Additional Filetype Support Testing (flac, ogg, gsmwav)

Prenosicator · 08:40 PM

Greetings. I'm reaching out to the community for feelings on various topics.

I'm looking for 2 things. Firstly, I need a few individuals who use a voicemail-to-email system with gsmwav encoding. If your voicemails are forwarded to your email in .wav format, and you CAN'T play them on your webos device, then you're it. I have somewhat of a proof of concept working and I need a few more volunteers with various systems to test it raw, and then after packaging. I also need people who regularly listen to flac and ogg and have somewhat of a... library, to be willing to assist in testing support for these filetypes. If you can fulfill any of these, please contact me in #webos-internals on freenode IRC.

Secondly, I need some suggestions from the community on general filetype support concerns. What is most wanted? I'm looking for suggestions in the way of audio, video, and streaming; containers, formats, and encoders.

Thanks!

UPDATE: Ok, gsmwav packaged released in webos-internals feed, check preware for install. Thank you everyone for their comments and suggestions. Will keep in touch.

Jason Robitaille · 02/12/2010, 05:08 PM

One filetype missing from the current webos that is affecting a lot of my old videos is lack of avi support

Prenosicator · 02/12/2010, 09:13 PM

Consider it next on my list (now that ogg is working, mostly).

Avenger069 · 02/12/2010, 10:27 PM

I have this problem. Where I work we use Cisco Unity and our voicemails are delivered to our Exchange mailbox as .wav files using the GSM6.10 compression codec. When I had a Treo/Centro I had to use mVoice to listen to them. They won't play at all on the Pre.

natureboy · 02/22/2010, 08:12 AM

I'd like to suggest .wma and .asx formats (or containers, I'm not sure which is which). An awful lot of radio stations (and sirius/xm) stream in this format. My old winmo treo played these like a champ and I really miss them.

lopezpm · 09:35 AM

not sure what magic jack uses but I can't listen to the .wav sent to my email.

The_lane · 02/22/2010, 09:03 AM

.avi

gizmo21 · 09:21 AM

Codecs:
complete MPEG-4 (incl. Xvid, DivX 3/4/5/6, 3ivx und MS MPEG-4) like ffdshow

AC3 (with downmix to 2-Channel)

Container:
DivX Media Format (.divx)
Matroska (.mkv, .mka)
Ogg

ookees · 02/22/2010, 09:19 AM

I would love to be able to play my google voice voicemails when i touch the play message link in an email when sent to me. I know i can use the visual voicemail app, but that app isnt the best. I thought maybe this patch would fix that but I guess google voicemail uses another codec.

loftwyr · 02/22/2010, 09:31 AM

avi and matroska container formats and xvid are the two that would make the video and audio functions rock.

But if you've got extra time, just hook ffmpeg into the system

angiest · 02/22/2010, 09:34 AM

So when might we have access to, for instance, ogg?

Would love to go back to using vorbis on Ampache instead of mp3.

manueljaime · 02/22/2010, 09:38 AM

Thanks for your work! Looking forward to ogg, would love to have Theora video as well.

upperking · 02/22/2010, 09:40 AM

Will this play the voice messages from the google voice website?

upperking · 02/22/2010, 09:48 AM

Oh it does work!
you have to use the older version "link on the bottom of the screen"
awsome!!!
or
http://www.google.com/voice/m/

sweet now i dont need a google voice app to play my voice mails

InIlIoN · 02/22/2010, 10:03 AM

FLAC listener and xvid watcher. if you need a tester, PM me!

upperking · 02/22/2010, 10:18 AM

I have a subscription to a radio show that puts thier streams up on the site in wave,mp3 and realplayer format but when i click the links I get

No handler for
file://media/internal/downloads/stream.cgi

is that a server side problem?
Palm webos is the only os I get these kinda problems from when trying to stream my paid subscrition streams.

ookees · 02/22/2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upperking

Oh it does work!
you have to use the older version "link on the bottom of the screen"
awsome!!!
or
http://www.google.com/voice/m/

sweet now i dont need a google voice app to play my voice mails

Still not working for me and I did a normal restart. I just get "There was an error playing the file."

I will try another restart.

ookees · 02/22/2010, 11:34 AM

nope still doesnt work, weird.

vandelay · 03/04/2010, 06:06 PM

Hows the ogg plugin coming along? I have a library of 1900 songs on my pre, currently all in mp3, but want to delete them all and re-transfer them using ogg since the current quality of the mp3 files allows them to take up ~6GB, while the equivalent sounding ogg files, by my hearing tests anyways, take up ~5.4GB. I can't wait to free up those 600mb, Thanks!

Prenosicator · 03/05/2010, 09:06 AM

ogg is working well, the biggest problem is tagging. I doubt you want a 1900 song library all loaded under "other artists"

vorbis comments _are_ natively read in gst tho, so I'm looking at a way to use a small fileindexer replacement service to export those entries to a sqllite database mimicing the current format. I'm getting more involved in core webos-internals activities these days and don't have too much time for this, but it is definitely being worked on, by others also.

02/12/2010, 04:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Prenosicator Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 127 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 5 Thanked 430 Times in 44 Posts	Additional Filetype Support Testing (flac, ogg, gsmwav) Greetings. I'm reaching out to the community for feelings on various topics. I'm looking for 2 things. Firstly, I need a few individuals who use a voicemail-to-email system with gsmwav encoding. If your voicemails are forwarded to your email in .wav format, and you CAN'T play them on your webos device, then you're it. I have somewhat of a proof of concept working and I need a few more volunteers with various systems to test it raw, and then after packaging. I also need people who regularly listen to flac and ogg and have somewhat of a... library, to be willing to assist in testing support for these filetypes. If you can fulfill any of these, please contact me in #webos-internals on freenode IRC. Secondly, I need some suggestions from the community on general filetype support concerns. What is most wanted? I'm looking for suggestions in the way of audio, video, and streaming; containers, formats, and encoders. Thanks! UPDATE: Ok, gsmwav packaged released in webos-internals feed, check preware for install. Thank you everyone for their comments and suggestions. Will keep in touch. __________________ Bringing you the first video recorder (Precorder), the first SDL application/game (DOOM), the first "make my magicjack/corporate voicemail play on my webos phone thingy" (gsm codec package), and now, webos's first opensource media recorder (voice and stream!) -> zcorder Last edited by Prenosicator; 02/22/2010 at 08:40 PM.
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02/12/2010, 05:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jason Robitaille Legend Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Posts: 3,883 Likes Received: 496 Thanks: 801 Thanked 12,956 Times in 1,495 Posts	One filetype missing from the current webos that is affecting a lot of my old videos is lack of avi support __________________ If you've liked my software, please consider to towards future development. Developer of many apps such as: WebOS Quick Install, WebOS Theme Builder, Ipk Packager, Unified Diff Creator, Internalz Pro, ComicShelf HD, LED Torch, over 70 patches and more. @JayCanuck @CanuckCoding Facebook
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02/12/2010, 09:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Prenosicator Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 127 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 5 Thanked 430 Times in 44 Posts	Consider it next on my list (now that ogg is working, mostly). __________________ Bringing you the first video recorder (Precorder), the first SDL application/game (DOOM), the first "make my magicjack/corporate voicemail play on my webos phone thingy" (gsm codec package), and now, webos's first opensource media recorder (voice and stream!) -> zcorder
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02/12/2010, 10:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Avenger069 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 42 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	I have this problem. Where I work we use Cisco Unity and our voicemails are delivered to our Exchange mailbox as .wav files using the GSM6.10 compression codec. When I had a Treo/Centro I had to use mVoice to listen to them. They won't play at all on the Pre.
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02/22/2010, 08:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
natureboy Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 19 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I'd like to suggest .wma and .asx formats (or containers, I'm not sure which is which). An awful lot of radio stations (and sirius/xm) stream in this format. My old winmo treo played these like a champ and I really miss them.
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02/22/2010, 08:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
lopezpm Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Garden City, MI Posts: 741 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 24 Thanked 62 Times in 50 Posts	not sure what magic jack uses but I can't listen to the .wav sent to my email. Last edited by lopezpm; 02/22/2010 at 09:35 AM.
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02/22/2010, 09:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
gizmo21 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 951 Likes Received: 33 Thanks: 128 Thanked 131 Times in 104 Posts	Codecs: complete MPEG-4 (incl. Xvid, DivX 3/4/5/6, 3ivx und MS MPEG-4) like ffdshow AC3 (with downmix to 2-Channel) Container: DivX Media Format (.divx) Matroska (.mkv, .mka) Ogg __________________ Palm Pre 3 webOS 2.2.4 3175 EU UMTS Palm Pre 2 webOS 2.2.4 160 EU UMTS Palm Pre - webOS 1.4.5 EU UMTS Found a bug or miss a feature in webOS, just use this form: ~~Feedback & Feature Requests \| Palm USA~~ -- Oops, sorry HP does not offer a Feedback form anymore send feature request to CEO Last edited by gizmo21; 02/22/2010 at 09:21 AM.
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02/22/2010, 09:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
ookees Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 60 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I would love to be able to play my google voice voicemails when i touch the play message link in an email when sent to me. I know i can use the visual voicemail app, but that app isnt the best. I thought maybe this patch would fix that but I guess google voicemail uses another codec.
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02/22/2010, 09:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
loftwyr Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 39 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	avi and matroska container formats and xvid are the two that would make the video and audio functions rock. But if you've got extra time, just hook ffmpeg into the system __________________ PalmPilot Pro --> Palm III --> Palm V --> Palm 505 --> Treo 700p --> Palm Pre
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02/22/2010, 09:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
angiest Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 933 Likes Received: 27 Thanks: 152 Thanked 88 Times in 70 Posts	So when might we have access to, for instance, ogg? Would love to go back to using vorbis on Ampache instead of mp3.
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02/22/2010, 09:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
manueljaime Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bembibre, Spain Posts: 48 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for your work! Looking forward to ogg, would love to have Theora video as well.
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02/22/2010, 09:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
upperking Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 99 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Will this play the voice messages from the google voice website? __________________ Help a guy thats down and out on his luck..
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02/22/2010, 09:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
upperking Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 99 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Oh it does work! you have to use the older version "link on the bottom of the screen" awsome!!! or http://www.google.com/voice/m/ sweet now i dont need a google voice app to play my voice mails __________________ Help a guy thats down and out on his luck..
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02/22/2010, 10:03 AM	#15 (permalink)
InIlIoN Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 158 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 23 Thanked 28 Times in 13 Posts	FLAC listener and xvid watcher. if you need a tester, PM me! __________________
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02/22/2010, 10:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
upperking Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 99 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	I have a subscription to a radio show that puts thier streams up on the site in wave,mp3 and realplayer format but when i click the links I get No handler for file://media/internal/downloads/stream.cgi is that a server side problem? Palm webos is the only os I get these kinda problems from when trying to stream my paid subscrition streams. __________________ Help a guy thats down and out on his luck..
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02/22/2010, 11:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
ookees Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 60 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	nope still doesnt work, weird.
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03/04/2010, 06:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
vandelay Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 55 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 27 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	Hows the ogg plugin coming along? I have a library of 1900 songs on my pre, currently all in mp3, but want to delete them all and re-transfer them using ogg since the current quality of the mp3 files allows them to take up ~6GB, while the equivalent sounding ogg files, by my hearing tests anyways, take up ~5.4GB. I can't wait to free up those 600mb, Thanks!
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03/05/2010, 09:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
Prenosicator Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 127 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 5 Thanked 430 Times in 44 Posts	ogg is working well, the biggest problem is tagging. I doubt you want a 1900 song library all loaded under "other artists" vorbis comments _are_ natively read in gst tho, so I'm looking at a way to use a small fileindexer replacement service to export those entries to a sqllite database mimicing the current format. I'm getting more involved in core webos-internals activities these days and don't have too much time for this, but it is definitely being worked on, by others also. __________________ Bringing you the first video recorder (Precorder), the first SDL application/game (DOOM), the first "make my magicjack/corporate voicemail play on my webos phone thingy" (gsm codec package), and now, webos's first opensource media recorder (voice and stream!) -> zcorder
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