Doctors and the Pre

cary328is · 04/20/2009, 06:36 PM

Here's another article for discussion - for you healthcare professionals here:

Will doctors stick by Palm? | mobihealthnews

rbcmd · 04/20/2009, 07:33 PM

Thanks for the article. As a physician, I can attest as to how smartphones have revolutionized the way we practice medicine. They have become a constant source of information in an ever changing field.
Treo's have clearly been the most often seen unit, but blackberries and iphone's are now becoming more desired ( some 3rd party apps made palm os unstable). That said, I still see Palm being able to maintain and recapture what it may have lost with the medical community if the Pre comes out with epocrates available and 3rd party medical apps to follow soon.

palmdoc2005 · 04/20/2009, 07:47 PM

I'll probably be like Bill and jump aboard the Pre ship if and when it launches (GSM version for me).
I pose this question as well (shameless plug

) here in my blog as a Poll

cary328is · 04/20/2009, 07:48 PM

rbcmd - first of all, love the name and avatar. Secondly, I really hope that you would consider getting the Pre for your profession. I know that epocrates was one of the partners Palm introduced during CES back in January - so I'm sure there are plans to have medical apps work with the Pre. Being a programmer for EMR, I just love seeing doctors who are very tech-savvy such as yourself. Input from providers such as yourself help folks like us really enhance software for your needs. I look forward to seeing your review of the Pre and how/if you use it in your daily practice.

rbcmd · 04/20/2009, 07:54 PM

I have every intention of using the Pre as my smartphone of choice for both work and home. I have accepted that epocrates is all I need to start, but as the WebOS platform seems to be an easy venue to program for (as per early reviews), I am confident alot of Apps will follow. My practice is going EMR as we speak (IMPAC- oncology specific) and I am excited to use the Pre's internet connectivity to access patient info while on thr go during weekend calls. Elaborate plans, I know- but a guy can dream can't he?

palmdoc2005 · 04/20/2009, 08:07 PM

@rbcmd - I'm very excited too about WebOS especially if it makes it easy for amateur physician coders like myself. I don't know if you use Haemoncrules, but WebOS has made me think of moving on from PalmOS. While waiting to see how easy (or difficult) WebOS programming is, at least I have taken the plunge to Webapp/Javascript and Haemoncrules will be ported over as OncoPDA, initally as a Webapp, but later hopefully as a standalone app for the Palm Pre. All this is borne out of necessity since we need it in our daily practice

rbcmd · 04/20/2009, 08:14 PM

Great site..just checked it out....and I look forward to incorporating your irreplaceable tools to the Pre

Aviator · 04/20/2009, 08:32 PM

I agree. As a long looong time palm user and depending on it to bill/charge capture, back up with an SD/ mini/micro SD/ whatever, I will be only looking for devices with ability to back up my day's work. This, due to its innate sensitivity, would preferably be local. I am all for the "cloud" when it comes down to connectivity and sharing/keeping up with contacts, but thats not the primary purpose of my PDA+phone.
Hope Palm realizes this. There is a whole bunch of us Docs who actually helped "make" Palm what it is today.

hypocaffeinemia · 04/20/2009, 08:53 PM

ICU RN soon to be NP student here.

I currently use an HTC Mogul running PEPID and epocrates.

Epocrates will likely be on the Pre at launch, and with a real and decent internet browser, I can get by with my medline account and my facility's uptodate account until more complete software solutions are available for it.

davidtm · 04/20/2009, 10:26 PM

I'm also a doc, a community psychiatrist, actually, and hope to be making the jump from a PDA + phone to a smart phone. (I'll have to talk our IT guy into opening our Exchange server to the web.) We went live with a web-based EMR 12/1, but it would require JAVA in the browser, so that may not work, right? I agree that ePocrates sounds like it will be available Day 1, which is great news.

palmdoc2005 · 04/21/2009, 01:08 AM

Oh no, the iPhone is in the lead

zionixi · 04/21/2009, 02:03 AM

Interesting thread as I am not a doctor.

rcyphermd · 04/21/2009, 09:29 AM

I am an OB/GYN and have been using Palm devices since the original Palm Pilot. The medical software and texts are indispensable. I use Epopcrates daily. Also PregTrak to monitor our patients. Looking forward to the Pre!

Riz Parvez · 04/21/2009, 01:20 PM

PGY-2 Psychiatry here. Use Epocrates daily, in addition to a few other healthcare apps (MGH Neuro and MentSTAT). Classic takes care of a lot of my worries, but having native epocrates would be even better. Can't wait for the Pre. Multitasking, unified e-mail with EAS support and one-handed operation will be terrific. Been using Palm since, well...the Handspring Visor(phone).

doctoss · 04/21/2009, 03:50 PM

Ob Gyn here. Been using epocrates for years along with a few others. Love the palm os, and waiting for pre.

Don'tPanic · 04/25/2009, 06:48 PM

As the IT Committee Chair for a 75 partner anesthesiology group I've been wanting to initiate electronic charge capture for a few years now. Our CEO is resistant - no one else is doing it. If any of you know a group who is I'd like to hear about them.
A majority of our group members use some sort of medical application on their Treos/Centros, usually Epocrates but several others as well.
I'll be switching over immediately upon release for two reasons:
1. I'm fed up with the additional steps needed to do anything in WinMob when compared to FrankenGarnet
2. Some poor sap has to evaluate the Pre as a possible/likely replacement for our Treos & Centros

Derek Kessler · 04/25/2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don'tPanic

2. Some poor sap has to evaluate the Pre as a possible/likely replacement for our Treos & Centros

Oh, man, what a horrible role.

palmdoc2005 · 04/25/2009, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Hair

Oh, man, what a horrible role.

A role I'd gladly volunteer for

hypocaffeinemia · 04/25/2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don'tPanic

As the IT Committee Chair for a 75 partner anesthesiology group I've been wanting to initiate electronic charge capture for a few years now. Our CEO is resistant - no one else is doing it. If any of you know a group who is I'd like to hear about them.
A majority of our group members use some sort of medical application on their Treos/Centros, usually Epocrates but several others as well.
I'll be switching over immediately upon release for two reasons:
1. I'm fed up with the additional steps needed to do anything in WinMob when compared to FrankenGarnet
2. Some poor sap has to evaluate the Pre as a possible/likely replacement for our Treos & Centros

Don't quote me on this, but I think GHA (Greater Houston Anesthesiology, 300+ providers) is moving to some form of electronic charge capture.

Wuzz · 05/20/2009, 03:18 AM

I really hope that there will be some decent medical software quickly for the Palm Pre. The back catalogue for Classic will help but it will definitely need some Pre specific goodness to show what the phone can do.

04/20/2009, 06:36 PM	Thread Author #1 (permalink)
cary328is Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 519 Likes: 0 Thanks: 180 Thanked 40 Times in 33 Posts	Doctors and the Pre Here's another article for discussion - for you healthcare professionals here: Will doctors stick by Palm? \| mobihealthnews
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04/20/2009, 07:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
rbcmd Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Thanks: 21 Thanked 31 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks for the article. As a physician, I can attest as to how smartphones have revolutionized the way we practice medicine. They have become a constant source of information in an ever changing field. Treo's have clearly been the most often seen unit, but blackberries and iphone's are now becoming more desired ( some 3rd party apps made palm os unstable). That said, I still see Palm being able to maintain and recapture what it may have lost with the medical community if the Pre comes out with epocrates available and 3rd party medical apps to follow soon.
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04/20/2009, 07:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
palmdoc2005 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: http://palmdoc.net Posts: 1,811 Likes: 11 Thanks: 294 Thanked 227 Times in 137 Posts	I'll probably be like Bill and jump aboard the Pre ship if and when it launches (GSM version for me). I pose this question as well (shameless plug ) here in my blog as a Poll __________________ Check out my My Medical webOS Apps Featured free apps: DrugView \| Eponyms \| eMed \| Dosecalcfree \| Beeb News
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04/20/2009, 07:48 PM	Thread Author #4 (permalink)
cary328is Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 519 Likes: 0 Thanks: 180 Thanked 40 Times in 33 Posts	rbcmd - first of all, love the name and avatar. Secondly, I really hope that you would consider getting the Pre for your profession. I know that epocrates was one of the partners Palm introduced during CES back in January - so I'm sure there are plans to have medical apps work with the Pre. Being a programmer for EMR, I just love seeing doctors who are very tech-savvy such as yourself. Input from providers such as yourself help folks like us really enhance software for your needs. I look forward to seeing your review of the Pre and how/if you use it in your daily practice.
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04/20/2009, 07:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
rbcmd Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Thanks: 21 Thanked 31 Times in 10 Posts	I have every intention of using the Pre as my smartphone of choice for both work and home. I have accepted that epocrates is all I need to start, but as the WebOS platform seems to be an easy venue to program for (as per early reviews), I am confident alot of Apps will follow. My practice is going EMR as we speak (IMPAC- oncology specific) and I am excited to use the Pre's internet connectivity to access patient info while on thr go during weekend calls. Elaborate plans, I know- but a guy can dream can't he?
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04/20/2009, 08:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
palmdoc2005 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: http://palmdoc.net Posts: 1,811 Likes: 11 Thanks: 294 Thanked 227 Times in 137 Posts	@rbcmd - I'm very excited too about WebOS especially if it makes it easy for amateur physician coders like myself. I don't know if you use Haemoncrules, but WebOS has made me think of moving on from PalmOS. While waiting to see how easy (or difficult) WebOS programming is, at least I have taken the plunge to Webapp/Javascript and Haemoncrules will be ported over as OncoPDA, initally as a Webapp, but later hopefully as a standalone app for the Palm Pre. All this is borne out of necessity since we need it in our daily practice __________________ Check out my My Medical webOS Apps Featured free apps: DrugView \| Eponyms \| eMed \| Dosecalcfree \| Beeb News Last edited by palmdoc2005; 04/20/2009 at 09:32 PM.
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04/20/2009, 08:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
rbcmd Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Thanks: 21 Thanked 31 Times in 10 Posts	Great site..just checked it out....and I look forward to incorporating your irreplaceable tools to the Pre
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04/20/2009, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Aviator Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 574 Likes: 1 Thanks: 32 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	I agree. As a long looong time palm user and depending on it to bill/charge capture, back up with an SD/ mini/micro SD/ whatever, I will be only looking for devices with ability to back up my day's work. This, due to its innate sensitivity, would preferably be local. I am all for the "cloud" when it comes down to connectivity and sharing/keeping up with contacts, but thats not the primary purpose of my PDA+phone. Hope Palm realizes this. There is a whole bunch of us Docs who actually helped "make" Palm what it is today.
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04/20/2009, 08:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
hypocaffeinemia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 213 Likes: 0 Thanks: 12 Thanked 71 Times in 27 Posts	ICU RN soon to be NP student here. I currently use an HTC Mogul running PEPID and epocrates. Epocrates will likely be on the Pre at launch, and with a real and decent internet browser, I can get by with my medline account and my facility's uptodate account until more complete software solutions are available for it.
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04/20/2009, 10:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
davidtm Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 476 Likes: 11 Thanks: 138 Thanked 62 Times in 51 Posts	I'm also a doc, a community psychiatrist, actually, and hope to be making the jump from a PDA + phone to a smart phone. (I'll have to talk our IT guy into opening our Exchange server to the web.) We went live with a web-based EMR 12/1, but it would require JAVA in the browser, so that may not work, right? I agree that ePocrates sounds like it will be available Day 1, which is great news. __________________ "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away" - Tom Waits
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04/21/2009, 01:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
palmdoc2005 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: http://palmdoc.net Posts: 1,811 Likes: 11 Thanks: 294 Thanked 227 Times in 137 Posts	Oh no, the iPhone is in the lead __________________ Check out my My Medical webOS Apps Featured free apps: DrugView \| Eponyms \| eMed \| Dosecalcfree \| Beeb News
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04/21/2009, 02:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
zionixi Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 152 Likes: 0 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Interesting thread as I am not a doctor. __________________ I love lolcats
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04/21/2009, 09:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
rcyphermd Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Butler, PA Posts: 795 Likes: 0 Thanks: 7 Thanked 52 Times in 13 Posts	I am an OB/GYN and have been using Palm devices since the original Palm Pilot. The medical software and texts are indispensable. I use Epopcrates daily. Also PregTrak to monitor our patients. Looking forward to the Pre!
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04/21/2009, 01:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Riz Parvez Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 167 Likes: 4 Thanks: 81 Thanked 49 Times in 19 Posts	PGY-2 Psychiatry here. Use Epocrates daily, in addition to a few other healthcare apps (MGH Neuro and MentSTAT). Classic takes care of a lot of my worries, but having native epocrates would be even better. Can't wait for the Pre. Multitasking, unified e-mail with EAS support and one-handed operation will be terrific. Been using Palm since, well...the Handspring Visor(phone). __________________ Handspring Visorphone -> Treo 600 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 700p -> Treo Pro -> Pre -> NS4G -> FrankenPre 2
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04/21/2009, 03:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
doctoss Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 91 Likes: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ob Gyn here. Been using epocrates for years along with a few others. Love the palm os, and waiting for pre.
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04/25/2009, 06:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
Don'tPanic Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Thanks: 26 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Looking forward to charge capture As the IT Committee Chair for a 75 partner anesthesiology group I've been wanting to initiate electronic charge capture for a few years now. Our CEO is resistant - no one else is doing it. If any of you know a group who is I'd like to hear about them. A majority of our group members use some sort of medical application on their Treos/Centros, usually Epocrates but several others as well. I'll be switching over immediately upon release for two reasons: 1. I'm fed up with the additional steps needed to do anything in WinMob when compared to FrankenGarnet 2. Some poor sap has to evaluate the Pre as a possible/likely replacement for our Treos & Centros __________________ USR Pilot 5000->3Com PalmPilot Pro->Palm IIIx->Palm 515->Palm TT3->Treo 700p->HTC Touch Pro->Palm Pre->HTC Evo
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05/20/2009, 03:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
Wuzz Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 22 Likes: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I really hope that there will be some decent medical software quickly for the Palm Pre. The back catalogue for Classic will help but it will definitely need some Pre specific goodness to show what the phone can do.
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