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    #21  
    thanks, but i just posted that link two posts up...
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    #22  
    there slightly different but very similar....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ws6kid View Post
    thanks, but i just posted that link two posts up...
    Precisely, I was making it a clickable link because you couldn't..
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    Has anybody made an progress on compiling a wireless driver with monitor mode support for the pre?
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    Ok I looked at the patch that was discussed and compared it to the wifi drivers included in the palm source code rep. It seems the patch is already included into the source code provided by palm.
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    I don't suppose any of you dudes have figured this out?
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    bumping for justice
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    #28  
    i like the sound of where this thread is going
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    DIY:

    palm-webos-device / # iwlist eth0 scan
    eth0 Scan completed :
    Cell 01 - Address: 00:13:92:02:11:39
    ESSID:"ja67294"
    Mode:Managed
    Frequency:2.412 GHz
    Quality:0/100 Signal level=-73 dBm Noise level=-90 dBm
    Encryption keyn
    Bit Rates:54 Mb/s
    Cell 02 - Address: 34:EF:44:AD:65:79
    ESSID:"Manuel" [2]
    Mode:Managed
    Frequency:2.422 GHz
    Quality:0/100 Signal level=-71 dBm Noise level=-90 dBm
    Encryption keyn
    Bit Rates:54 Mb/s
    IE: WPA Version 1
    Group Cipher : TKIP
    Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
    Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
    Cell 03 - Address: 00:23:69:5D:B4:AA
    ESSID:"fop" [3]
    Mode:Managed
    Frequency:2.437 GHz
    Quality:0/100 Signal level=-56 dBm Noise level=-90 dBm
    Encryption keyn
    Bit Rates:48 Mb/s
    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
    Group Cipher : TKIP
    Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
    Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
    IE: WPA Version 1
    Group Cipher : TKIP
    Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
    Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
    Extra:

    palm-webos-device / #

    GPS can also be hit from sh, see threads passim.

    Cheers, Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtygreek View Post
    I don't suppose any of you dudes have figured this out?
    I'm going to be kind and take my time to explain reality to you. The Marvell 8686 like all Marvell products is a cheap piece of ****. What you want is not possible.

    MAC address resolution can be achieved at either of two levels, on the firmware of the device or the processor. The first is known as HardMAC (aka FullMAC) and the second is known as SoftMAC. Marvell creates HardMAC devices. That means that there is no driver that will put the card into monitor mode. The only way to put the card into monitor mode is to actually rewrite the firmware of the device. That's a difficult task enough but it's made nearly impossible because Marvell uses closed design specs.

    But lets says you hacked into Marvell website, stole their design specs, and reversed engineered the firmware. It still wouldn't work because of the cheap *** hardware. The latency is so bad that once you put the device into monitor mode it would just crap right out again.

    The technical reason why Marvell products use HardMAC is because they are cheap pieces of **** and cannot support SoftMAC as a matter of engineering design. Don't fight physics; you lose. Get a wifi device that uses better hardware and a more robust design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James12 View Post
    I'm going to be kind and take my time to explain reality to you. The Marvell 8686 like all Marvell products is a cheap piece of ****. What you want is not possible.

    MAC address resolution can be achieved at either of two levels, on the firmware of the device or the processor. The first is known as HardMAC (aka FullMAC) and the second is known as SoftMAC. Marvell creates HardMAC devices. That means that there is no driver that will put the card into monitor mode. The only way to put the card into monitor mode is to actually rewrite the firmware of the device. That's a difficult task enough but it's made nearly impossible because Marvell uses closed design specs.

    But lets says you hacked into Marvell website, stole their design specs, and reversed engineered the firmware. It still wouldn't work because of the cheap *** hardware. The latency is so bad that once you put the device into monitor mode it would just crap right out again.

    The technical reason why Marvell products use HardMAC is because they are cheap pieces of **** and cannot support SoftMAC as a matter of engineering design. Don't fight physics; you lose. Get a wifi device that uses better hardware and a more robust design.
    I get marvell hardware is a POS, but the W8686B22 hardware has already been put into monitor mode. Now I know this is an undertaking and very, very difficult. But just because something is improbable/difficult doesn't make it impossible. Have some faith in the community. I think that right now we as the pre croud posess one of the greatest communities for devices. It hasn't been a year and look already where we are! In other words I look forward to quote your post when we get to monitor mode.
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    anyone made any progress yet???
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    I know I am killing an old thread but I came across this in trying to establish ad-hoc connectivity >:[
    I supposed one could compile from the source, I came across it and a data sheet in trying to figure out how to use the different private ioctls that are avaialble.

    they are available at en.pudn.com under " wifi-of-88w8686 "
    probably doesn't help though.
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    Any further progress on this? Even a basic 'stumbler' just showing broadcasting APs would be nice to have. Kismet with GPS, though, that would friggin' rock :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbromwich View Post
    DIY:

    palm-webos-device / # iwlist eth0 scan
    eth0 Scan completed :
    Cell 01 - Address: 00:13:92:02:11:39
    ESSID:"ja67294"
    Mode:Managed
    Frequency:2.412 GHz
    Quality:0/100 Signal level=-73 dBm Noise level=-90 dBm
    Encryption keyn
    Bit Rates:54 Mb/s
    Cell 02 - Address: 34:EF:44:AD:65:79
    ESSID:"Manuel" [2]
    Mode:Managed
    Frequency:2.422 GHz
    Quality:0/100 Signal level=-71 dBm Noise level=-90 dBm
    Encryption keyn
    Bit Rates:54 Mb/s
    IE: WPA Version 1
    Group Cipher : TKIP
    Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
    Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
    Cell 03 - Address: 00:23:69:5D:B4:AA
    ESSID:"fop" [3]
    Mode:Managed
    Frequency:2.437 GHz
    Quality:0/100 Signal level=-56 dBm Noise level=-90 dBm
    Encryption keyn
    Bit Rates:48 Mb/s
    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
    Group Cipher : TKIP
    Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
    Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
    IE: WPA Version 1
    Group Cipher : TKIP
    Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
    Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
    Extra:

    palm-webos-device / #

    GPS can also be hit from sh, see threads passim.

    Cheers, Steve
    Can you give me some examples how to use gps on terminal?
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