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  1. #41  
    Tasogare, thank you for elaborating unlike the other poster.

    I was wondering, because when we are in "Markup/Tracking" the changes are colored by different users, for example I have a document I am working now with 3 different colors when tracking changes (my changes in blue, another in green, and another in purple). I have also seen documents with only red tracking, but clearly I am not working specifically in the legal field.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
  2. #42  
    yes, tracked changed allow you to see who added/deleted what. Redlines/blacklines just show cumulative changes between two documents.

    track is good for when you want to propose a change. Redline is good for seeing what changed since the last version of a document.

    redlines are usually PDF or rich text, so I would be surprised if QO could not view them correctly. Track is more difficult, and bug-prone as someone else mentioned. I use track all the time at my firm.
  3. #43  
    Quote Originally Posted by tasogare View Post
    yes, tracked changed allow you to see who added/deleted what. Redlines/blacklines just show cumulative changes between two documents.

    track is good for when you want to propose a change. Redline is good for seeing what changed since the last version of a document.

    redlines are usually PDF or rich text, so I would be surprised if QO could not view them correctly. Track is more difficult, and bug-prone as someone else mentioned. I use track all the time at my firm.
    I can verify that someone else that uses RTF at work said he was having problems with RTF on the TP. So this seems to be the OP's problem.

    I agree track is way difficult and buggy (you were probably referring to me complaining about tracking in an earlier post). I have had docs open in track every time on one persons computer even after accepting changes and turning off tracking, saving the document opening on multiple network computers, but one PC keeps opening in tracking.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
  4. #44  
    First, it's not RTFs. I'm looking for track changes in .doc documents. Word documents. Track changes. Not legal blacklines (a term I am not even familiar with). Let's move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by tasogare View Post
    but something tells me there are larger issues at play.
    There certainly are larger issues at play. Lack of apps, for one. Evernote still in Pre size, for instance. My wife even laughed at that. Comfort with Android, for another (and the fact that Android has certain features, like QuickOffice showing track changes). Third, the desire to strike while the iron is hot; people want a Touchpad and mine was only a week old, so I didn't have to sell it at a loss, and even made a tiny profit. Fourth, PDF scrolling vertically; which is a joke. Fifth, QO not properly rendering documents. Sixth, no arrow keys on the keyboard, which makes text entry and editing extremely frustrating and tedious (no, I'm not going to throw good money after bad and buy a keyboard). I could go on: Bing maps, etc. etc.

    The day the QO update was released, I started looking on eBay for the prices of bluetooth keyboards. I was tempted to even buy the entire accessory bundle. Then I got home and updated and it still wouldn't show me track changes (not legal blacklines, track changes). So I quit.

    I don't have the patience to sit around with a $99 toy while something, maybe, would happen. I saw myself in a year with a Touchpad and another tablet. So in a year I would have realized that I wasted my money on a toy that I can open email with, but where the fun disappears when trying to view attachments. So I sold it and will put the money towards a tablet that will give me what I need when I buy one later this year or early next year. One tablet, not two. Saving money and frustration.

    Also, did you imply the the QO update was rushed? All discussions I've read have stated that the update was extremely delayed.

    I'm also confused about why it's wrong to conflate the OS with the apps created for that OS. The issues with QO (lack of functionality, slow moving development) may not be symptoms of the OS, but they are symptoms that greatly affect the usability of the OS.

    The QO issue is a broader issue with apps and capabilities of webOS in general. An Android port is not going to be perfect, and Android 4.0 will likely never see the Touchpad. It's not worth having one.

    I've emailed Picsel to see if they will support track changes. If I ever hear back from them, I'll let you know. Until then, goodbye all, and good luck!
  5. #45  
    Quote Originally Posted by crogs571 View Post
    Does DTG or Polaris support redlining? I don't use it or need it, but considering all of these apps are still a bit lackluster on even some of the basic and simple things, I can't imagine this being supported or really putting HP at fault for it.
    The (free) QuickOffice on my Thunderbolt (Android) shows track changes in Word documents. I would assume that DTG for Android does as well. QO doesn't show comments, though. Still, a clear indication that it's possible and that it works. Documents I opened with my Thunderbolt showed track changes in red. On the Touchpad it was all black and you didn't know what was new and what was original; it just spit out the text. I don't even think it accepted all changes and showed me, it just treated it all as text to display.

    Who cares whose fault it is if the Touchpad doesn't support track changes? The Touchpad doesn't support track changes. I want a tablet that does. Fin.
  6. #46  
    im waiting on my touchpad, but does anyone know how google docs works in the browser? I kinda planned on using that most of the time. I dont know how they handle tracking.
  7. #47  
    yes, this is a gap for me as well, but much more is support for tabs, arrow keys, indenting of the multilevel bullet lists and spell check. At this point, except for the bullet lists, tapNote is still a better doc creator for me on TP. Hopefull though for an update
  8. #48  
    so pose the question to QO, especially if they have it as a "free" feature on their other OS versions. Funny. Never even knew you could do that in word. Never had the need.

    I will say it is frustrating to see these apps across the various platforms with different functionality and some less functional than others. Hopefully QO will get the webOS version up to speed. I'd be willing to pay to get it up to snuff. It's not like there are a plethora of options, so if we as customers want it right and they are a little reticent to put the time and effort in due to the state of webOS, I'd pony up to entice them to put the effort in to improve it.

    And anyone that just flat out returns the TP isn't really thinking clearly since you can flip it and make a $100 give or take or just keep it as a cheap disposable device and follow the hopeful future growth of webOS. Heck, HP already committed to another update of it the TP.
  9. #49  
    Picsel UK announced that there Smart Office app will be coming to the Touchpad soon. It might have the feature you asked for. At a minimum it seems to have a number of nice featurea (no redlining feature though)




    =================================================
    Picsel UK sent it to me on Aug 29, 2011, 11:45 AM
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    We Listened to You!
    We felt we had to respond to such an overwhelming and positive response from the WebOS community.

    The good news is that we aim to have a Smart Office™ release available on HP's App Catalog within 45 days. We are working closely with HP, we believe in the future of WebOS and we are committed to supporting the platform.
    =================================================
    Last edited by DumbPreCommenter; 08/31/2011 at 08:25 PM.
  10. #50  
    Got an email back from Picsel. Support for track changes is at least months away ("However, support for tracked changes will be a later feature, and we do not have a schedule for that yet. It will be a number of months.")

    ---

    Thank you for your enquiry about Picsel Smart Office on WebOS.

    We have been working hard on our first release, and are nearly ready to release a first version. Depending on approval from HP, it should be listed in the App Catalog in a week or two.

    It will include even more features than were shown in the video demo on YouTube. We have support for viewing and editing Word, Excel and PowerPoint (the only product on WebOS with that level of support); and for viewing PDF and images.

    It can send email messages, open password protected PDFs, run a PowerPoint slide show, load and save files, and many other standard features.

    However, support for tracked changes will be a later feature, and we do not have a schedule for that yet. It will be a number of months.

    We then plan to upgrade it further and release a new version in a number of weeks. This will be a free upgrade to customers.

    Best regards,
    Roger
    Picsel product support

    --

    Disappointing, but expected. I feel better about selling my TP now.
    Last edited by jyknyc; 09/02/2011 at 06:11 PM.
  11. #51  
    I received this email today concerning "redlining" for the Quickoffice. From the way the email sounds, she makes it sound as if Quickoffice as a whole does not support redlining. From what I gleamed from this thread, Quickoffice for other platforms do indeed support redlining.

    Hello,

    Thank you for your message. Quickoffice does not currently support tracking changes, but our product teams want to know what's important to you. Please visit Quickoffice Ideas - by IdeaScale to post a request for this functionality by choosing "Submit New Idea". You may search for other features you'd like to see in future versions of our applications and comment and vote on those features. To vote, choose "Manage Chips".

    On the Quickoffice Ideas site, you can also let us know how our website and our Customer Care team can better assist you.

    We appreciate your feedback.

    Thank you for choosing Quickoffice and have a great day,

    Kristina
    Sr. Customer Care Specialist
    Quickoffice Customer Care
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