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    HP Says WebOS TouchPad Will Differ From Tablet Rivals
    By Kevin McLaughlin, CRN
    May 18, 2011 11:35 AM ET



    Hewlett-Packard is entering a crowded, bustling market with its WebOS TouchPad, but HP believes it can offer a tablet user experience that's unique from the iPad and its hordes of clones.

    HP's $1.2 billion acquisition of Palm last April gave the company an instant presence in the mobile space, but the primary motivation was to eventually integrate WebOS across mobile devices and various other HP products, Grant Duke, WebOS specialist at HP, said Tuesday in a presentation at solution provider Camera Corner/Connecting Point's Technology Expo 2011 in Green Bay, Wisc.

    "There are a lot of mobile devices out there, and many more coming. What none of them do is talk to each other," Duke said. "They talk to the Web but they donít talk to each other, and WebOS provides the background for that to happen."

    When HP launches the Pre3 and TouchPad sometime this summer, users will be able to share URL-based content between devices by touching them together. For customers that buy a Pre3 and a TouchPad, if a text message or phone call comes in while the phone is charging, it will be routed automatically to the tablet, Duke explained.

    While the TouchPad has many of the same features as the iPad, HP is positioning it as a device thatís suitable for both business and personal use. WebOS supports up to 16 Microsoft Exchange accounts on a single device and uses Quickoffice for compatibility with Microsoft Office docs, Duke said. Support for Citrix Receiver and IPSEC/Cisco AnyConnect VPN is also part of the package.

    HP has designed notifications and alerts in WebOS to be unobtrusive, which is important for a device that people are going to be using to get work done. Alerts tend to take over the user experience, but in WebOS, when a text message comes in, it will display at the top of the screen on the TouchPad, and the bottom on the Pre3, with the work area remaining uncluttered, Duke said.

    The TouchPad's virtual keyboard is also adjustable between small, medium and large to account for varying finger sizes, he said.

    At launch, the TouchPad will come pre-loaded with print drivers for every HP printer model released since 2006. It will also be compatible with HP's ePrint service, which prints to certain HP printers by sending an email to their email address, Duke said. "We designed WebOS to scale to multiple screen sizes. It's always going to work the same way no matter what device we put it into," he said.

    HP is coming on strong in mobile applications, currently boasting more than 7,000 WebOS apps on its App Catalog. That pales in comparison with Apple and Android, but Duke said the essential mobile applications will be available to TouchPad customers at launch. "TouchPad has all the apps that most customers use most of the time," he said.

    HP still faces an uphill climb, however. Many HP partners are interested in WebOS but are waiting to see what kind of demand materializes around the TouchPad before they invest in mobile application development.

    In 2012, HP will ship WebOS on every PC, giving developers access to a user base of around 60 million, Duke said. HP hasn't said much about how this would enhance the customer experience, but Duke said it's not something Microsoft needs to be worried about. "This isn't about replacing Windows on the desktop," he said."WebOS will augment Windows and enable users to interact with their mobile devices through their PCs."

    TouchPad will be Wi-Fi-only at launch, with cellular connectivity through carriers to follow at some undefined point in the future. During a Q&A, Duke was asked if HP would partner with multiple carriers for the TouchPad and responded that this is "probably the vision."

    HP's WebOS TouchPad will be available "this summer" and pricing is to be announced.

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    What they consider 'essential apps" and what we as users consider essential apps are most of the time 2 different things. If they are making a shot at the Playbook because of the lack of email they are making a big mistake
    In a world of droid, Pre does it better.

    Shouldn't we treat this world like the Garden of Eden and avoid the apple at all costs?
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    "that most customers use most of the time",

    so take a look at the top apps on Apple and Android and let us know what you find (I'm pressed for time right now or I would do it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Payne View Post
    What they consider 'essential apps" and what we as users consider essential apps are most of the time 2 different things. If they are making a shot at the Playbook because of the lack of email they are making a big mistake
    Absolutely. This can also be seen as response to BB and its lack of PIM apps. Is MLB At Bat essential? Not at all, but I want it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UntidyGuy View Post
    "TouchPad has all the apps that most customers use most of the time"

    Interesting statement. That leaves out some of the apps that most customers use some of the time and most of the apps that some customers use all of the time.
    Say that sentence 5x without stumbling, a nice tongue twister.
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    Top grossing iPad apps for 2010:

    Pages - word processor
    Numbers - spreadsheet
    Keynote - presentation (powerpointish)
    LogMeIn Ignition - remote desktop
    Documents To Go Premium - office document viewer
    Proloquo2Go - AAC

    The rest are games.

    SCRABBLE for iPad
    Angry Birds HD
    Real Racing HD
    Plants vs. Zombies HD
    Last edited by blinktreo; 05/18/2011 at 01:41 PM.
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    All-Time Top Paid iPad Apps:
    SoundHound
    StickWars
    FlightTrack
    Backbreaker Football
    Calorie Tracker
    BlocksClassic
    iFart Mobile
    GoodReader for iPad
    Cro-Mag Rally
    Ambiance

    All-Time Top Free iPad Apps:
    Pandora
    Google Mobile App
    Movies by Flixster
    Google Earth
    Yelp
    Fandango Movies
    Remote
    iBooks
    Bible
    Solitaire
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    I find the above very surprising. I use the iPad almost exclusively at home these days, and have a ton of apps. Paid and free. And I use them all the time.

    But I only have exactly three of the apps listed above:
    Pandora, Yelp, iBooks

    (off of Blinktreo's list, I have AngryBirds and Doc2Go premium)


    An app store has to serve a "long tail" indeed.
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    To me, the reader apps are what are essential:
    The Economist
    Zinio
    Nature.com
    PLoS reader
    ... and many others.

    None of those are available on webOS. The other stuff, such as email & games can easily be done on my Pre, why would I need a tablet for that?

    The iPad has a far worse user interface then the Touchpad (yes, I really wish to have the cards interface and notifications on my iPad), but the essential apps are what makes it actually useful.
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    I really am pushing for a RDP program as an essential app I would be able to leave laptop at home!! It would be so nice to be able to restart a server from my touchpad.
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    the top grossing apps dont suprise me at all. i think a fact that we often over look is that we probably dont represent the typical consumer. i'm willing to bet if someone timed how long each mobile app was used across all devices and users we'd find: browser, document editor/ viewer, photo, and messaging clients. 3rd party you'll see netflix, pandora, remote desktop, youtube, twitter. games you'll see angry birds and words with friends.

    a huge app catalog would be nice, but most users get a few core apps and use them to death.

    android and ios have a lot of cool apps that are downloaded and used only until the wow factor wears off. an astronomy app looks cool, but very few people are going to base their tablet purchase on it.
    Last edited by Mhunterjr; 05/18/2011 at 02:29 PM.
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    What about netflix thats a big one for me. Its one of my mot used apps and im sure many people use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UntidyGuy View Post
    "TouchPad has all the apps that most customers use most of the time"

    Interesting statement. That leaves out some of the apps that most customers use some of the time and most of the apps that some customers use all of the time.
    agreed. Everyone has some odd thing they would really value an app for. Currently iOS and android will have an app for it 99% of the time. I'll be generous and say webOS will be there for them 50% of the time. It's really that simple.

    people want astronomy apps, angling apps, dj apps, knitting apps etc etc.
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    The article I pulled my lists from (TechCrunch) made the point that, for the iPad at least, the notable missing app was Facebook.

    Facebook still does not have an official app for the iPad - which I think is odd.

    There are several other though, it just fragments it. I wonder if they didn't think the iPad would take off, and got behind the 8 ball?
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    I know I'll never buy into an OS if there's not an iFart app! Essential!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexalbel View Post
    What about netflix thats a big one for me. Its one of my mot used apps and im sure many people use it.
    Netflix is huge. If TouchPad has it, I'll buy it. If not, I won't.

    I can work around limited music options, we know Kindle is there, Google Docs online can do basic doc editing, Enyo email, calendar, messaging look good, social networking is decently covered, and there's always some other game to play. However, there is no real substitute for Netflix, especially with kids. I'm not going to regularly buy, rip, or steal movies and then re-encode them for the TouchPad, but it seems stupid to have this 10" tablet with no way to watch movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finngirl View Post
    The article I pulled my lists from (TechCrunch) made the point that, for the iPad at least, the notable missing app was Facebook.

    Facebook still does not have an official app for the iPad - which I think is odd.

    There are several other though, it just fragments it. I wonder if they didn't think the iPad would take off, and got behind the 8 ball?
    FB doesn't have a app for the Ipad bc FB's owner said last Nov or Dec that a tablet doesn't need a FB app bc you can fully utilize the FB site from apad versus a phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UntidyGuy View Post
    There is simply no such thing as the list of essential apps. There is my list, your list, next guy's list, and his sister's list. And, I don't know about you, but my list changes on a weekly basis. I guess that's why supermarkets have 20,000 different items even though most of us eat the same things most of the time and kids just eat chicken nuggets.
    Classic case of not being able to please everyone. So in that case you try to get the 'important' consumer facing apps. That would be your Netflix, Kindle, several dvr apps from various multichannel providers, a doc editor, & news apps. In my mind that's about 20 essential apps.

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    Another piece of important info from the article that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere is the TP will allow for 16 Exchange accts and will have printer drivers for all HP printers dating back to 2006. That is pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UntidyGuy View Post
    There is simply no such thing as the list of essential apps. There is my list, your list, next guy's list, and his sister's list. And, I don't know about you, but my list changes on a weekly basis. I guess that's why supermarkets have 20,000 different items even though most of us eat the same things most of the time and kids just eat chicken nuggets.
    you gotta look at it from a statistical point of view. if you cant please everyone at once, you're next best bet is to make sure that most people are mostly satisfied.

    you're saying that if it isnt comparable to super walmarts inventory its a bust. HP is saying that if your're going to open a market, it BETTER have decent dairy, meat, and vegetable sections on day one. the niche items can come later.
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