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    yesterdayyy all my trouble seemmed so far away. Now it looks as though there here to stay. Oh I believe in yesterday
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    #442  
    Quote Originally Posted by geeksquadkid View Post
    yesterdayyy all my trouble seemmed so far away. Now it looks as though there here to stay. Oh I believe in yesterday
    why, she, had to go I don't know
    she wouldn't say



    bwahahahahahaha, it's still wednesday in the west coast. There's still hope for a wednesday release!
  3. #443  
    Quote Originally Posted by thrshr01 View Post
    why, she, had to go I don't know
    she wouldn't say



    bwahahahahahaha, it's still wednesday in the west coast. There's still hope for a wednesday release!
    Yes! Pray, for we might be lucky!
  4. #444  
    sadly us in central time have hit thursday. im pretty sure im heading to bed (as i say this i know i will be checking every 5 mins)

    good night all. hopefully it will be out in the morning, then after school i can install it...and then show it off at work tomorrow night (several of my friends have pres...and arent all that tech savvy...i actually have installed preware for all of them. they couldnt handle the novacom install). my friend with a droid (who returned his pre after a week) will be eating his android loving heart out.
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    #445  
    10:45pm here in SoCal


    I still have time
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    #446  
    Yep Im in AZ and im turning it in for the night. hopefully something tomorrow.
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    it's 12:47 in davenport iowa night folks thanks to the devs for all the work they are constantly doing you guys kick **** good night
    Quote Originally Posted by jwinn35 View Post
    Yep Im in AZ and im turning it in for the night. hopefully something tomorrow.
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    #448  
    Quote Originally Posted by 90awdsm View Post
    10:45pm here in SoCal


    I still have time
    Hey, an AWD brother (or sister) in the IE with a pre.

    EVO X here
  9. #449  
    everyone thats missing out its finally posted!!!!

    (edit) because some of the first post contained some errors here is the updated post:

    Quote Originally Posted by caj2008 View Post
    Optimized WebOS 1.4 Kernel Video/WOSQI 720Mhz/800 MHz Easy Install for Pre phones.
    ________________________________________
    This is a video guide to the optimized 800 MHz kernel of OS1.4

    You Tube Link 1 :

    You Tube Link 2-autoplay :

    MP4 Format: http://www.mediafire.com/?wkgdeexznrj

    WMV Format: http://www.mediafire.com/?m1wyzjlzzim

    We will release the OS1.4 optimized kernel (720 and 800 MHz) to the public with the explicit that you must follow the below instructions precisely.

    This is a collaborative effort between unixpsycho (Marco) and caj2008 (Jeff). Don't troll on us as we know what were doing because our Pre's are fricking fast (instructions as easy as 12Pre).

    For all information regarding our "safe" OS Independent 550 and 600 MHz patches (ipk installer coming soon):

    QuickInstall 600 MHz (or 550 MHz)-Simple Patch:http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ple-patch.html
    .................................................................................................... ......................................

    For previous information regarding our "safe" OS Dependent 720 and 800 MHz patches for OS1.3.5.1:

    http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...1-3-5-1-a.html
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    I. Introduction: There are two new kernel scripts available to the public (OS1.4 only)

    800MHzOS14.sh-runs boot and all programs OS at 800 MHz
    Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?wmmuhwzmwz1

    720MHzOS14.sh-runs boot at 800MHz and runs all OS programs at 720 MHz

    Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?zyfmjcmognz

    Install of 720 or 800 MHz Kernel for OS1.4 WebOS Version of Palm Pre

    Disclaimer: This doesnt work on Pixi-dont even try please. Ose only on Pre brands. These are newer optimized kernels for OS1.4 use only. Do not use on any other OS version or you may may frakk your Pre. You must read and abide to all the below guidelines. This may shorten the lifetime of your cpu so be forwarned and to due so will be at your own risk. Our initial data shows good safety, and no significantly higher battery drain or cpu temperature as a result of use of this kernel (data still being collected)

    Please Note: We haven't had any "Pre freezing or bricking issues" but I do have a solution if it is a software related issue-hopefully you'll follow this tested protocol (see my below thread):


    http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...008-rules.html

    Safety Rules
    1) Install this after the Operating System (OS1.4 only) has been installed and running 1 day.

    2) If you need to update to new OS, uninstall patch before update but don't use this kernel on new OS (it may frakk your Pre)

    3) Do not install if Pre feels hot (>45C), make sure it is cooled down first before proceeding


    Warning: If you have more than 1.0Gb of 3D games downloaded by the Palm app installer upon any OS update (or reset), put phone in airplane mode once in a while to cool it down (15 min cool/1 Gb installed). The continual download process imposed by Palm can potentially fry your phone at any frequency (depends whether you monitor temp or not). Note also that Mobile Hot Spot and other tether operations can warm up your phone so be careful when used in combination with other prolonged cpu intensive programs (give them a break once in a while, until below <35C). Use the temp monitor function in menu of the battery monitor app (preware, of course. Unless the app is dependent on the web and constantly using data (i.e. causing radio activity), leaving it open has no real impact on battery. The cpu's not spending any cycles running the app's code if it's blocked waiting for someone to interact with it, and memory chips have no idea what is or isn't active data; they consume the same amount of power holding their bits whether those bits are allocated or not (some wording by ktessner).
    .................................................................................................... ........................................
    II. Correct Install Procedure: (Developer mode on and WOSQI properly installed)

    Please see tutorial install jpeg attachments at end of thread.

    1) Uninstall the existing cpu patch the same way you installed it (options: commandline or WOSQI script). For example if you have the 600 MHz LunaSysMgr patch (Luna600Patch or the alternatively named 600MHz_OSIndependentpatch) installed via WOSQI, for the latter named version, you would first uninstall via the below procedure (visa versa for the 550 named patch version). To enable the patch, a Luna restart is required.

    ***The Kernel Patches are different than the LunaSysMgr Patch in that Power off/on is required after uninstall or install procedure and that using a LunaSysMgr restart will not enable the kernel.***


    Example 1 if WOSQI Script was used:
    under Tools - Linux Command Line
    sh /var/home/root/luna600patch.sh uninstall
    Luna Restart or alternatively Power Pre off and on (both will work)


    Example 2. if WOSQI Script was used:
    under Tools - Linux Command Line
    sh /var/home/root/600MHz_OSIndependentpatch.sh uninstall
    Luna Restart or alternatively Power Pre off and on (both will work)


    Example 3. if WOSQI Script was used:
    under Tools - Linux Command Line
    sh /var/home/root/800MHzOS1351.sh uninstall (uninstalls 800 MHz kernel)
    ***You must Power Pre off and on***


    This will bring you back to 500 MHz!

    2) Check Speed (3 ways to do so, I prefer the BogoMIPS Method):
    under Tools - Linux Command Line
    cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state
    -should see 500000 increase as a function of time


    cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
    -should see 500 MHz

    cat /proc/cpuinfo
    -should see appropriate BogoMIPS in MHz (ie-498.07)


    3) Allow OS to run for at least 4 hours to equilibrate but make sure Pre is not hot (>45C) before proceeding with Procedure 2 (steps 4-13)

    720 MHz or 800 MHz OS1.4 Protocol:Install file via WOSQI script only please

    Since we have newbies in the group, you must install either 720 or 800 MHz script one at a time (sorry to have to mention this)

    4) To use either "kernel script patch" you have to be in Developer Mode and must use WOSQI (properly installed).

    5) Need to download file from my website and download to your desktop:

    720MHzOS14 or 800MHzOS14 to desktop (or chosen folder)

    Warning: You can only install one cpu patch at a time (believe I have been asked)


    6) Use WebOS Quick Install Tools - Send File /var/home/root

    7) Use WOSQI Tools - In Linux Command Line, write
    sh /var/home/root/720MHzOS14.sh install (installs 720 kernel)

    or alternatively write

    sh /var/home/root/800MHzOS14.sh install (installs 800 kernel)


    you will observe the following in either case

    tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
    crypto/ecb.ko
    etc.
    etc.
    Please reboot


    10) Power off/on Pre (essential hardware reset step)

    11) Check the speed (ie-for the 800 MHz patch cpuinfo command you should observe the following (OS at 800 MHz):


    root@palm-webos-device: cat /proc/cpuinfo
    Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)
    BogoMIPS : 796.91
    Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp
    etc.
    etc.
    etc.1
    root@palm-webos-device


    12) Please let us know about your experience on my thread and
    participate in the testing.
    For the latter, you will pick a series of tests and using battery monitor app vailable from Preware (note temp calculator is in menu) to compare 500 MHz (before kernel) to the 720 MHz and 800 MHz kernel just like the alpha testers did. The tests need to be done under nearly identical conditions. Try to duplicate experiments that seem out of the ordinary and note that some of the tests depend on the speed of your internet connection as well (variability). The excel sheet is provided in the below link:

    Data Report Sheet Download:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?d1mknmzmtoz

    13) Uninstall procedure:
    Use WOSQI Tools - In Linux Command Line, write

    sh /var/home/root/720MHzOS14.sh uninstall (720 MHz kernel)

    Or alternatively write

    sh /var/home/root/800MHzOS14.sh uninstall (800 MHz kernel)
    .................................................................................................... ...................................
    III. Palm Pre CPU/BUS Performance Tests-500/600/720/800 MHz (new section): Two different kinds of benchmarks; Javascript performance and raw CPU bus throughput. Both measure and scale to the CPU clock speed. The Javascript test is the same tests used in iPhone, Android, and Pre comparisons on the Internet. The SunSpider test is a JavaScript benchmark. This benchmark tests the core JavaScript language only, not the DOM or other browser APIs. It is designed to compare different versions of the same browser, and different browsers to each other.

    These results (not all shown) show that the Phone is indeed running fasterand past 800 Mhz the phone cant feed IO any faster to the CPU.

    SunSpider test (http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspide...nspider.html):
    (3 tests each and took median result. lower is better)

    500 static (OS1.3.5.1 w/ optimized kernel): 23695.6ms

    600 scalable OS1.3.5.1 (w/ optimized kernel): 20139.4ms

    600 static (OS1.3.5.1 w/ optimized kernel): 20062.6ms

    600 static (OS1.3.5.1non-optimized kernel): 20228.4ms

    *720 static (OS1.3.5.1 non-optimized kernel): 16680.2ms*

    *720 static (OS1.4.0 non-optimized kernel): 15050.4ms*

    **800 static (OS1.3.5.1 w/ optimized kernel): 14936.6ms**

    **800 static (OS1.4.0 w/ optimized kernel): 13607.2ms**

    Note: Bus (I/O) speeds were the same (as expected). The SunSpider tests are faster due to the greatly enhanced javascript engine of OS1.4 vs. 1.3.5.1.

    Conclusion: kernel in OS1.4 (better javascript engine) is more effective than OS1.3.5.1

    Raw kernel CPU throughput Test:
    (3 tests each and took median result. lower is better)

    800 (Same on OS 1.3.5.1 and 1.40 Versions):
    root@palm-webos-device:/# time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null count=10000000
    10000000+0 records in
    10000000+0 records out
    real 0m 38.14s
    user 0m 4.99s
    sys 0m 32.82s

    720 (Same on OS 1.3.5.1 and 1.40 Versions):
    root@palm-webos-device:/# time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null count=10000000
    10000000+0 records in
    10000000+0 records out
    real 0m 45.69s
    user 0m 5.76s
    sys 0m 38.60s

    600 (Same on OS 1.3.5.1 and 1.40 Versions):
    root@palm-webos-device:/# time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null count=10000000
    10000000+0 records in
    10000000+0 records out
    real 0m 53.10s
    user 0m 7.63s
    sys 0m 44.54s

    500 (Palm Standard Frequency Same on OS 1.3.5.1 and 1.40 Versions):
    root@palm-webos-device:/# time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null count=10000000
    10000000+0 records in
    10000000+0 records out
    real 1m 3.37s
    user 0m 9.53s
    sys 0m 52.85s
    .................................................................................................... ...................................
    We would like to thank: Shadow360, SqyArc, Shadavis08, Blu8503, Jason Robitaille and RWhitby for aid in achievement of our goal (to make Pre more exciting)

    If you like this work, please donate below:



    We would appreciate it that you input the thanks button here!!
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  10. #450  
    WOOT!
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    #451  
    Quote Originally Posted by thrshr01 View Post
    Hey, an AWD brother (or sister) in the IE with a pre.

    EVO X here
    06 WW IX RS here aswell


    you on SoCalEvo.net?


    Evo's and Pre FTW!
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    #452  
    Thank you for all your hard work everyone! Just finished installing it, it's really nice. Google maps opens in 6 secs flat now...on the first open!
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    #453  
    Up and running. This is the good thing about feeding 6 week old twins at 3:40am I get the late night changes first
  14. #454  
    this is amazing.. The browser opens within a second. Well not on the first open,but I open it like 40 times a day, so I'm willing to let one 2 second one slide..
  15. #455  
    Very nice patch.. once things got going it was very fast. I did run into TMC error once, after loading 8 or so webpages. I installed JSTOP and TMC was gone. Well worth waiting, excellent job by dev. I enjoy opening cards and throwing them away now. Much less lag.
  16.    #456  
    nice !!!!
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    http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/...octor_Versions
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    Quote Originally Posted by geeksquadkid View Post
    yesterdayyy all my trouble seemmed so far away. Now it looks as though there here to stay. Oh I believe in yesterday
    Roth can believe all he wants but he will probably miss a few games this year and he'll be lucky if the Steelers don't just cut him. He's a major slime bucket as a person and certainly doesn't fit the normal Steelers criteria as far as being someone you want to represent your franchise. I am not a Steeler's fan and I never will be but this guy is beyond bad...
    If "If's" and "But's" were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas!


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    #458  
    Have installed the 720 patch and opened 15 apps with no issuse, however there doesnt seem to be that much difference from a standard phone, could just be me so was just wondering do I have to uninstall the 720 patch before installing the 800 one.

    Thanks guys and great work
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonR66 View Post
    Have installed the 720 patch and opened 15 apps with no issuse, however there doesnt seem to be that much difference from a standard phone, could just be me so was just wondering do I have to uninstall the 720 patch before installing the 800 one.

    Thanks guys and great work
    well, i know you read the instructions at least a little bit since you claim to have installed the 720. and if that's true, then why would you ask if you have to remove the 720 before installing the 800?
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    Because I am not the most technically savvy person and am just being cautious which is surely why these forums exist. The instructions say install one at a time which to me means I can have both installed but install one then the other.

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