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    I know we're in the age of "dead apps" threads which makes sense for a technically "dead" OS. But even in 2014 I sometimes go on here and find an app that I didn't know existed.
    So here's what I currently have on my phone (Pre3) (will add Tablet soon) hopefully you'll find a new app or 2 and feel free to share what you have on yours.

    Applications:
    Facebook - Obvious
    Project Macaw - Twitter
    FeedSpider - RSS Client
    ESPN ScoreCenter - Sports Client
    IAmA reddit - Reddit Client
    AccuWeather - Weather Client
    AuctionMate for eBay - eBay Client
    wIRC - IRC Client
    engadget - Tech website
    Flixster - Movie Reviews (Rotton Tomatoes)
    Amazon Deals - Self explanatory
    E Notes (free) - Evernote Client
    Boxalicious Free - Box.net Client

    Music/Media:
    GuttenPodder - Podcast Player
    Slacker Radio - Streaming Music
    Music (Remix) - Music Player
    Spotify - Streaming Music (this app is a little buggy on Pre3)
    Tunein by RadioTime - Stream Music/News/Sports

    Games:
    SuperNES - Super Nintendo Emulator
    VisualBoy Advance - Gameboy Advance/Color Emulator (Works with Pre2 and older)
    2048 - Puzzle Game
    Woodenigma - Puzzle Game
    Sims 3 (buggy with Pre3, works with Pre2 and older)

    Preware:
    Govnah - Control the CPU of your device
    Internalz Pro - File Manager
    App Tuckerbox - Control your Apps on your devices
    Tweaks - Tweak your device
    Save/Restore - Save and Restore your data
    Lumberjack - View application/system logs
    Impostah - Device/Application/Everything information
    Dr. Battery - Device battery information
    Last edited by -dunn; 08/05/2014 at 07:19 AM. Reason: Thread got cut-off
  2. #2  
    Looking to the future, I note Herrie's warnings that there is a LOT of work to be done on LuneOS. He is trying to both manage expectations and attract developers to speed the work being done.

    Success breeds success and history is littered with examples of clearly superior products failing due to the market dominance of competitors. If webOS-Ports do eventually deliver a high-quality product, it may still remain a zombie OS. In my opinion, there are two levels of success possible for LuneOS: Firstly, it will hopefully be taken up by former & current webOS users as an enthusiast's OS. Secondly, there is always the slight possiblility that it goes mainstream. (How do you think webOS is doing?)

    But especially recently, the ecosystem has become a key factor: People make apps and accessories for the successful products because they provide access to the largest markets and users buy those phones because of all the apps and accessories... It's a virtuous circle.

    I'm seeing stories about how maybe 50% of app developers never make any real money and from app pricing and the controversies over in-app payment, it's clear that it's difficult to get anyone to pay for stuff these days. It's a game of mass sales of low-margin products. It's hard to justify the effort of targeting smaller markets with even less chance of return. It is unsurprising that in this environment, iOS and Android have vast app catalogues while even a company with the resources of Microsoft is struggling to get some popular apps on it's system. For them, Blackberry, webOS, Firefox etc., the circle is a vicious one. Not being in the top two means very few apps are created for the other platforms. Cross-platform technologies may have some impact here, but it's hard to predict. However, a huge app-catalogue doesn't mean that all the apps are quality. It's often said that many Android apps in particular are poor.

    So it seems a catalogue doesn't have to be huge if it is fairly comprehensive and of good quality. It is to be hoped that LuneOS can leverage exisiting apps, cross-platform technologies and perhaps ports from other platforms sufficient to keep the enthusiasts on board. This is also an areas where those who lack the skills to develop the OS, but can develop apps, can contribute. That level of support may create a chance for mainstream adoption and bring apps from popular services. Realistically, it's unlikely, but possible.

    It's good to see a list like this and start to consider what apps will be needed to give LuneOS a fighting chance to succeed. A strategy of quantity won't happen immediately, so quality has to be adopted and if LuneOS can achieve most of what the dominat OSes can, that might be enough.
    Last edited by Preemptive; 08/06/2014 at 06:09 AM.
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    Apps:
    Accuweather
    AgendaZ
    Archive Manager
    Boxalicious
    Calc12CS (Financial/Scientific calculator)
    ComicShelf (CBR Reader)
    Dictionary (Offline dictionary)
    Explorer for Dropbox
    Facebook
    QuickChat for Facebook
    FeedSpider (Feedly client)
    FlashCards
    FTPit!
    Forums (Tapatalk client)
    GC-gogo (Geocaching app)
    Google Maps
    JogStats (pedometer)
    Keyring (Password Keeper)
    neato! (send messages between devices)
    netSpeed
    Opera's Bookmarks (Opera browser bookmark sync)
    Package Tracker
    Piscel Smart Office
    pReader (eBook reader)
    Project Macaw (Twitter client)
    QuickPost (to Facebook & Twitter)
    ReadOnTouch Pro (Pocket client)
    Splashtop Remote (VNC client)
    SynerGV (Google Voice)
    TapNote (Dropbox note syncing)
    TMaps NY Closest Subway
    TMaps - Pocket Subways
    Translator (Google Translate app)
    Unit Convertor
    Urban Dictionary
    Voice Recorder
    MojoWhatsup (WhatsApp client)
    WhitePages
    Wordpress
    Yelp
    ZenSearch (Craigslist client)
    ZIP Code Tools

    Music/Media:
    Amazon MP3
    Apollo (Pandora Client)
    Grooveshark
    GuttenPodder
    KalemSoft Media Player
    Music Player (Remix)
    Photo Effects Pro
    PhotoMe (allows front camera for photos on Pre3)
    Slacker Radio
    SongID (Shazam-type app)
    Spotify
    TuneIn Radio

    Games:
    Buka HD
    DogFighters Free
    Evac HD
    Ironworm
    The Game of Life
    Monopoly
    Need for Speed: Undercover
    Quell HD
    Quell Reflect HD
    Radiant Defense
    Risk
    Slice It!
    Sparkle 2
    Spirit
    SuperNES
    SuperJump
    Swingworm

    Widgets:
    Battery Widget
    Dash Weather
    Pop!Later (Pocket)
    Toggle4G Widget (tracks data usage)

    Homebrew:
    Clock Sync
    Dr. Battery
    freeTether
    Govnah
    Impostah
    Internalz Pro
    Media Indexer Refresher
    New Device Menu Patch (beta3)
    Netstat
    Preware
    Save/Restore
    Tailor
    Theme Manager
    Tweaks
    USB Flash Mount OTG
    WiFi File Sharing
    xwTweak

    I don't use my Pre3 as my primary phone anymore mainly due to a half-dozen other apps that have no viable option on webOS such as Instagram, SnapChat, Tinder, Square Register, etc so those apps are important to me also. Having a good modern web browser in LuneOS will go a long way with a lot of the needs people have but certain things really do need apps. Still making this list reminded me that even today the Pre3 is still a viable phone that for the most part does everything I need it to.

    Additional apps/media/homebrew on TouchPad Go:
    Communities (instead of Forums)
    Craigslist Pro (instead of ZenSearch)
    Doggy Bag (instead of ReadOnTouch Pro)
    Flixi (Exhibition app)
    iHeartRadio
    Kayak HD
    LunaCE
    Retune (iTunes remote controller app)
    SubOrbital (to add pages to launcher)

    Additional games on TP Go:
    Asphalt 6
    Beyond Ynth
    Doodle Fit
    Doodle Pool HD
    Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
    Nova2
    Last edited by cbosdell; 08/06/2014 at 12:26 AM.
    Devices: Pre3 16GB (AT&T - webOS 2.2.4) | White TouchPad 4G 32GB (AT&T - webOS 3.0.5 + LunaCE)
  4. #4  
    Quote Originally Posted by Preemptive View Post
    Looking to the future, I note Herrie's warnings that there is a LOT of work to be done on LuneOS. He is trying to both manage expectations and attract developers to speed the work being done.

    Success breeds success and history is littered with examples of clearly superior products failing due to the market dominance of competitors. If webOS-Ports do eventually deliver a high-quality product, it may still remain a zombie OS. In my opinion, there are two levels of success possible for LuneOS: Firstly, it will hopefully be taken up by former & current webOS users as an enthusiast's OS. Secondly, there is always the slight possiblility that it goes mainstream. (How do you think webOS is doing?)

    But especially recently, the ecosystem has become a key factor: People make apps and accessories for the successful products because they provide access to the largest markets and users buy those phones because of all the apps and accessories... It's a virtuous circle.

    I'm seeing stories about how maybe 50% of app developers never make any real money and from app pricing and the controversies over in-app payment, it's clear that it's difficult to get anyone to pay for stuff these days. It's a game of mass sales of low-margin products. It's hard to justify the effort of targeting smaller markets with even less chance of return. It is unsurprising that in this environment, iOS and Android have vast app catalogues while even a company with the resources of Microsoft is struggling to get some popular apps on it's system. For them, Blackberry, webOS, Firefox etc., the circle is a vicious one. Not being in the top two means very few apps are created for the other platforms. Cross-platform technologies may have some impact here, but it's hard to predict. However, a huge app-catalogue doesn't mean that all the apps are quality. It's often said that many Android apps in particular are poor.

    So it seems a catalogue doesn't have to be huge if it is fairly comprehensive and of good quality. It is to be hoped that LuneOS can leverage exisiting apps, cross-platform technologies and perhaps ports from other platforms sufficient to keep the enthusiasts on board. This is also an areas where those who lack the skills to develop the OS, but can develop apps, can contribute. That level of support may create a chance for mainstream adoption and bring apps from popular services. Realistically, it's unlikely, but possible.

    It's good to see a list like this and start to consider what apps will be needed to give LuneOS a fighting chance to succeed. A stategy of quantity won't happen immediately, so quality has to be adopted and if LuneOS can achieve most of what the dominat OSes can, that might be enough.
    Ecosystem is the key word. It's true that many Android apps are of poor quality and even some of the developers of good quality ones that are cross platform stated that they make more money from "niche" platforms compared to Android. The good thing is that most things get more and more web centered, so native apps are more and more replaced by just a front-end for a proper mobile website. Having a good browser should sort a lot of the app issues.

    There will be however still quite some apps that are only available natively (Instagram and some of the IM platforms come to mind). Ideally LuneOS would have a solution to run those, similar to what BB10 or Jolla has, so Android apps could also be run. Unfortunately there is no open source solution for this (at the moment) and it would require licensing fees to be paid to get this technology implemented. Anyway that's something for later, core OS functionalities still need to be fully implemented where they are missing before something like that could be in scope.

    We're gradually getting more hands helping out, even when it's just with small bits of the OS.
    HP Veer (daily driver), HP Pre 3, HP Touchpad Proper 4G/LTE (Sierra MC7710), HP Touchpad 32GB WiFi, Palm Pre 2
  5. #5  
    Quote Originally Posted by Herrie View Post
    There will be however still quite some apps that are only available natively (Instagram and some of the IM platforms come to mind). Ideally LuneOS would have a solution to run those, similar to what BB10 or Jolla has, so Android apps could also be run. Unfortunately there is no open source solution for this (at the moment) and it would require licensing fees to be paid to get this technology implemented.
    I'd suggest that there are solutions, but none currently ideal. Firstly, there's dual-booting Cyanogenmod. Possibly a better option for tablets and yes, requires reboot and doesn't interact with webOS. Possibly ACL could run under LuneOS (don't bet on it), but it's not open-source. Finally, there's this: (Pre3) AndroidChroot - run android inside webOS Performance is apparently not great at the moment, but modern devices with fast chips and plently of memory may help. It is open source and does integrate with webOS.

    In addition, I believe Google's new ART engine is open source, but have no idea how much work would be required to integrate it into webOS.
  6. #6  
    Hi

    Could you share voice recorder to me?
    Many thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by cbosdell View Post
    Apps:
    Accuweather
    AgendaZ
    Archive Manager
    Boxalicious
    Calc12CS (Financial/Scientific calculator)
    ComicShelf (CBR Reader)
    Dictionary (Offline dictionary)
    Explorer for Dropbox
    Facebook
    QuickChat for Facebook
    FeedSpider (Feedly client)
    FlashCards
    FTPit!
    Forums (Tapatalk client)
    GC-gogo (Geocaching app)
    Google Maps
    JogStats (pedometer)
    Keyring (Password Keeper)
    neato! (send messages between devices)
    netSpeed
    Opera's Bookmarks (Opera browser bookmark sync)
    Package Tracker
    Piscel Smart Office
    pReader (eBook reader)
    Project Macaw (Twitter client)
    QuickPost (to Facebook & Twitter)
    ReadOnTouch Pro (Pocket client)
    Splashtop Remote (VNC client)
    SynerGV (Google Voice)
    TapNote (Dropbox note syncing)
    TMaps NY Closest Subway
    TMaps - Pocket Subways
    Translator (Google Translate app)
    Unit Convertor
    Urban Dictionary
    Voice Recorder
    MojoWhatsup (WhatsApp client)
    WhitePages
    Wordpress
    Yelp
    ZenSearch (Craigslist client)
    ZIP Code Tools

    Music/Media:
    Amazon MP3
    Apollo (Pandora Client)
    Grooveshark
    GuttenPodder
    KalemSoft Media Player
    Music Player (Remix)
    Photo Effects Pro
    PhotoMe (allows front camera for photos on Pre3)
    Slacker Radio
    SongID (Shazam-type app)
    Spotify
    TuneIn Radio

    Games:
    Buka HD
    DogFighters Free
    Evac HD
    Ironworm
    The Game of Life
    Monopoly
    Need for Speed: Undercover
    Quell HD
    Quell Reflect HD
    Radiant Defense
    Risk
    Slice It!
    Sparkle 2
    Spirit
    SuperNES
    SuperJump
    Swingworm

    Widgets:
    Battery Widget
    Dash Weather
    Pop!Later (Pocket)
    Toggle4G Widget (tracks data usage)

    Homebrew:
    Clock Sync
    Dr. Battery
    freeTether
    Govnah
    Impostah
    Internalz Pro
    Media Indexer Refresher
    New Device Menu Patch (beta3)
    Netstat
    Preware
    Save/Restore
    Tailor
    Theme Manager
    Tweaks
    USB Flash Mount OTG
    WiFi File Sharing
    xwTweak

    I don't use my Pre3 as my primary phone anymore mainly due to a half-dozen other apps that have no viable option on webOS such as Instagram, SnapChat, Tinder, Square Register, etc so those apps are important to me also. Having a good modern web browser in LuneOS will go a long way with a lot of the needs people have but certain things really do need apps. Still making this list reminded me that even today the Pre3 is still a viable phone that for the most part does everything I need it to.

    Additional apps/media/homebrew on TouchPad Go:
    Communities (instead of Forums)
    Craigslist Pro (instead of ZenSearch)
    Doggy Bag (instead of ReadOnTouch Pro)
    Flixi (Exhibition app)
    iHeartRadio
    Kayak HD
    LunaCE
    Retune (iTunes remote controller app)
    SubOrbital (to add pages to launcher)

    Additional games on TP Go:
    Asphalt 6
    Beyond Ynth
    Doodle Fit
    Doodle Pool HD
    Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
    Nova2
  7. #7  
    Thanks for this thread.
    I'm quite dazzled for what Apps are mentioned here I never heard they existed, i.e. Amazon Mp3?!? Could you probably add the source and/or if there is any Chance where/If a ROW User could get hold of them?

    Best whishes
  8. #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by hfGermany View Post
    Thanks for this thread.
    I'm quite dazzled for what Apps are mentioned here I never heard they existed, i.e. Amazon Mp3?!? Could you probably add the source and/or if there is any Chance where/If a ROW User could get hold of them?

    Best whishes
    Amazon MP3 was bundled with the OS for supported regions, so it's not available for download. It doesn't matter much anymore, because the login has been broken for many months, and they likely will do nothing to address it.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre3 using Forums

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