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    Those of us that have been using WebOS for a while and have since purchased a TouchPad found a disconcerting fact - a lot of our favorite apps aren't the same. They show up in a small window that's meant to look like a phone. As if loosing all that real estate (for which we paid a premium price) isn't bad enough, some didn't make the cut to "runs on TouchPad" at all, and we can't see them in the App Catalog. A few others seem to run, but do some odd things when using them.

    I know for sure that some of the authors of these apps are frustrated. While we can't fix the lack of being accepted by HP, or rewrite the code for them in Enyo (or at least, most of us can't), we can let the developers know we'd like to see our favorite apps show up on our new favorite device.

    So, here's my proposition: I'm going to keep a running list of apps on this first post that others post about in reply. I'm only going to list the App, with a link to your post. Readers can go to the post for the details.

    If you agree, please "Thank" the person posting. If you're willing to pay for an updated version for the TouchPad; then please "Like" the post that details the app.

    Hopefully, the developers will see enough positive response to what we've liked in the past, and we'll see some of our favorites back; possibly in a "new and improved" format.

    Last edited by hparsons; 07/04/2011 at 01:15 PM.
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    OK, I'll start this off. I gotta have me some Voogle back. I've tweeted Connor LaCombe (the developer) and he says maybe in a month or so. Since that time though, he's been a little put out with HP over some of the new policies about overhauling the developer program. Please, this isn't the forum for those policies, let's just let Connor know that we want to see Voogle, the best, most reliable (and currently only working) Google Voice application for WebOS. And yeah, I'd pay for a new version!
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    Also, I really want to see Done! ReDone! for the TouchPad. When I'm around the house, I'll have the TouchPad in my hand a lot, and I might even break away from it long enough to get some things in my ToodleDo list Done! It'd be nice to be able to marke them off on the TouchPad..
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    My experience is that Enyo allows developers to produce better apps. The UIs are cleaner, they have attractive transitions, and most importantly they are future proof on webOS devices.

    please make the switch!
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    dr.Podder
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    XBL Friends (OIL!!!) but he's super busy so don't bother him.
    Engadget
    Phnx (he's busy though)
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    Feeder! I use this every hour! I practically live in Feeder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew.rosenfelder View Post
    Feeder! I use this every hour! I practically live in Feeder!
    Ditto here.

    I should note that Feeder is open source, and the developer did mention in a Precentral developer spotlight not too long ago that he is probably not going to develop for webOS for a while (maybe the odd bugfix here and there, but no solid development), so that means that Feeder presents a very interesting opportunity for an enterprising developer...

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
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    you can as a developer with a minor bit of quick adjustments (like add a back button, etc), get a mojo app to run fullscreen and mark as touchpad compatible. Someone try : Techtray Lite and What's shaking from the app catalog (runs OK on emulator).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhunterjr View Post
    My experience is that Enyo allows developers to produce better apps. The UIs are cleaner, they have attractive transitions, and most importantly they are future proof on webOS devices.

    please make the switch!
    future proof, until someone at HP decides on a new system called "BOKO" or "MYTO"
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    Quote Originally Posted by abegee View Post
    future proof, until someone at HP decides on a new system called "BOKO" or "MYTO"
    And decides to abruptly drop support for all devices running Enyo, and has a poorly-implemented Enyo emulator so they don't lose all their apps, and decides that BOKO (or MYTO) will initially launch with webOS 4.0 on the HP Toaster and move to other household appliances in the coming months, and tablets and phones in the months after that.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
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    Two apps I use constantly:

    • jVault
    • Scoop

    Thanks!
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    I'm starting to feel left out on my pre-, I dont see any more apps coming my way at all.
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    I wonder how many of these new Enyo apps will run on the Pre 3 or Veer any time soon?

    Full-screen Mojo is what I am writing until I see a release date for Enyo on the Pre 2, Veer and Pre 3.

    -- Rod
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    Music Remix should have already been mentioned! Don't know how I forget how much better it is than the standard.
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    Not saying that they need to all be ported to Enyo (most are PDK anyway), but I'd like to see this long list of apps from my Pre that didn't get installed on my Touchpad to be made compatible, at the very least.

    ancient frog ( i know there's an HD version, but shouldn't I have the option of which I want?)
    asphalt
    astraware board games
    astraware casino
    astraware mahjong
    beamout (again, I know there's an HD version)
    bfg maps
    blokus
    carbon (i believe an Enyo version was announced, but still)
    caveman
    clipboard
    critical mass
    deadman
    feeder
    fittrack
    flightview
    flixster
    foursquare
    frootrees
    glow hockey (HD and free versions show up. Paid phone version doesn't)
    gravity sling
    ground effect pro
    lastpass
    let's golf
    nfl sunday ticket
    need for speed underbround
    oddblob
    oregon trail
    promo codes
    qr decoder
    slacker
    smiles
    splashid
    superjump
    supersonic
    tetris
    the sims
    tiger woods
    tile breaker
    tip'em
    torrentremote
    tradewinds 2
    trivial pursuit
    visualboy advance
    wesnoth
    wifi media sync
    wikihow
    wirc
    youview

    What's really ridiculous is that a bunch of these are Gameloft games, which have always (inaccurately) claimed to be HD for marketing reasons, but now that there's an higher resolution device they're abandoned.
    Last edited by jhoff80; 07/13/2011 at 11:44 AM.
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    I'm sure a lot of them are... It's been a week man...
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    a lot of developer are waiting for more information before converting Mojo apps to Enyo, HP has been very secretive regarding their future plans, and until there is a phone running Enyo, i doubt you will be seeing much more app conversions because rewriting an app for the Touchpad right now is not worth the time if a developer is in it for the money, plus a lot of apps cannot be converted over due to the lack of some features not yet implemented in Enyo or not having a Touchpad to test on, which is a lot to spend on a device which right now would be hard to recover in time spent + revenue earned, it is easy to convert a Mojo app to fullscreen but a lot of paid Mojo apps by now get so little new downloads that there's not much motivatino to do so, plus the Ad companies like AdMob provide webos with like the worst type of ads that there's just not a lot of motivation to rewrite Mojo apps as far as for making a profit

    on a side note, developing for Enyo is a lot less time consuming than in Mojo, and code that took about 2000 lines in Mojo I could have done with about 1000 lines in Enyo, however, most of the code will have to be completely rewritten
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    My app is not on the list (not many users) but I'm a hobby developer, and it was a fairly substantial amount of work to learn how things work in Mojo. The thought of converting that over to Enyo is daunting. I'll get to it at some point, and it's probably not as difficult as it seems, but this is not a trivial thing. So go easy on the developers. We need some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    I wonder how many of these new Enyo apps will run on the Pre 3 or Veer any time soon?

    Full-screen Mojo is what I am writing until I see a release date for Enyo on the Pre 2, Veer and Pre 3.

    -- Rod
    I also believe this is the best and fastest way to satisfy TouchPad users - not just those of us with hundreds of phone apps, but to make the App Catalog a little more attractive to the new buyers. If those new users pick an app, open it and get that 1-rotation only emulator screen and have no idea what to do with a gesture area, we're going to lose a lot of potential users and get a lot more bad word of mouth.

    I'm only a developer of my own stuff that doesn't quite work, but I've gone in and added the line to allow it to be full screen and added Close or Back buttons as needed so I can use it on my TouchPad. I'm having trouble with the Help scene but I'm betting some more time spent in the Palm and the Developer forums here will answer that question for me.

    HP/Palm stickied a post in their forums about adding that line of code but they need to notify every developer in the App Catalog details with screen shots or something so it will be easy for them all to see the value in taking an hour or two out of their day to do those updates.

    Keep up the good work all you developers whether Mojo or Enyo!

    Cheers, Clarice

    edit: in fact HP should offer some sort of bonus or credit to those developers for each app they update as motivation!
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