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  1.    #41  
    Thanks StevenX.

    There were originally plans to include a tube map in the app, but looking at downloads of the free version (about 2.5K), the cost of the tube map (750GBP) and the average conversion rate of free to paid for apps in the catalogue a paid version wasn't going to cover it, so I released all the features for free, which means it won't have a tube map unfortunately. I don't have any plans to create a paid version at this point, the name is mostly because I couldn't be bothered changing it .

    I suppose if HP's current plans work out and WebOS becomes popular, I might have a paid version eventually. For what it's worth around 150-200 people hit the server each day at the moment, it'll be interesting to see what impact the release of the veer will have, if it sees a decent up tick I might turn on the ads and see if that'll eventually cover the map, though I doubt it.

    Other than the map for my own use there's nothing else I'd like the app to do at this point, so I'm intending to keep it up to date with any changes in the underground, but mostly work on other projects. Is there something specific you'd like to see?
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    I don't think so, really. I just wondered what the future plans were for the app.

    Something I like in another app is a "fast router", in TubeInfo. I know you purposefully used the TfL Journey Planner webview, but the quickrouter in Tube Info is useful for routing undeground. It'd be nice to have something like that integrated into LTS just for the tube, for when we're already underground.

    Another thing I was thinking of was some way of setting a "Home" station or postcode... Perhaps autofilling the info in the Journey Planner so that you don't have to go through the address lookup step. Not sure how it'd be achieved whilst still keeping the field editable, but it'd be a nice touch.

    Neither thing is a big deal though; for the first I have TubeInfo and the second is a very minor thing - just some minor musings I had earlier!

    Speaking of TubeInfo, it has a tube map. Any ideas how it achieves that? I wouldn't imagine the dev pays the 750 you mention.
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    There are two reasons why I keep TubeInfo on my Pre. Firstly because of the map, but secondly because the Tube route planner works without a signal, handy when 'underground' :-)
    I still use London Tube Service most of the time.
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    Any plan to add National Rail services?
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    Sorry for the delayed response, haven't been lurking here for a while.

    StevenX/ChasT: I've thought about adding an offline router, but to create one that gives good results would mean a lot of time consuming testing and tweaking of the cost algorithms. The TFL planner has the detailed cost information about interchanges and so gives you the best routes, for example if you put 'Baker Street' to 'Canary Wharf' in to tubeinfo's router it makes a couple of changes only to end up back on the Jubilee line again since the algorithm is looking for the shortest path and doesn't have access to all the extra info the TFL router has about how long interchanges take at each station.

    To make the algorithm better than the one in tubeinfo would take a long time and since I give the app away for free I can't really justify the amount of time it'd take, sorry.

    As for the map, it appears to be a grab from one of the PDF versions of the tube map... some tube apps (for other phone platforms) appear to do this too, but I'd rather not risk it in my own app.

    kiukiukiu: I don't have any plans to add National Rail services, mostly due to time constraints. Though having a quick look at the data feeds available it should be fairly straightforward to create an app like London Tube Service for the National Rail network, so hopefully another London based developer will pick it up .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmarshall View Post
    kiukiukiu: I don't have any plans to add National Rail services, mostly due to time constraints. Though having a quick look at the data feeds available it should be fairly straightforward to create an app like London Tube Service for the National Rail network, so hopefully another London based developer will pick it up .
    There's already a (limited in functionality) one available actually! See http://www.precentral.net/national-rail-status
  7.    #47  
    Unfortunately that one has been discontinued, see MobileTeck - Mobile Application specialists.

    Looks like mobileteck are building an app for the underground though, hopefully it'll have a good offline planner .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmarshall View Post
    Unfortunately that one has been discontinued, see MobileTeck - Mobile Application specialists.

    Looks like mobileteck are building an app for the underground though, hopefully it'll have a good offline planner .
    Shame, I have it downloaded and it's actually pretty handy despite its limited functionality. Quicker than jumping into a browser. I'll make sure to back it up in case I should have any problems and need to doctor or something I think!
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    The Journey Planner page wouldn't load on my Pre3
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    The journey planner page doesn't work on the TouchPad since webOS 3 doesn't support the Mojo WebView (I'm actually 'fixing' that right now by removing it, I'm also enabling fullscreen mode, so it's not all bad...), but I think it should work on webOS 2.x. Does it just come up with a blank page (which is what the TouchPad does) or does it animate the spinner but nothing load?

    I didn't manage to grab a Pre 3 in the firesale (did get a TouchPad though ), so I can't test it here on a real device, but I'd be interested if anyone else with a Pre 3 or Veer has the same problem?
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    Yep, it comes up as a blank page, I'm guessing something on the Pre3 OS has changed in line with the TP OS.
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    I've just pushed a new version of the beta app (0.9.11) to H/Palm. It'll take a day or two to become available, but if people who managed to pick up a Pre 3 could give the tyres a kick and let me know if anything falls off that'd be good, since I can only test it in the emulator.

    What's changed:
    - On the Pre 3 and TouchPad the journey planner will now load in a separate browser card (the mobile version of the site for the Pre 3 and the desktop version for the TouchPad). After looking around at the documentation and the debug logs, I couldn't see anything about how to fix the webview. H/Palm have previously said that the webview on webOS 3 is broken, so I guess it is for the Pre 3 / webOS 2.2 as well. If anyone happens to know a way of getting it to work, please let me know.
    - The app will now display full screen (with a back button) on the TouchPad.

    Also, for anyone that's noticed the metropolitan line is showing up twice, there's an issue with the upstream server that I pull the status updates from (http://api.tubeupdates.com/?method=g...tus&format=xml). Since the app is just displaying the data, it shows up twice. I've emailed Ben (the person who kindly provides the service), hopefully he'll fix it soon. If not then I'll update the server component of the app so it's hidden.

    As normal the beta app will work until the end of next month (31 Oct), by then I'll have pushed an update for the free version of the app. If you've got any feedback then please leave a post here or a comment at WebOS Apps - Home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmarshall View Post
    I've just pushed a new version of the beta app (0.9.11) to H/Palm. It'll take a day or two to become available, but if people who managed to pick up a Pre 3 could give the tyres a kick and let me know if anything falls off that'd be good, since I can only test it in the emulator.

    What's changed:
    - On the Pre 3 and TouchPad the journey planner will now load in a separate browser card (the mobile version of the site for the Pre 3 and the desktop version for the TouchPad). After looking around at the documentation and the debug logs, I couldn't see anything about how to fix the webview. H/Palm have previously said that the webview on webOS 3 is broken, so I guess it is for the Pre 3 / webOS 2.2 as well. If anyone happens to know a way of getting it to work, please let me know.
    - The app will now display full screen (with a back button) on the TouchPad.

    Also, for anyone that's noticed the metropolitan line is showing up twice, there's an issue with the upstream server that I pull the status updates from (http://api.tubeupdates.com/?method=g...tus&format=xml). Since the app is just displaying the data, it shows up twice. I've emailed Ben (the person who kindly provides the service), hopefully he'll fix it soon. If not then I'll update the server component of the app so it's hidden.

    As normal the beta app will work until the end of next month (31 Oct), by then I'll have pushed an update for the free version of the app. If you've got any feedback then please leave a post here or a comment at WebOS Apps - Home.
    If you need a Pre 3 to test out, I can lend out my Pre 3 for a few hours during the weekend. I am in southwest London
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    Awww, everyone seems to have picked up a Pre 3 except me .

    Thanks for the offers to borrow a Pre 3, but since it behaves the same way in the emulator as people have described, I don't need to run it up on real hardware to test it (unless someone comes up with an issue that I can't reproduce in the emulator).

    The beta version of the app has turned up on H/Palm's servers, if anyone with a Pre 3 (or a touchpad) would like to test it out:
    https://developer.palm.com/appredire...beservice.beta
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmarshall View Post
    Awww, everyone seems to have picked up a Pre 3 except me .

    Thanks for the offers to borrow a Pre 3, but since it behaves the same way in the emulator as people have described, I don't need to run it up on real hardware to test it (unless someone comes up with an issue that I can't reproduce in the emulator).

    The beta version of the app has turned up on H/Palm's servers, if anyone with a Pre 3 (or a touchpad) would like to test it out:
    https://developer.palm.com/appredire...beservice.beta
    Yep, the button now works and loads the tfl journey planner. It's a shame the planner isn't an offline planner though so you can view routes while actually underground - TFL actually have a developer site which includes the route data.

    BTW, if you're thinking of developing the above, Tube for PalmOS had a nice way of showing the route (as well as just listing it) where it scrolled the tube map as if the center of the screen was actually taking the journey.
  16.    #56  
    I've just pushed another version of the beta to H/Palm's servers, as always it'll probably take a day or so to appear. What's changed:
    - The journey planner browser card on the Pre 3 and TouchPad will now be opened without trying to transition to the journey planner scene within the app. This means the card opens a bit faster and the app stays on what ever scene you were on (rather than going back to the main status view).
    - Added the stations on the new DLR extension.

    If nobody reports any issues with the beta I'll update the free version this weekend.
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