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  1.    #1  
    Hi Everyone,

    I can reliably crash my pre by doing the following:

    1. open terminal
    2. swipe up to close terminal
    3. open terminal
    4. swipe up to close terminal


    Upon the second swipe, the card never makes it off the screen, and my pre restarts. I discovered this while updating precorder to work with 1.3.5 ota.

    My info
    WebOS 1.3.5
    Numerous patches, including smartreflex500

    I saw another user mentioning this, but I can not find a thread related to this. The actions that this user was performing were in terminal and I do not believe the crash is related to smartreflex, but that's just my gut instinct.
    http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ml#post2113276

    Please let me know if there is any more information you require.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gearysr View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    I can reliably crash my pre by doing the following:

    1. open terminal
    2. swipe up to close terminal
    3. open terminal
    4. swipe up to close terminal


    Upon the second swipe, the card never makes it off the screen, and my pre restarts. I discovered this while updating precorder to work with 1.3.5 ota.

    My info
    WebOS 1.3.5
    Numerous patches, including smartreflex500

    I saw another user mentioning this, but I can not find a thread related to this. The actions that this user was performing were in terminal and I do not believe the crash is related to smartreflex, but that's just my gut instinct.
    http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ml#post2113276

    Please let me know if there is any more information you require.
    I just updated Precorder as well with the bootstrap script in Terminal and after it was completed I pulled up the menu and my phone froze and restarted. I did have Terminal open once and then closed it and opened it up a second time as you described. I do not have the SmartReflex patch installed, so I know that is not the issue.

    Patches Installed: Character Count, Just Charge By Default, Match State to Area Code, and Unthrottle Download manager

    Update: Forgot to mention I have webOS v1.3.5
  3.    #3  
    I just played with the menu and it crashed my pre too. Maybe the terninal is just a little unstable?
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    I found that if you close the terminal SLOWLY, it won't dump Luna (most of the time...). Don't "flick" it closed like we usually do. "Push" it off the screen slowly. But yes, it's still a bug that needs to be looked at. The thing hasn't been updated since August after all.
  5. #5  
    I noticed this hasn't been updated in quite some time. Has it been abandoned? I was hoping this would become an "official" app. I've been dying to SSH, but don't want to hack up my Pre.
  6. #6  
    mine crashes when closing consistently also
    Palm prē-ist.
  7. #7  
    Quote Originally Posted by insane42
    I've been dying to SSH, but don't want to hack up my Pre.
    Nah, you won't kill it. I've been doing since the day after I got the thing a few months ago. I found a repo FULL of near any Linux (non-X) app and lib you could need. Check this out:

    Create this file:

    Code:
    /media/cryptofs/apps/etc/ipkg/linux-arm.conf
    In it put this:

    Code:
    src/gz Linux-Arm http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/stable
    Fire up Preware (and update your package sources if you don't have it do it at open), and bingo! 1400+ Linux apps ready and waiting for you to install.

    Now, honestly, it's MUCH easier to do at the command line (since you 'll see in a sec you'll need to go back there anyway so...)

    Code:
    # ipkg -o/media/cryptofs/apps install openssh
    (chug chug chug)

    Now you can just ssh to whatever box you want to. Here's the catch:

    It installs a daemon that runs at boot time (and re-spawns whenever you open the terminal again). If it's OK to you to have an SSH server running on your Pre, you can stop reading here and do a bit of a Jig (and after catching your breath, had you got caught up in the moment) sit back down happy you can SSH into any *NIX box on this planet.

    If you don't want an SSH server running on your Pre, read on.

    In a few location in your Pre's OS are places for things to start at boot time.

    Code:
    /etc/event.d/*
    /etc/profile.d/*
    There are a couple of them in your Pre:

    Code:
    / # find -iname '*profile.d*'
    ./etc/profile.d
    ./var/etc/profile.d
    ./media/cryptofs/apps/etc/profile.d
    and:

    Code:
    / # find -iname '*event.d*'
    ./etc/event.d
    ./var/etc/event.d
    ./media/cryptofs/apps/etc/event.d
    Check this bit out:

    Code:
    / # ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps files mobi.optware.openssh
    Package mobi.optware.openssh (5.3.1-3) is installed on root and has the following files:
    /media/cryptofs/apps/etc/profile.d/mobi.optware.openssh
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/etc/openssh/sshd_config
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/openssh-ssh
    /media/cryptofs/apps/etc/event.d/mobi.optware.openssh
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/etc/openssh/ssh_config
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/ssh-keyscan
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/ssh-agent
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/openssh-scp
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/slogin
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/etc/openssh/moduli
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/ssh-add
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/ssh-keygen
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/sbin/sshd
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/bin/sftp
    /media/cryptofs/apps/opt/libexec/ssh-keysign
    Notice the ones in "event.d" and "profile.d"? Ditch them! You can simply move them out of those directories if you want to hang on to them should you change your mind in the future, of if you have decided that until the end of time you never want to run an SSH server on your Pre, you can just delete them!


    Hmmm...

    I think I've ran on long enough. I've probably thoroughly confused you by now anyway. I've been using Linux for 11 or so years now on my personal machines so this is all common place and makes sense to me, so... :-)


    M.


    P.S.
    Oh, yea. If you do this with the Pre's Terminal (and not use novacom to have your other 8 fingers doing something) remember to try closing the terminal SLOWLY! Don't flick it. Again, I've found that it closes most often without crashing Luna if you gently push it off teh screen rather than flick it!


    Ummm... OK I think this time I'm done.
  8. #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by Xanadu73 View Post
    Nah, you won't kill it. I've been doing since the day after I got the thing a few months ago. I found a repo FULL of near any Linux (non-X) app and lib you could need. Check this out:

    Create this file:

    Code:
    /media/cryptofs/apps/etc/ipkg/linux-arm.conf
    In it put this:

    Code:
    src/gz Linux-Arm http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/stable
    Fire up Preware (and update your package sources if you don't have it do it at open), and bingo! 1400+ Linux apps ready and waiting for you to install.
    Instead of all that, just go into Preware and install the Optware Advanced Linux Command Line Installer.

    All the stuff you did has already been packaged up in Preware. We're also packaging some of the more popular Optware packages into Preware separately too (including OpenSSH).

    -- Rod
    WebOS Internals and Preware Founder and Developer
    You may wish to donate by Paypal to donations @ webos-internals.org if you find our work useful.
    All donations go back into development.
    www.webos-internals.org twitter.com/webosinternals facebook.com/webosinternals
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby
    Instead of all that, just go into Preware and install the Optware Advanced Linux Command Line Installer.

    All the stuff you did has already been packaged up in Preware. We're also packaging some of the more popular Optware packages into Preware separately too (including OpenSSH).

    Oh yea? Hmmm... perhaps I need to work less with my fingers and more with my eyes...

    Thanks for the head's up, man!

    Is there an easier way to *not* install the server portion of the/your SSH package then? I don't want the server portion running on my Pre when the only functionality I installed it for was to get out, not let people in.

    Thanx!

    M.
  10. #10  
    Quote Originally Posted by Xanadu73 View Post
    Oh yea? Hmmm... perhaps I need to work less with my fingers and more with my eyes...

    Thanks for the head's up, man!

    Is there an easier way to *not* install the server portion of the/your SSH package then? I don't want the server portion running on my Pre when the only functionality I installed it for was to get out, not let people in.

    Thanx!

    M.
    Remove the mobi.optware.openssh script from /etc/event.d and the server won't start.

    -- Rod
    WebOS Internals and Preware Founder and Developer
    You may wish to donate by Paypal to donations @ webos-internals.org if you find our work useful.
    All donations go back into development.
    www.webos-internals.org twitter.com/webosinternals facebook.com/webosinternals
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    Yes, I understand that. I typed it out in my post above. I was just asking in case there was something else my eyes may have missed as well.

    Again, thanks man!


    M.
  12. #12  
    So, any solution to the terminal crashing yet?
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    bump!
  14. #14  
    Any fix for this yet?
  15. #15  
    For real.

    WOOSH WOOSH

    Is this thing on?!?
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    bump
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    Bump also, I've been getting this bug since the update and it sometimes happen when I run a simple python script.
  18. #18  
    I'd really appreciate a fix for this, I can't use terminal without my Pre rebooting (even if I slowly push the card off the screen)
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    You're not alone. The "slowly pushing off" thing was before I realized that it's not EVERYTIME closing Terminal dumps Luna...

    M.
  20. #20  
    A method that hasn't been mentioned: Minimize the Terminal app (from full screen view either press the center button or swipe up), then wait 3-4 seconds, and you can swipe up as fast as you like to close it. Usually what I do is finish what I'm doing in Terminal, minimize, leave it open, go do something else in some other app, then come back to it and close it a few seconds/minutes later. Never had a terminal crash again after I started doing it that way.
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