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Old 07/10/2009, 06:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone else experienced this? I followed instructions at the predev wiki to root my phone. Installed a bunch of things like optware, php term, bash, vim, etc.

Now, I cannot install apps anymore. The App catalog tells me I'm out of space, delete some apps. So I cleared up /var, there's plenty of space now. Plenty of space on other partitions as well. For the hell of it, I deleted a few apps from the GUI. It doesn't help.

Something else is wrong. Any thoughts?
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Old 07/10/2009, 07:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I had this happen to me yesterday, it kept saying I was out of memory. I removed 5 or 6 apps and STILL got the error. The culprit was Samba, I guess it was just too stinkin' big. Once I removed Samba everything was fine.

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Old 07/10/2009, 09:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Mine did it too. I made a thread here :

http://forums.precentral.net/hardwar...gh-memory.html

but no one responded so I used webdoctor.
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Old 07/13/2009, 09:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hrm...samba. I may have tried to install that. Thanks for the tip!
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Old 07/14/2009, 05:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Same problem here, but never tried installing samba. Just dropbear, the podcasting script, and the ajaxterm.
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Old 07/14/2009, 05:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Question:

Does this mean that when the Palm finally gets all those Apps up in their catalog, we won't be able to install them because of a memory space issue?

This could end up being major embarrassment for them in the long run. Especially since there is no memory slot like we all expected and want.

So what is the deal on this space, how large is it?

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Old 07/14/2009, 05:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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No, the device isn't actually full, nor are any of the other partitions. Something is happening that is causing the Pre to think it is, though. And so far it's a very small group of people who have rooted their Pre who are experiencing the issue, so it's either the process of rooting or something we're installing that's causing it. Just gotta track down what, I guess.
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Old 07/15/2009, 03:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't have samba. I do have the ajaxterm, though. Perhaps I should try removing that.

Anyone else closer to figuring this one out?
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Old 07/15/2009, 09:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm also encountering the "Sorry, Not Enough Memory" error. The device has been rooted, a few minor mods have been made that were on the dev wiki and the last thing I did was install FCEU and unsuccessfully run it.

Running df on the Pre shows 5.7GB available on /media/internal
Looking at top on the device shows that it's not running out of RAM.

Anybody have any thoughts yet? Or at least no where we could start looking for clues?

Here's a list of what ipkg has installed:
Code:
Package: bash
Package: binutils
Package: bzip2
Package: coreutils
Package: cyrus-sasl-libs
Package: diffutils
Package: dropbear
Package: e2fslibs
Package: expat
Package: gcc
Package: gdbm
Package: git
Package: libc-dev
Package: libcurl
Package: libdb
Package: libnsl
Package: libstdc++
Package: libxml2
Package: libxslt
Package: lzo
Package: ncurses
Package: ncursesw
Package: openldap-libs
Package: openssl
Package: patch
Package: pcre
Package: perl
Package: php
Package: php-thttpd
Package: psmisc
Package: quilt
Package: readline
Package: sudo
Package: util-linux-ng
Package: zlib
I also have My Tether,GM Bookmarks and ajaxterm installed.
It also looks like there's at least one case of an unrooted Pre having the issue discussion.treocentral.com/palm-pre/187352-new-update-version-1-0-3-a-24.html#post1697504 (Note: Can't put http in url due to post count)

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Old 07/15/2009, 10:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I had ajaxterm installed as well. Perhaps that is the common thread.
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Old 07/16/2009, 11:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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FIXED!

It was ajaxphpterm after all. I simply ran through the steps in reverse to remove it, and problem solved!
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Old 07/16/2009, 04:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I tried...
/sbin/initctl stop optware-thttpd
ipkg-opt remove php-thttpd
rm /etc/event.d/optware-thttpd
rm -rf /opt/share/www/ajaxphpterm

But I'm still receiving the out of memory error

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Old 07/16/2009, 04:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I did the following, as root:

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rootfs_open -w
/sbin/initctl stop optware-thttpd
cd /opt/share/www
rm -rf *
rm /etc/event.d/optware-thttpd 
rm /opt/etc/thttpd.conf
/opt/bin/ipkg-opt remove php-thttpd
rootfs_open -r    # caution: also reboots the phone!
Perhaps the other files in /opt/share/www are the culprit? The read-only and reboot may also help. Good luck!

Last edited by Kdaq; 07/16/2009 at 04:42 PM. Reason: forgot the rootfs_open commands and reboot
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Old 07/16/2009, 04:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Gave it a whirl, still a no go. Also tried removing GM bookmarks and Evernote, still nothing. Glad to see you got yours working again, though. Hopefully you don't have any more problems with this error
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Old 07/16/2009, 04:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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D'oh! Not sure if it matters, but do you have developer mode enabled? Mine is off.
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Old 07/16/2009, 05:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Nope, I turned off developer mode after I rooted it the first time a few days ago. Were there any other changes you made on the phone in addition to removing ajaxterm that you may have forgotten?
Maybe I need to start looking to find where this error message sits in the code and backtrack to what the Pre is doing that makes it think it's out of memory. Anybody have thoughts for a good place to start looking? Where does the app catalog live?
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Old 07/16/2009, 11:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Looks like the error can be found in /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.findapps/app/controllers/details-assistant.js on line 443. It's part an of else statement, so I changed the if statement from "if (status == true)" to "if (1 == 1)", which got rid of the "Sorry, Not Enough Memory" error, but the app just gets a "Installation failed" error instead. Not surprised that it didn't work, but had to give it a shot, heh.
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Old 07/17/2009, 05:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah, I had traced that myself and also hit a brick wall earlier. It's based on a check that's part of Luna IIRC (which is apparently compiled Java code, so we don't have access to the source).

Only other things I did earlier were to get rid of much of the ipkgs I had installed to play with. I backed-out perl, for instance (which was huge), and removed a Hello World app I had created. Also removed a random app from the App store.

As for what I still have custom: vim, bash, optware, sudo, dyndns, dropbear, sftp, mytether are most of it I think.
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Old 07/17/2009, 05:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I gave in and finally just did a restore on the phone. I didn't want to go through removing a bunch of stuff only to run into the problem again. One thought that occurred to me when I was trying to dig deeper and looking at where it checks if there's enough space and I wondered if maybe when you go to install an app, if it adds that apps space to the total count, but upon something like a no network error, if it fails to remove that app from the "used space"...if that makes sense.
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Old 07/28/2009, 10:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm also having this issue.. Any solutions yet?
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