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  1. #121  
    Quote Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post
    ... That's just as bad as using an anagrammer, in my book, if there's no way for people you've beaten to win their money back.
    I disagree. Any good poker player will tell you that when one player has significantly more money than the others, he has a distinct advantage. Leaving and rejoining the table levels the playing field. Besides, we're playing with funny money, so there's really no such thing as winning your money back.
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  2. #122  
    Quote Originally Posted by monkeydog View Post
    This morning on the train I played four hands with a player named MrvlsSprHro. I won one and he won three. His winning words were 'kex', 'tophi', and 'akene'. I asked him what a 'kex' was and he said "I don't know, I just play alot" and "I've seen lots of wild words".

    You be the judge.

    Suggestion to selfawaregames: I recommend a player rating, like ebay's seller rating, where users get rated by their fellow players. Honest players get a thumbs up, cheaters get a thumbs down. You could accumulate these ratings and give each user an icon or score or something that tells us if we're playing with respected players or those of questionable ethics. I love this game and don't want to see it ruined by cheaters.
    Hey, all. So, cheating is something we're keenly aware of, and we're looking at a variety of ways to deal with them.

    Right now, the best way to ensure you can find a good, honest game to play, is to "friend" people that you enjoy playing with. Once you build up a repertoire of friends, joining their game is as simple as clicking on the Friend button from the title screen, seeing who's online, and clicking "join table" when you select an online friend.

    It's not ideal - we're aware of that, and we're working on things both for the next update, and what we can do on the back-end side. While it's impossible for us to distinguish between an extraordinary word game player and someone who's cheating, there are definitely things we can do to make it more difficult for blatant cheaters.

    We're working on it.
    Thanks.
    seppo
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    #123  
    I can explain splitting with the 0...sort of. It just happened to me.

    In my situation, it me against one other person in the end. His word was a fail, so he lost automatically. In my hand, I somehow missed to "use this word". Therefore my score was zero...aka 0.

    So MAYBE there are other situations, especially on split pots, all ins, etc, you did indeed split a pot with a 0
  4. #124  
    Quote Originally Posted by vga4life View Post
    Given that the dictionary and card distribution is known (to selfawaregames, at least), it should be trivial to compute the highest and lowest scoring possible words; I wonder what they are?
    Replying to myself now that the card distribution is published on http://selfawaregames.com/blog -

    The lowest scoring word has to be SEES with all-backwards cards, for a score of -8.

    EDIT - According to seppo, Word Ace uses the Tournament Word List used for Scrabble tournaments in the US and Canada, so the highest scoring word is WAXWORK, for 49 points (29 for the letters + 20 point bonus.)
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  5. #125  
    Quote Originally Posted by monkeydog View Post
    I disagree. Any good poker player will tell you that when one player has significantly more money than the others, he has a distinct advantage. Leaving and rejoining the table levels the playing field. Besides, we're playing with funny money, so there's really no such thing as winning your money back.
    Yes, I could stay at the table and play Bully Big-stack but other decent players tend to shy away from tables with someone so far ahead of the buy-in - I know I do. Knowing when to walk away from a table is part of the game.
  6. #126  
    Quote Originally Posted by vga4life View Post
    Replying to myself now that the card distribution is published on http://selfawaregames.com/blog -

    The lowest scoring word has to be SEES with all-backwards cards, for a score of -8.

    The highest possible scoring word, assuming they're using SOWPODS (the standard wordlist for English-language international Scrabble tournaments - I think they're using it because I've seen 'QIS' win a hand) is SQUAWKY for 49 points (29 points for the letters + 20 point bonus), or so my quick-and-dirty perl script tells me.
    Haha. Awesome. SEES is certainly the lowest-scoring word, but we're using TWL, not SOWPODS, so SQUAWKY, unfortunately, isn't in the dictionary! Great to see a post like this, though!

    Our current highest-scoring words are ASPHYXY and JAWBONE, both at 42 points, so they're pretty close to the max.

    Cheers!
    seppo
  7. #127  
    Quote Originally Posted by dpb View Post
    I just had a guy come into my game (NewUser of course, level 1 experience) and split the pot with the guy who won. He had gone all in at the flop, which was conspicuous given the cards on the table.

    The odd part was that the word he spelled was either 0 (zero) or O (oh). I couldn't really tell. I tried to take a screen shot, but I was too slow!

    I asked if he cheated in the chat window, but he left without answering (no surprise).

    Thought you all might like to know. I'm sure that the Word Ace folks would love a screenshot if someone else catches this guy.
    Like someone else said, you can split the pot with 0 if the other player also has 0, which means neither player spelled a word. If someone spells an *invalid* word, they automatically lose, and *can't* split the pot. So a 0 is a better play than a garbage word.

    Thanks for keeping an eye out. If you do see a case of a 0 beating a valid word, if you can get a screen of it, that'd be super-helpful.

    Thanks!
    seppo
  8. #128  
    Quote Originally Posted by selfawaregames View Post
    Haha. Awesome. SEES is certainly the lowest-scoring word, but we're using TWL, not SOWPODS, so SQUAWKY, unfortunately, isn't in the dictionary! Great to see a post like this, though!

    Our current highest-scoring words are ASPHYXY and JAWBONE, both at 42 points, so they're pretty close to the max.
    Yeah, those aren't far off - using TWL, looks like the ultimate word is WAXWORK for 49 points.
  9. #129  
    Looks like Word Ace is the exclusive domain of Pre owners for only a few more hours. It's officially been approved by Apple, so if you wanna defend the Pre's good name, you're gonna have to start taking down iPhone owners!

    seppo
  10. #130  
    One suggestion for dealing with cheaters would be for the authors to have an annagram solver in the back-end that keeps track of how many times a user wins with the best possible word in the dictionary for their given letters.

    Combine this with other pattern based statistics and a cheat-ranking could be established for each user which would give the admins an idea of who the possible / likely cheaters are so that they can keep an eye on them and issue warning messages etc.
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    #131  
    I had jawbone once.
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    #132  
    I just put it on my old iPhone...which has the phone deactivated, so I use it kinda like an iTouch.

    It's a great program. I noticed it has help cues. A really nice feature is that it virbrates when it's my turn.

    Thanks, You guys rock!
  13. #133  
    Quote Originally Posted by monkeydog View Post
    I disagree. Any good poker player will tell you that when one player has significantly more money than the others, he has a distinct advantage. Leaving and rejoining the table levels the playing field. Besides, we're playing with funny money, so there's really no such thing as winning your money back.
    I guess I'm in the minority where I find it much more fun to battle back against someone who's got a huge chip lead.

    And the part about a poker player having an advantage with more money doesn't apply so much when you pretty much have a steady supply of money when you hit $0. Besides that, while I love the game, I feel that it's much less strategic than actual poker. 9 times out of 10 the best strategy in this is to see all the cards and then decide what to do, because even if you have an awesome word with 6 cards, it might be horrible compared to the 7 card word.
  14. #134  
    Quote Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post
    I guess I'm in the minority where I find it much more fun to battle back against someone who's got a huge chip lead.

    And the part about a poker player having an advantage with more money doesn't apply so much when you pretty much have a steady supply of money when you hit $0. Besides that, while I love the game, I feel that it's much less strategic than actual poker. 9 times out of 10 the best strategy in this is to see all the cards and then decide what to do, because even if you have an awesome word with 6 cards, it might be horrible compared to the 7 card word.
    Heh. I get what you mean. It's definitely more to your advantage to see the flop, or see the cards through to the end, if not everyone's "betting strategically," but as you play more, and you start to really get a feel for what hole cards are strong, and which ones are weaker, betting strategy starts to be more important to racking up chips or not losing your stack.

    If you're playing against a lot of skillful players, I think it's every bit as strategic (and occasionally really terrifying) as poker.

    But it's definitely a different game, and you take different things into account. Poker's almost all about the betting, while in Word Ace, it's more like 60% word, 40% betting.

    But when my wife & I would play, she'd beat me word-wise, but I'd wipe the floor with her 'cause I'd bet smarter.

    seppo
  15. #135  
    Some of the words people use in this game are hilarious. I swear they are sitting there with a dictionary opened some times then others are just messing around.

    It's all good till one gets all vowels. Kind of funny watching the AI fail with "not a word" in practice mode.
  16. #136  
    FWIW, table talk has gotten a bit nasty. The last few days I've seen some ugly sexual harassment going on at several tables I've joined. A mute player option would be nice.
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    #137  
    Personally, I wish there was a higher priority on dumping people who take too much time.

    (on a regular basis)
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    #138  
    Quote Originally Posted by Templarian View Post
    Some of the words people use in this game are hilarious. I swear they are sitting there with a dictionary opened some times then others are just messing around.
    Why a dictionary. You have a multi-tasking phone with a browser that can surf to Dictionary.com
  19. #139  
    Hey, all - I know it's a little silly, but I did want to say, "Thanks."

    You guys were among the very first to play the game, gave some really excellent feedback, some of which is already being incorporated into the next update, and have been a really great group to interact with! I hope you're still having fun with the game! It's live on the iPhone, now, as I'm sure you can tell.

    Oh! And we just did an interview about Word Ace & the Pre, though I'm not sure I should link to another Pre-related site from here! :O (Happy to talk to precentral folks if they want to talk to us any time!)

    Anyway - thanks again, and see you online!
    seppo
  20. #140  
    Oh! A non-platform-related interview was also put up last night here:

    Developer Interview: Self Aware Games of Taxiball and Word Ace The Current Gamer

    If you're interested in a little bit of the development of Word Ace, it's worth a read (I hope!)...

    Thanks!
    seppo
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