webOS Nation Forums >  webOS apps and software >  webOS development > Anyone wanna bet when Homebrew apps will outnumber App Cat apps?
Anyone wanna bet when Homebrew apps will outnumber App Cat apps?

  Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07/05/2009, 11:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Colonel Kernel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 773
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 191
Thanked 101 Times in 58 Posts
Default Anyone wanna bet when Homebrew apps will outnumber App Cat apps?

I say no later than the 17th of July.

Any takers?

NOTE TO THE FUZZ: I'm not speaking of an illegal wager, of course.
Colonel Kernel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/05/2009, 11:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Naval Station Norfolk
Posts: 211
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 6
Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts
Default

hmm i doubt you will find someone to take u on... as of now we have 20 homebrew apps and 30 app cat apps, man i hope Palm is paying attention!!! there is no doubt in my mind that homebrew apps will out-number app cat apps in a matter of weeks maybe days!!!
knightflores is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/06/2009, 09:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
Colonel Kernel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 773
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 191
Thanked 101 Times in 58 Posts
Default

Uh, oh ...
Palm's App Catalog to see wave of new entries soon?
Colonel Kernel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/06/2009, 09:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
DNic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 599
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 174
Thanked 44 Times in 34 Posts
Default

One can only hope.
DNic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/06/2009, 09:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 73
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 5
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Default

once the SDK goes pubic, wont all the homebrew apps turn into offical apps that palm accepts
murdermajig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/06/2009, 10:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
TMed_ATL's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ATL/ Athens, GA
Posts: 413
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 61
Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts
Default

not all but the ones that get approved yes. We can only hope. End of summer should be nice with the SDK going public, Officially that is...
__________________
SCK Manager
TMed_ATL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/06/2009, 10:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
Blubble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Silicon Valley, California
Posts: 1,025
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 37
Thanked 444 Times in 161 Posts
Default

Palm has a very specific set of design, testing and support requirements that may keep a lot of homebrew apps out of the catalog. I plan on releasing anything I make through the catalog, but a lot of people may not want or be able to.
Blubble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/06/2009, 11:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
Member
 
Colonel Kernel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 773
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 191
Thanked 101 Times in 58 Posts
Default

It's the last two sections of this that get me worried.

Palm Developer Agreement Altered
http://www.precentral.net/palm-devel...eement-altered

Only signed apps and only through App Cat.

Last edited by Colonel Kernel; 07/06/2009 at 01:17 PM.
Colonel Kernel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/06/2009, 11:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Naval Station Norfolk
Posts: 211
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 6
Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts
Default

the count is now 24 homebrew apps to 30 app cat apps....
knightflores is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/07/2009, 12:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
Colonel Kernel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 773
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 191
Thanked 101 Times in 58 Posts
Default

I count 31 now, too. It could be as high as 32 depending on what you count, but it doesn't matter anymore. There are more Hombrews than App Cats.

Here's the list by my count:

0. SimplyFlipFlops by xoar, simplyflipflops and spotter
1. XboxLive Friends by oil
2. Translator App for the Pre by roar
3. Solitaire by t.tokarczyk01
4. My Notification by Kaerey
5. Tip Calculator by jwz
-- Tip Calculator *Redux* by PreGame
6. Othello / Reversi by rboatright
7. Google Maps Bookmarks by bruba
8. BADD Flashlight by Colonel Kernel
9. Paint App by Snailslug
10. Snake by roar
11. Tic Tac Toe by kmax12
12. pDice by robobeau
13. Dot Game by oil
14. My Flashlight by PreGame
15. Lottery Number Generator by mapara
16. Dali Clock by jwz
17. Jokes 1.0a by mapara
18. Timer On A Stick by dsevil
19. Scientific calculator by rboatright
20. Dilbert by roar
21. Garfield by roar
22. Pimp My Sounds by Pimp My Pre
23. Sudoku Solver by rboatright
24. My Tether by aonic
25. Soundboard by lrdavis4
26. Habla! by taalibeen
27. Scientific RPN Calculator by TheMarco
28. Kentucky Offender Online Lookup by tycoonbob
29. Oncopda by palmdoc2005
30. Tetris by elchileno
31. Stopwatch/Timer App by sambao21
... and going and going ... et cetera ... ad infinitum

[EDIT: After keeping track of the run up to the 31st app, this is it.]

Last edited by Colonel Kernel; 07/10/2009 at 05:35 PM. Reason: Last edit on this list.
Colonel Kernel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/07/2009, 06:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Kernel View Post
It's the last two sections of this that get me worried.

Palm Developer Agreement Altered


Only signed apps and only through App Cat.
Does being in the catalog mean that the app will always cost money?

Open distribution sounds great, and I really hope that they continue to allow it, but I wonder what crooks will exploit if we are allowed to install just anything.
kirkofalltrades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/07/2009, 06:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
Member
 
Colonel Kernel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 773
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 191
Thanked 101 Times in 58 Posts
Default

PalmOS survived quite well for a full decade without (intentionally) malicious code being a problem.
Colonel Kernel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2009, 08:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
Member
 
Colonel Kernel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 773
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 191
Thanked 101 Times in 58 Posts
Default

Add another:

Sudoku Solver
http://m.forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?t=191359

I've also updated my List post.
Colonel Kernel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2009, 08:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
Member
 
sacherjj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,686
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 41
Thanked 365 Times in 215 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Kernel View Post
PalmOS survived quite well for a full decade without (intentionally) malicious code being a problem.
However, PalmOS was not multitasking. A poorly written program that steals CPU cycles in the background can pull down the whole Pre experience. We had crap programs like that pretty early and often on the PalmOS. It was easy to recognize them, because nothing else was running. It will be harder on WebOS without a good code review and testing.
sacherjj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2009, 12:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 76
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sacherjj View Post
However, PalmOS was not multitasking. A poorly written program that steals CPU cycles in the background can pull down the whole Pre experience. We had crap programs like that pretty early and often on the PalmOS. It was easy to recognize them, because nothing else was running. It will be harder on WebOS without a good code review and testing.
I came from a Windows Mobile phone and over there you installed whatever you wanted, and it all multitasked. You install a new program, the next day your phone isn't acting right - go back and uninstall it. Simple.
ualdayan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2009, 12:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
Member
 
Warblad13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York City
Posts: 1,095
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 21
Thanked 90 Times in 70 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Kernel View Post
I say no later than the 17th of July.

Any takers?

NOTE TO THE FUZZ: I'm not speaking of an illegal wager, of course.
before july 13th
Warblad13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/09/2009, 09:01 AM   #17 (permalink)
Editor Emeritus
 
Dieter Bohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 4,872
Likes Received: 6
Thanks: 290
Thanked 1,362 Times in 360 Posts
Default

Couple more...

SO CLOSE! Would LOVE to be able to say that the homebrew community has more apps than the app catalog.
__________________
Dieter Bohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/09/2009, 10:57 AM   #18 (permalink)
Moderator
 
jbg7474's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 3,858
Likes Received: 92
Thanks: 1,019
Thanked 1,061 Times in 715 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dieter Bohn View Post
Couple more...

SO CLOSE! Would LOVE to be able to say that the homebrew community has more apps than the app catalog.
Any way to count the number of downloads? After all, it's one thing to claim more applications, and quite another to claim a significant number of installations.
__________________
Palm III-->Handspring Visor-->Sony Clie PEG-NR70-->no PDA -->Palm Treo 755p-->Palm Pre-->HP Veer
jbg7474 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/09/2009, 08:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
Member
 
Colonel Kernel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 773
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 191
Thanked 101 Times in 58 Posts
Default

I count 28 as I don't think it's proper to count SimplyFlipFlops and Tip Calc *Redux* (with its decimal/zero bug) in the official count.

I think we should count conservatively to make the celebration uncontestable.

I updated my list post again, too.
Colonel Kernel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/09/2009, 09:31 PM   #20 (permalink)
Member
 
amateurhack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 314
Likes Received: 0
Thanks: 79
Thanked 156 Times in 22 Posts
Default

I say by Monday the 13th. But in Texas, if there ain't money on the table, it ain't a bet.
amateurhack is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

 

Thread Tools
Display Modes



 


Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0