Installing homebrew apps w/out rooting - Page 15

xorg · 06/27/2009, 12:17 PM

I've downloaded the sdk but haven't jumped into it yet. Anyone know if it shows how to package and how to sideload?

ChaoticOrder · 06/27/2009, 07:58 PM

I can no longer install apps from e-mail! I e-mailed links to the downloads and nothing happens no error, nothing; the link is highlighted and then nothing happens, the app is not in the launcher, I have even tried restarting!

xorg · 06/29/2009, 09:19 AM

^Still works for others. Are you rooted? Have you modified anything that could have interfered?

On SDK method, sounds like Pre has to be in god mode and the SDK must be required to install. Haven't tried it myself yet. The email link method is so far still needed for a stock Pre.

ldbobby · 06/29/2009, 01:38 PM

1.0.4 is out and has apparently killed this.

xorg · 06/29/2009, 01:40 PM

I have a new method for loading apps on stock Pre in the works. I talked to Palm and they are aware that I plan to start another initiative with some new ideas.

See this update...
pre dev wiki: Installing Homebrew Apps on Stock Pre without Rooting

Stay tuned for another initiative.

sacherjj · 06/29/2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorg

I've downloaded the sdk but haven't jumped into it yet. Anyone know if it shows how to package and how to sideload?

Once the SDK is running, build app with palm_build.bat

Install with palm_install.bat -d [tcp|usb] file.ipk

tcp -> Emulator
usb -> Pre attached and in Dev mode (need NovaCom running)

xorg · 06/29/2009, 01:52 PM

^Yeah, found that out. Am working on another way to load apps w/out need Dev mode or SDK. Stay tuned...

xstaticxgpx · 06/29/2009, 03:48 PM

wow, it's ALOT easier to install homebrew apps on 1.0.4 than I thought...

Simply, use ar to extract the ipk - then extract the data.tar.gz, cd into the usr/palm/applications dir, then using your rooted pre with ssh and sftp, copy recursively the (in this case) the de.umass.translate directory to your pre's /usr/palm/applications directory. **** yes linux backend!!

xorg · 06/29/2009, 05:27 PM

^This is not new in 1.04. It was possible as soon as rooting was possible and we figured out the packaging. If you're rooted, using ipkg install is even easier.

But the goal is to install apps for non-rooted Pres. This is about allowing homebrewers to publicly distribute apps on unmodified Pres. The challenge is to do it with enough security for end users.

adsllc · 07/13/2009, 11:58 AM

I've just built a simple app to view NexRad looping radar images. The stock browser won't show the animated .gif, but this app will. I'm posting it here for testing and review as instructed by predev.wikidot.com. All comments are welcome!

I'm too new to post a proper link, so you'll have to copy and paste.

adsllc.com / pre

northward · 07/13/2009, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsllc

I've just built a simple app to view NexRad looping radar images. The stock browser won't show the animated .gif, but this app will. I'm posting it here for testing and review as instructed by predev.wikidot.com. All comments are welcome!

I'm too new to post a proper link, so you'll have to copy and paste.

adsllc.com / pre

Good start! Appreciate the work. A few suggestions:

1. Post this by starting a new topic in the Homebrew Apps forum. Almost nobody will see it here.

2. Enable rotating portrait/landscape mode. For example, the national radar composite would be much better viewed in landscape mode.

3. Enable zoom in/out with the pinch gesture.

Like I said, though, nice work!

adsllc · 07/17/2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northward

Good start! Appreciate the work. A few suggestions:
1. Post this by starting a new topic in the Homebrew Apps forum. Almost nobody will see it here.
2. Enable rotating portrait/landscape mode. For example, the national radar composite would be much better viewed in landscape mode.
3. Enable zoom in/out with the pinch gesture.

1. Any ideas what the secret handshake is to create a new thread in that forum? I don't appear to have access.
2. Done.
3. Have you seen any documentation on how to do this?

northward · 07/17/2009, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsllc

1. Any ideas what the secret handshake is to create a new thread in that forum? I don't appear to have access.
2. Done.
3. Have you seen any documentation on how to do this?

1. I believe it may be moderated. Contact one of the forum moderators or admins.
2. Terrific!
3. Not a clue. Just an end-user here.

madamealaina · 07/23/2009, 04:05 PM

I feel like a complete twit as I cannot figure this out. I've tried emailing the link as well as typing it in and neither work to install the apps. My pre is not rooted and I am not a programmer. Is there an easy way to go about this or do I need to root the darned thing?

adma84 · 07/23/2009, 06:42 PM

has anyone been able to make the MAKEFILE work on OSx? I get the error

Code:

gnutar: unrecognized option `--transform'

I ran this without a hitch in Ubuntu, and could package my app, but I would really like to have this work in the same environment in which I am actually programming. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated

06/27/2009, 12:17 PM	#281 (permalink)
xorg Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 633 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 85 Thanked 303 Times in 146 Posts	I've downloaded the sdk but haven't jumped into it yet. Anyone know if it shows how to package and how to sideload?
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06/27/2009, 07:58 PM	#282 (permalink)
ChaoticOrder Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 20 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I can no longer install apps from e-mail! I e-mailed links to the downloads and nothing happens no error, nothing; the link is highlighted and then nothing happens, the app is not in the launcher, I have even tried restarting!
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06/29/2009, 09:19 AM	#283 (permalink)
xorg Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 633 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 85 Thanked 303 Times in 146 Posts	^Still works for others. Are you rooted? Have you modified anything that could have interfered? On SDK method, sounds like Pre has to be in god mode and the SDK must be required to install. Haven't tried it myself yet. The email link method is so far still needed for a stock Pre.
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06/29/2009, 01:38 PM	#284 (permalink)
ldbobby Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1.0.4 is out and has apparently killed this.
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06/29/2009, 01:40 PM	#285 (permalink)
xorg Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 633 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 85 Thanked 303 Times in 146 Posts	I have a new method for loading apps on stock Pre in the works. I talked to Palm and they are aware that I plan to start another initiative with some new ideas. See this update... pre dev wiki: Installing Homebrew Apps on Stock Pre without Rooting Stay tuned for another initiative.
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06/29/2009, 01:52 PM	#287 (permalink)
xorg Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 633 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 85 Thanked 303 Times in 146 Posts	^Yeah, found that out. Am working on another way to load apps w/out need Dev mode or SDK. Stay tuned...
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06/29/2009, 03:48 PM	#288 (permalink)
xstaticxgpx Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 28 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	wow, it's ALOT easier to install homebrew apps on 1.0.4 than I thought... Simply, use ar to extract the ipk - then extract the data.tar.gz, cd into the usr/palm/applications dir, then using your rooted pre with ssh and sftp, copy recursively the (in this case) the de.umass.translate directory to your pre's /usr/palm/applications directory. **** yes linux backend!!
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06/29/2009, 05:27 PM	#289 (permalink)
xorg Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 633 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 85 Thanked 303 Times in 146 Posts	^This is not new in 1.04. It was possible as soon as rooting was possible and we figured out the packaging. If you're rooted, using ipkg install is even easier. But the goal is to install apps for non-rooted Pres. This is about allowing homebrewers to publicly distribute apps on unmodified Pres. The challenge is to do it with enough security for end users.
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07/13/2009, 11:58 AM	#290 (permalink)
adsllc Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 47 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 110 Times in 6 Posts	I've just built a simple app to view NexRad looping radar images. The stock browser won't show the animated .gif, but this app will. I'm posting it here for testing and review as instructed by predev.wikidot.com. All comments are welcome! I'm too new to post a proper link, so you'll have to copy and paste. adsllc.com / pre
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07/23/2009, 04:05 PM	#294 (permalink)
madamealaina Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I feel like a complete twit as I cannot figure this out. I've tried emailing the link as well as typing it in and neither work to install the apps. My pre is not rooted and I am not a programmer. Is there an easy way to go about this or do I need to root the darned thing?
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07/23/2009, 06:42 PM	#295 (permalink)
adma84 Homebrew Developer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 290 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 24 Thanked 23 Times in 13 Posts	has anyone been able to make the MAKEFILE work on OSx? I get the error Code: gnutar: unrecognized option `--transform' I ran this without a hitch in Ubuntu, and could package my app, but I would really like to have this work in the same environment in which I am actually programming. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated
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