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    I haven't seen it mentioned here, but TamsPalm is doing a series of interviews with longtime Garnet developers to get their opinions on whats announced of the Palm SDK so far. As far as I can tell, none of these people have inside information, but its interesting to see the range of reactions, from very bitter (RNS) to very excited (GX5).

    Handydev: http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...from-handydev/
    ShSh: http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...shsh-software/
    Iambic: http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...aretta-iambic/
    RNS: http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...law-nowak-rns/
    Styletap: http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...loff-styletap/
    Resco: http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...-pomsar-resco/
    GX5: http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...ji-afonja-gx5/
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    Thanks for the diggin this up
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    Interesting speculation (though some developers hadn't really taken the time to study the information available). I thought Iambic's comments were the most on the ball.
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    Nowak, to my mind, shows a very poor understanding of the market. An updated OS built on compatibility with the old P-OS would have been the kiss of death for Palm. I'm sorry that all his apps have to applicability to WebOS, but the P-OS would be dead even if Palm did try to revive it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    Nowak, to my mind, shows a very poor understanding of the market. An updated OS built on compatibility with the old P-OS would have been the kiss of death for Palm. I'm sorry that all his apps have to applicability to WebOS, but the P-OS would be dead even if Palm did try to revive it.
    I agree entirely, he's just bitter about everything and that's coloring his statements more than anything else. I just figured I'd post the interview links without commenting very much until a few other people responded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    Nowak, to my mind, shows a very poor understanding of the market. An updated OS built on compatibility with the old P-OS would have been the kiss of death for Palm. I'm sorry that all his apps have to applicability to WebOS, but the P-OS would be dead even if Palm did try to revive it.
    I don't know a lot about Palm OS. I had one Palm OS phone a few years ago, and didn't buy a whole lot of software for it. But it seems to me that RNS made software that essentially put lipstick on a pig. Now that Palm came out with a cheetah, he's bitter that the pig is left in the mud.
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    rhody hit the nail on the head, rns apps all benefit from in-depth knowledge of palm os and how it functions. i was actually hoping the same as him, that the next palm os would kind of have the same concepts as far as file structure and handling. oh well though, i'm up for learning/picking apart a new OS
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    Anybody making money from PalmOS's deficiencies shouldn't be surprised to lose it with the advent of the Pre. It would be very disappointing if the Pre didn't correct almost all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phwelo View Post
    rhody hit the nail on the head, rns apps all benefit from in-depth knowledge of palm os and how it functions. i was actually hoping the same as him, that the next palm os would kind of have the same concepts as far as file structure and handling. oh well though, i'm up for learning/picking apart a new OS
    The P-OS has so many limitations based on the file and database structure that any OS that maintained those structures would be crippled. And any OS that eliminated those restrictions would probably break most of the apps written for the old OS.

    Sometimes a clean break is necessary. Windows has so much baggage for backwards compatibility it's far more complicated than it needs to be. I can't help but think Vista would be a far better OS if MS had simply abandoned backwards compatibility. But that's a lot harder to do when you have 100's of millions of users than when you have a million or two.
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    Just wanted to say they have a new interview up there, with MobileStream:

    http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...mobile-stream/

    Basically, they think it looks like a good device, but their 'areas of expertise are not needed' for it.
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    I liked this bit:

    "Anything you would like to add
    It is not connected with the interview questions. Just in the past year we all thought that after Christmas Palm software sales would drop dramatically. It did not happen. In some cases there is a small decrease, but generally they remained constant. There are still many purchasers with Palm Centro. So for us there is still old good Palm."
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    think about it. A lot of Palm 3rd party software is there to fill in where Palm Os is lacking.

    Most of the (great) apps from shsh, hobbyst, RNS, Resco, MobileStream, Softick, etc. won't be needed on WebOs.

    If WebOs is well designed, then why would i need takephone, audiogateway, cardreader, 2day, munduIm, Hi-Launcher, Chatter, PowerHero, PhoneTechnician, RollOver, RescoExplorer, QuickMemos... ???
    and that's only citing apps that i have bought and i like...

    I'm pretty sure once they get their hands on the SDK most of the bitterness will go away and start to develop new applications for new needs
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    Need: Pocket Quicken, Local Backup and recovery "off network," VPN, secure encrypted sync'ing, etc.

    The interview's over a month old, but reading Iambic's take was interesting. They didn't seem "gung ho" about developing for the Pre, though they probably will. Doesn't appear that even the bigger developers that have kept Palm in business over the years have been getting much appreciation in the form of information.

    If the Pre's going to be anything more than a flashier way to check email, surf the web and play music, Palm had better be paying attention to the needs of developers. Palm has announced a sudden end to viability of tens of thousands of applications created over the past 13 years. They'd better give these Developers some reason to stick around after making all their work suddenly obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joad View Post
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    They'd better give these Developers some reason to stick around after making all their work suddenly obsolete.
    Unfortunately a lot of the work of some of them IS obsolete because, as oronzous pointed out, may programs address Garnet deficiencies which should not be present in WebOS.

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