Setting up Novacom on Windows 7 - Easier Method

Jason Robitaille · 07/26/2009, 10:01 PM

EDIT: THIS INFO IS OBSOLETE. DO NOT FOLLOW THIS GUIDE

If you need to install Novacom drivers, use Universal Novacom Installer or WOSQI

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This is an alternate method from the WebOS-Internals one, on how to install Novacom on Windows 7. This one is for the average user who wants an easy install.

First off, you'll need to download the WebOSDoctor recovery rom (or if you're using the current WebOS Quick Install, you'll already have this file): Sprint WebOSDoctor 1.2.1 or Bell (Canada).
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Download and install Orca. It's a tool from Windows SDK to easily edit Microsoft Installer packages. It's a very quick and simple install.
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Go to where you downloaded the WebOSDoctor recovery rom and right click on it. Choose "Open with", then "Choose Default Program" and choose whatever archive manager you use (WinZip, WinRar, 7-Zip, etc.).
- If you don't have any archive manager, I recommend 7-Zip, it's free.
- If your archive manager isn't listed, hit the "Browse" button and navigate to find it.
- Make sure "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file" is not checked. (we want "Java(TM) Platform SE binary" to always be the default)
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Open up the resources folder. Scroll down through it till you find the 2 MSI files (NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and NovacomInstaller_x86.msi).
- For 32bit Windows 7, extract "NovacomInstaller_x86.msi"
- For 64bit Windows 7, extract "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi"
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Right click on the extracted MSI file. Click the "Edit with Orca"

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On the left "Tables" list click "InstallExecuteSequence" and on the main table, look for "installumdf.08B8BE2B_9174_49D1_84B0_40324FD7DE34" and delete it. Save and close.

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Run the msi. Everything should install properly

Credits: Based on work found at CodeUtopia

[Moderator's note:] Here are the current webOS 1.2.1 Sprint and Bell links (from cas_esq,
as of 11/7/09):

Sprint WebOSDoctor 1.2.1 or

Bell (Canada)

ret2961 · 07/26/2009, 11:58 PM

Did it all, installed properly, but I still get the ERROR; NO DEVICE FOUND...

Thanks!

dog44 · 07/27/2009, 12:24 AM

Can someone host the edited file, i did it myself but i think it can help some people, if anyone has a rapidshare i can send u guys the edited files.

Jason Robitaille · 07/27/2009, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ret2961

Did it all, installed properly, but I still get the ERROR; NO DEVICE FOUND...

Thanks!

I'll PM you about this to keep this thread clean of WebOS Quick Install issues

EDIT:
FYI, apparrently this method of Novacom installtion worked for a friend who couldn't get novacom installed on his 32bit vista computer

mike_103 · 07/27/2009, 03:36 AM

I was beginning to lose faith that I would ever be able to install Homebrew Apps. Thank you very much for finding a way.

derf.k · 07/27/2009, 10:40 AM

Win!

iluvtomesswithu · 07/27/2009, 11:26 AM

all it said was gathering info and closed installed???

sixshooterz · 07/27/2009, 12:01 PM

I wish this would've been available a week ago when I was trying to decipher other tutorials! Nice work!

Jason Robitaille · 07/27/2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvtomesswithu

all it said was gathering info and closed installed???

yep. That's all it needs to do. Novacom is not actually a full program, simply a background service, which is why there's not setup or anything.

kjb · 07/27/2009, 06:09 PM

You ROCK!! I thought I was crazy

, I couldn't get anything to work.

Easy-Peasy!
Keith

Have a Great Day!

Weeton · 07/28/2009, 05:21 AM

perfect. i installed virtual box before i tried this on x64 and everything seems to be running correctly.

healimonster · 07/28/2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Robitaille

[*]Run the msi. Everything should install properly

[/list]

Sorry for the stupid question...
Which file is the MSI again? The ones I just edited?

Imseth · 07/29/2009, 01:52 AM

On my vista and xp everything installed great and worked on the emulator only./ removing that line from the msi did it thank you so much your awsome./ i'll be sure to pass the tidbits along and give the credit where it's due...this rocks!!!!!!

MrDeeds · 07/29/2009, 02:28 AM

I'm not trying to knock your tut but how is this easier than the current method.

Quote:

Install
VirtualBox-3.0.2-49928-Win.exe
PalmSDK-Win-0.3.4.exe
jdk-6u14-windows-x64.exe
Google Chrome or Safari

When installing the PalmSDK, right click and run as administrator.
Make sure you install the sdk to C:\Pre\SDK.

Jason Robitaille · 07/29/2009, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeeds

I'm not trying to knock your tut but how is this easier than the current method.

Last I checked, the current way to install for Windows 7 is Novacom with Windows 7 - WebOS Internals (as mentioned in my first post)

rboatright · 07/29/2009, 09:27 AM

Jason, it's a WIKI... Please, feel free to update that page with the Orca method and to link it to Accessing Linux with a tag to go there if your windows 7 install fails.

It will be far more FINDABLE there than buried deep in Forum history.

Rick

MrDeeds · 07/29/2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Robitaille

Last I checked, the current way to install for Windows 7 is Novacom with Windows 7 - WebOS Internals (as mentioned in my first post)

I apologize dude, i thought you were posting a windows tutorial on getting the sdk installed on windows 7. I didn't notice your tutorial was specific to the novacom driver. Thats what happens when you type while sleepy.

banzr · 07/31/2009, 05:13 AM

Original instruction did not work until I attempted to charge phone after being completely drained. Novacom recognised Pre only then, allowing communication.

brancleveland · 07/31/2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ret2961

Did it all, installed properly, but I still get the ERROR; NO DEVICE FOUND...

Thanks!

I am also getting the same problem

darmood · 07/31/2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancleveland

I am also getting the same problem

what worked for me, is to go back into dev mode on pre "upupdown etc" turn off dev mode then after reset turn it back on. once I did that the new hard ware box did not return. then I went into device manager on pc right clicked palm novacom driver and updated driver, by searching in palm\palm,inc\novacom. it found driver than I was up and running. this is on vista 64bit

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Jason Robitaille Legend Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Posts: 3,880 Likes: 470 Thanks: 801 Thanked 12,876 Times in 1,489 Posts	Setting up Novacom on Windows 7 - Easier Method EDIT: THIS INFO IS OBSOLETE. DO NOT FOLLOW THIS GUIDE If you need to install Novacom drivers, use Universal Novacom Installer or WOSQI ===================================== This is an alternate method from the WebOS-Internals one, on how to install Novacom on Windows 7. This one is for the average user who wants an easy install. First off, you'll need to download the WebOSDoctor recovery rom (or if you're using the current WebOS Quick Install, you'll already have this file): Sprint WebOSDoctor 1.2.1 or Bell (Canada). . Download and install Orca. It's a tool from Windows SDK to easily edit Microsoft Installer packages. It's a very quick and simple install. . Go to where you downloaded the WebOSDoctor recovery rom and right click on it. Choose "Open with", then "Choose Default Program" and choose whatever archive manager you use (WinZip, WinRar, 7-Zip, etc.). If you don't have any archive manager, I recommend 7-Zip, it's free. If your archive manager isn't listed, hit the "Browse" button and navigate to find it. Make sure "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file" is not checked. (we want "Java(TM) Platform SE binary" to always be the default) . Open up the resources folder. Scroll down through it till you find the 2 MSI files (NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and NovacomInstaller_x86.msi). For 32bit Windows 7, extract "NovacomInstaller_x86.msi" For 64bit Windows 7, extract "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" . Right click on the extracted MSI file. Click the "Edit with Orca" . On the left "Tables" list click "InstallExecuteSequence" and on the main table, look for "installumdf.08B8BE2B_9174_49D1_84B0_40324FD7DE34" and delete it. Save and close. . Run the msi. Everything should install properly Credits: Based on work found at CodeUtopia [Moderator's note:] Here are the current webOS 1.2.1 Sprint and Bell links (from cas_esq, as of 11/7/09): Sprint WebOSDoctor 1.2.1 or Bell (Canada) Last edited by Jason Robitaille; 07/12/2011 at 03:40 PM. Reason: updated notes - Craig
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