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  1. skyrdr234's Avatar
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    Most of the posts to this point have speculated the screen resolution on the Treo 700w to be 240x240. It has been stated by some that Windows Mobile will not do 320x320. Since this is Windows Mobile 5, has that limitation been overcome. It doesn't seem that there should be any reason why it couldn't do 320x320 in a new version. Microsoft was clear in taking action to allow for different resolutions for a while now.
    I would be interested in the 700w as long as the hardware advanced in the area of EV-Do, software, and memory, but it would seem to be a significant step backward to drop screen resolution that dramatically.

    320x320 = 102,400 pixels

    240x240 = 57,600 pixels

    Pixel Loss = 44,800 pixels or a 43.75% loss of resolution
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    I think engadget has confirmed it.
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    Yes, step back in time half-way to the Treo 600 160x160 - now where did I put my bifocals?
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrauss
    now where did I put my bifocals?
    Because the text is smaller, or fuzzier? Those bifocals will only help with smaller.
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    Nobody has confirmed it, but it's a safe guess. Engadget themselves said they were NOT 100% sure. 240x240 is probably the most likely, but until someone comes out with real stats (and show's me the link) i won't be 100% sure either (closer to 90%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupe
    Because the text is smaller, or fuzzier? Those bifocals will only help with smaller.
    Guess what I was thinking was the emulator routine. If I want to use any of my Palm software in the emulator, it will be "squished" to a 160x160 window inside the "240x240" WM5 window - just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrauss
    Guess what I was thinking was the emulator routine. If I want to use any of my Palm software in the emulator, it will be "squished" to a 160x160 window inside the "240x240" WM5 window - just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
    Good one. Just like watching a widescreen movie in mmplayer on a 600.
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    I wonder if the screen itslef is capable of 320x320. Is this a hardware or software limitiation or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robber
    I wonder if the screen itslef is capable of 320x320. Is this a hardware or software limitiation or both?

    -rob
    I'm pretty sure if it's designed to run 240x240 via software, the screen will be 240x240 native resolution as well, otherwise if they used a 320x320 native res screen with a 240x240 signal you'd really hurt the clarity of the picture due to pixels being stretched across crystals.
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    These are from the WM emulator in 320x320 and 320x480. Its not a limitation of the OS. It can run in nearly any resolution. Its a WM standard, and developers and OEM's need standards to design to.

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    I think that with WM 5 it either has to be 240x240 or 480x480. Thus, it is a safe bet that this device will have the lower resolution. However, I don't see this as being to bad at all, since the screen will definitely be quite sharp. I have an i-mate Jam that has the normal 240x320 PPC screen and it is nice and crisp with its small 2.8" screen, whereas the devices with the 3.5" screen and the same resolution are slightly fuzzy. The 650 wasn't really making great use of the 320x320 resolution anyways so it isn't a devastating loss.

    However, if this thing only has 64mb ROM, that will be devastating!
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    Just *once*, can't Palm release something unequivocably better in all ways than its predecessor? Or have we reached a wall where every good feature (EVDO) must be traded off against some bad one or changed one (Windows Mobile, 240x240 screen).

    I use TomTom constantly, and it DOES use the 320x320 screen. I'll have a much smaller nav map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougKoz
    Just *once*, can't Palm release something unequivocably better in all ways than its predecessor?...
    No.

    And the longer explanation is:

    1. Lack of development dollars.
    2. Need to keep MSRP below $600 (so they can hook new customers with 2 year carrier contracts for $349 retail).
    3. There'd be fewer models (and fewer upgrade dollars).
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
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    TomTom runs on 240x240 in the hp 65xx and 67xx's, so it's not the end of the world there.

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    I really hope it's the 320x320 screen with stretched pixels. Adding 320x320 support to WM5 would be a simple tweak, which could be downloaded. Adding 320 x 320 support to all the PPC applications would be huge.
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    There is NO confirmation period. One of the people asking questions asked, but there is no offical word.

    Furthermore, engadget STARTED this rumor by saying they THOUGHT it was 240x240... No proof.
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    Your point??

    "still trying to conclusively determine the resolution of the display, but it looks to our eyes like its 240 x 240 pixels, not 320 x 320. But were not 100% on that, ok?"
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    In this morning's press conference, someone mentioned 240x240 in his question during q&a, but no one corrected him on that. But then they did caveat that they would not be talking about specs.

    That still leaves us without 100% confirmation...
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    240x240 will be awful. DVD watching will take a serious hit. It will be much closer to the Treo 600 than the 650.

    320x320 = 102,400
    240x240 = 57,600 (44,800 pixels less)
    160x160 = 25,600 (32,000 pixels less)
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