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    Samsung Intrepid taking place of Palm Treo Pro on Sprint's line-up next week

    I thought the Intrepid was to replace the Ace?

    I've tried posting a comment there asking and to see if they know of any Sprint docs confirming their claim, but my comment mysteriously disappeard shortly after posting it.

    We don't even know if the Intrepid has stand alone GPS. It has a 528MHz Qualcomm processor and yea so does the Treo Pro. It is a world-phone, with WM 6.5 out of the box, but obviously Treo Pro owners can load WM 6.5 via custom ROM. I guess it's a good move if you're with Sprint and looking for something with world-phone capability.
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    The claim is about right... the Ace does not have a touchscreen.

    The screen is what 240 x 320 so it is a bit off to say it is a direct replacement... well it has a screen same size as the ace.

    Maybe it is a replacement for both of them. lol... why can't everyone be right????

    But for those who actually purchased a treo pro (or like the form), this might be a viable option (only damn option?). I looked at it and thought it would be a good replacement.

    Then again, anything that allows all calls to come through would be a great choice to replace the treo pro. Heck, my old treo 700wx is a great upgrade from the treo pro.

    Still got my eye on the touch pro2... looking for 6.5...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    I looked at it and thought it would be a good replacement.
    It's not.

    Screen is kind of crap, build quality is not that great, the keyboard isn't bad but it is odd feeling and the D-pad is not that smooth. Headset jack has one of the rubber caps to remove every time. Battery is a 1480mAh which should do pretty well with WM6.5.

    I don't think it will be terrible, but it's not something to awe after when compared to the competition.

    Sprint Samsung Intrepid hands-on

    I'll still probably get one just to test and play around with, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    It's not.

    Screen is kind of crap, build quality is not that great, the keyboard isn't bad but it is odd feeling and the D-pad is not that smooth. Headset jack has one of the rubber caps to remove every time. Battery is a 1480mAh which should do pretty well with WM6.5.

    I don't think it will be terrible, but it's not something to awe after when compared to the competition.

    Sprint Samsung Intrepid hands-on

    I'll still probably get one just to test and play around with, lol.
    But can it receive calls?

    Anything is better than a $170 Treo Pro paperweight.

    A phone is worthless unless it can do two things: make and receive calls. All the other stuff happens to be "extra features."

    By the way, what kind of "review" was that you posted? Guess it was better than another 20 minute "unboxing" video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    By the way, what kind of "review" was that you posted?
    T'wasn't a review, but a "hands on". Hands on reports are first thoughts, some feature descriptions and photos.

    That was taken during the Microsoft NYC Open House this week, where MS debuted WM6.5 and had demo devices on hand to play with. At 10:45am (right after Bach's keynote), Sprint/MS sent a press release to all the phone sites announcing the Intrepid and I happened to actually have one to play with, hence the post. But I couldn't even make a call with it, let alone take it with me, hence the hands-on report ;-)

    (By your logic, there is no proof it actually makes phone calls yet, meaning it is currently tied with the Treo Pro, lol)

    I'll probably do a full review this week of the device when (if?) i get one in hand. But to be honest, this is hardly an exciting phone.

    As to the "will this replace the Treo Pro", two things
    1. This was literally called the Ace II up till recently--that says a lot imo
    2. The HTC Snap dropped to $99 (finally)/Treo Pro is still $199 and available

    Sprint is obviously having 3 price-tiers for front-qwerty devices: $99 Snap, $149 Intrepid, $199 Treo Pro. Makes sense.

    Surur (WMPoweruser) has always lamented Palm WM devices and he's a Brit, so it's not surprising to see him report on something to make Palm look bad/get it wrong on a US carrier--it's like me reporting on Vodafone.
    Last edited by Malatesta; 10/11/2009 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    (By your logic, there is no proof it actually makes phone calls yet, meaning it is currently tied with the Treo Pro, lol)
    Which feeds directly into the question I asked you.

    Anything that makes and receives all calls is better than the treo pro.


    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    I'll probably do a full review this week of the device when (if?) i get one in hand. But to be honest, this is hardly an exciting phone.
    No argument there... doubt if I'll test one of these myself.


    Surur (WMPoweruser) has always lamented Palm WM devices and he's a Brit, so it's not surprising to see him report on something to make Palm look bad/get it wrong on a US carrier--it's like me reporting on Vodafone.
    That is your interpretation.

    Personally, I see a phone with a touchscreen, wifi, wm 6.5, and in the form of a treo pro.

    No, it is not a direct replacement... but it is in the terms of "what are your options?" IMO, it would be my only choice in this form (if it works, etc...). Guess it depends on how you read what wmpoweruser wrote. If you take it too seriously, then it won't make much sense.

    I remember surur from way back... hmm... lol... had no idea he was there... lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    ...
    Sprint is obviously having 3 price-tiers for front-qwerty devices: $99 Snap, $149 Intrepid, $199 Treo Pro...
    They say timing is everything. The last time I checked a sprint Store the Treo Pro was going for $199 with 2/year agreement/renewal and mail in rebate. Now it's $149...until October 31. At that price, I may bite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMeister View Post
    They say timing is everything. The last time I checked a sprint Store the Treo Pro was going for $199 with 2/year agreement/renewal and mail in rebate. Now it's $149...until October 31. At that price, I may bite.
    Good observation, they changed that this morning with the Intrepid launch.
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Personally, I see a phone with a touchscreen, wifi, wm 6.5, and in the form of a treo pro.
    Well, like I said it earlier, it was called the Ace II for awhile so I'm pretty sure it's replacing, you know, the original Ace. There's no real mystery there or even speculation, it's pretty ipso facto. How you get to it replacing the Ace and Treo Pro, I don't know.

    The Ace never really competed with the MotoQ/Q9C and they were basically the same device (front qwerty, WM6, Standard, 320x240, no wifi), so I don't see a reason just because they add Wifi and haphazardly make it a touch screen.

    So I don't think it'll replace the Treo Pro but the Treo Pro will be phased out for other reasons in a few months, namely it's getting old/doesn't have WM6.5/Palm is done with WM. I bet Sprint will get another "high end" front-qwerty, but from someone else (HTC, HP Obsidian?). I'm guessing we'll see something else in January/February--hopefully something that really "wows".

    Of course this all assumes that front-qwerty WM devices even sell enough to warrant their continued development--that I don't know. Perhaps Sprint is looking to consolidate their front-qwerty devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    Good observation, they changed that this morning with the Intrepid launch.

    Well, like I said it earlier, it was called the Ace II for awhile so I'm pretty sure it's replacing, you know, the original Ace. There's no real mystery there or even speculation, it's pretty ipso facto. How you get to it replacing the Ace and Treo Pro, I don't know.

    The Ace never really competed with the MotoQ/Q9C and they were basically the same device (front qwerty, WM6, Standard, 320x240, no wifi), so I don't see a reason just because they add Wifi and haphazardly make it a touch screen.

    So I don't think it'll replace the Treo Pro but the Treo Pro will be phased out for other reasons in a few months, namely it's getting old/doesn't have WM6.5/Palm is done with WM. I bet Sprint will get another "high end" front-qwerty, but from someone else (HTC, HP Obsidian?). I'm guessing we'll see something else in January/February--hopefully something that really "wows".

    Of course this all assumes that front-qwerty WM devices even sell enough to warrant their continued development--that I don't know. Perhaps Sprint is looking to consolidate their front-qwerty devices.
    So genius, what do you get if you want winmob, to receive all of your calls and want the form of the Treo Pro? Oh, and you want a touchscreen and wifi? Sprint's intentions and customer options are two different things.

    Yea, I'm kinda done... repeating myself on a pos phone that I'll never own. Actually, I'll never own either one of these pos phones (won't own the treo pro again). Not even sure why I'm here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMeister View Post
    They say timing is everything. The last time I checked a sprint Store the Treo Pro was going for $199 with 2/year agreement/renewal and mail in rebate. Now it's $149...until October 31. At that price, I may bite.
    Don't do it.... I thought palm/sprint would push for an update to this phone... figured a fix would be out. No, I was wrong.

    Then again, if you are only getting it for data, it might be worth it. I don't normally have problems with phones... treo pro's issue with receiving calls is a real issue. Don't listen to me, read the comments on here and other forums...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Don't do it.... I thought palm/sprint would push for an update to this phone... figured a fix would be out. No, I was wrong.

    Then again, if you are only getting it for data, it might be worth it. I don't normally have problems with phones... treo pro's issue with receiving calls is a real issue. Don't listen to me, read the comments on here and other forums...
    Well, if I get a new Treo Pro from Sprint instead of used...would that make any difference? I didn't think the receiving calls was an issue. I could have sworn I saw a patch for it (link to Palm) somewhere on this forum...what the latest firmware for Treo Pro? 1.04 or something?
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    Here's the link for the patch...

    Treo Pro Ringer Update
    Palm Support : Sprint Treo Pro Ringer Update (Windows Installer)
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    I played with the Intrepid over the weekend at a Sprint Store. Not my cup of Joe. Even playing with WM 6.5 didn't impress. Too clunky. Once I get it, I'll stick with a WM 6.1 Treo Pro and SPB Shell. I reckon I'll save more internal memory by doing this.

    Long term, I'll wait for WM 7 (6+ months?) and take it from there. By then, either the iPhone might be on Sprint--doubtful--or the Pre 2 or Pixie 2 might hold my interest...
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    Let's look at the facts:

    -Gobs of RAM/ROM
    -3MP camera w/ AF-WorldCard business card scanner should work- that's the only app I miss from my old Touch Pro, and I miss it a LOT
    -GSM world band
    -A KB, that, although a bit clunky, hopefully won't miss key presses
    -No more WM Treos in the future from Palm to hold out hope for

    Sounds like this is as close as it gets to a Touch Pro 2 in a Treo form factor. They actually had a display mode in my local store, but it was one of those malfunctioning versions where nothing worked too well (at least I hope it was )

    The camera was a real winner on AF.

    I don't get it. This appears to be -on paper at least- the closest thing to a candybar TP2 w/o the high-res screen. It certainly seems to blow away the Treo Pro on many levels IF it works as promised.
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    Is this a smartphone? Look like a Tmobile Dash.

    I rather get a Touch Pro 2.
    Dell x51v → Motorola Q (Verizon) → Mogul → 800w → Treo Pro → Touch Pro 2 (SERO) → HTC EVO 3D → HTC EVO 4G LTE → HTC One S → Nexus 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMeister View Post
    Well, if I get a new Treo Pro from Sprint instead of used...would that make any difference? I didn't think the receiving calls was an issue. I could have sworn I saw a patch for it (link to Palm) somewhere on this forum...what the latest firmware for Treo Pro? 1.04 or something?
    Unfortunately, no. No updates to fix the issue of it missing calls. I stay on the third floor of a three story building... strong signal. Many different phones. Sprint Treo pro was the only phone to miss calls. Gsm seems okay.

    Trust me, I wanted to keep the treo pro... it was the best wm phone I'd ever used (outside of this issue).

    Then you might get lucky and get a good phone. Who knows.

    If you liked the 800w, then you might be okay with the pro... I did not keep the 800w 30 days before sending it back to sprint.

    Funny thing is on my desk right now I have a palm 700wx... TE2... and TX.

    Using the 700... te2 and tx going to this guy on a job site... he wants them for some program he is using. Odd stuff, but he depends on pdas to do his job (he can't use a pda/phone combo).
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    One thing that would keep me from going to the Intrepid would be if Seidio would never release a real extended battery for it. Samsung does sell a 1800mah, but that's nowhere near the ~3500 extended batteries that Seidio makes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skfny View Post
    Let's look at the facts:

    -Gobs of RAM/ROM
    -3MP camera w/ AF-WorldCard business card scanner should work- that's the only app I miss from my old Touch Pro, and I miss it a LOT
    -GSM world band
    -A KB, that, although a bit clunky, hopefully won't miss key presses
    -No more WM Treos in the future from Palm to hold out hope for

    Sounds like this is as close as it gets to a Touch Pro 2 in a Treo form factor. They actually had a display mode in my local store, but it was one of those malfunctioning versions where nothing worked too well (at least I hope it was )

    The camera was a real winner on AF.

    I don't get it. This appears to be -on paper at least- the closest thing to a candybar TP2 w/o the high-res screen. It certainly seems to blow away the Treo Pro on many levels IF it works as promised.
    There are several advantages on the Treo Pro over the Intrepid, for example 50% more pixels on the screen! 320x320 is a big difference over 320x240.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aero View Post
    There are several advantages on the Treo Pro over the Intrepid, for example 50% more pixels on the screen! 320x320 is a big difference over 320x240.
    It is, the QVGA screen was a mistake, but it's not a deal-breaker. Other than the screen res and the Seidio battery, I think Samsung has the edge in most if not all areas. (at least on paper)
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    Quote Originally Posted by skfny View Post
    It is, the QVGA screen was a mistake, but it's not a deal-breaker. Other than the screen res and the Seidio battery, I think Samsung has the edge in most if not all areas. (at least on paper)
    That's the key here.

    Been using this the last few days and will have my review up probably for Monday.

    In short, the phone is terrible. The keyboard is actually one of the best, but the screen, ports, power button, labels, functionality and yes, even signal reception are just...bad. This should not have been a 320x240 device--it is a deal breaker (imo) because the fonts all look blurry now.

    It's a very frustrating device to use and one of the worst I have experienced. I want to like it badly, the design is nice and professional. But they just made too many amateur mistakes--feels very 2007-ish.

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