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       #181  
    Oh no. Sprint is trying to ban tethering in 2010.

    News: Sprint to Ban Tethering on Smartphones Next Year, Other Plans Revealed | PhoneNews.com
    Dell x51v → Motorola Q (Verizon) → Mogul → 800w → Treo Pro → Touch Pro 2 (SERO) → HTC EVO 3D → HTC EVO 4G LTE → HTC One S → Nexus 4
  2. #182  
    Interesting how he dropped it:

    •No tethering for phones that require Everything plans (such as all smartphones) from here on out.

    I wonder if they were talking about tethering contracts with sprint or an attempt to stop tethering all together. I think the "such as smartphones" was added later. Need more clarification on what this exactly means before we start jumping to conclusions....

    If an attempt to stop it, they fail.

    If anything they should offer some attractive tethering prices for people like me who might tether once or twice maybe up to a max of five times every month...
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  3. #183  
    Quote Originally Posted by chong67 View Post
    Makes business sense, given they are trying to get everyone on SE + MB.

    All the more reason to only buy Sprint devices that have custom ROMs available.

    Sprint is trying even harder to hobble devices. Not cool.

    Although the plan makes business sense on the surface, I expect it to totally backfire and won't help improve things like this one bit.
  4. #184  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    With that said, I'm not sure I'm going to keep the touch pro2. Well, am going to keep it because sprint has nothing better... but if the treo pro had all issues fixed, I'd pick that as my main phone. Even with the crappy keyboard.

    With the tp2, it seems I'm struggling to do things quickly... things are nice, but I believe the OS is holding it back... in a major way.

    I agree with both of those comments. I am having a hard time navigating quickly. I did install the keyboard mapper so my up & down volume navigate up & down, a double click is enter, a long hold launches hannips multiscript.

    I am missing the Dpad though. The keyboard doesnt bother me. I find I hardly use the hardware keyboard & its not easy for me to type (I am used to treos).
  5. #185  
    Quote Originally Posted by chong67 View Post
    I really like the TP2. The screen of this size is perfect. Any bigger would not be good.

    I found out I dont use the keyboard that much anymore. I just do touch screen mostly.

    I am suprised I also dont see much of any fingerprint on the screen. I dont know what it is. Maybe its the cool weather now.

    I dont know why my Treo Pro is very oily. Maybe its too shiny that can show well?
    When doing the touch screen, are you doing it one handed? Or, are you holding the phone in one hand and working the screen with the other?
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       #186  
    Mwrob,

    You can use one hand or two hand. I just use one finger and picker thru it. I seldom ever open the slider for the keyboard.

    The CDMA TP2 has been unlocked today! That mean I can use it on ATT or T-mobile!

    Its the same lady that crack the code for you to update to WM6.5 on your Treo Pro also.

    I was worried about the d-pad but I am not missing it at all.
    Dell x51v → Motorola Q (Verizon) → Mogul → 800w → Treo Pro → Touch Pro 2 (SERO) → HTC EVO 3D → HTC EVO 4G LTE → HTC One S → Nexus 4
  7. #187  
    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    Makes business sense, given they are trying to get everyone on SE + MB.

    All the more reason to only buy Sprint devices that have custom ROMs available.

    Sprint is trying even harder to hobble devices. Not cool.

    Although the plan makes business sense on the surface, I expect it to totally backfire and won't help improve things like this one bit.
    That is one argument... the second is that sprint is simply clearing up that "everything plan" does not include internet access to your computer through your cell phone.

    Are they gong to "hobble devices" so wifi router does not work? It would be interesting to see them try, but I believe they will fail... after all, sprint still needs to get out to the net on the devices. lol

    To me, nothing changes... they have never allowed pam... you needed an add on plan for that or a usb card.

    Always downsides to custom roms... end up spending hours toying with a device instead of using it. lol Nothing wrong with that though... whatever floats your boat. I don't trust it... but many over at ppc geeks and other sites do...

    I remember when everyone was up in arms about verizon killing their free internet connection... what was that 2000/2001/2002... someplace like that.. don't remember, but companies introduced ways to get online... everyone complained for a second, then realized nothing much changed.

    It will be interesting to see them clear the air on his comments... seems many online are jumping to conclusions...
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  8. #188  
    After two weeks....

    Well, as my comments earlier stated... this is the best phone/pda combo I've used.

    Now that I'm not worried that I'll drop my expensive phone, I'm able to use quickly with one hand.

    It has taken me almost two weeks of forced use to finally understand how one hand use, in conjunction with the slider, back buttons, arrows, etc. works best.

    Once you "learn" the device, it is a joy to use. You have more options available vs. using a frontal keyboard.

    When typing small txts or email replies, I normally do it with the virtual keyboard... longer emails, I automatically go to the larger keyboard and bang out the email quickly. Must have "correction" enabled to use the on screen keyboard... get close and the system figures it out. lol

    Also nice having all the screen space for the web... I've already used it more for work than my previous devices... screen is nice. Having "mobile" web with "regular" web is great. Again, options.

    WiFi is great... used that the other day when in the basement while working on a project and needed to test the signal...

    Finally started using my Plantonics BT headset... it works like a charm. It is an older model and has some limited static if you are not in conversation, but when speaking it is very clear... no complaints.

    Used the speaker phone during a call that I wanted to record... it works great... not sure if the person knew I switched them over to a speaker phone, but normally people ask if you have... she did not. (Recording for steps in a work process... nothing bad.)

    Scrolling in "all programs" needs to be improved... it goes much too fast as times. BUT!!!! I don't hit on items by accident anymore... I've learned to take my entire thumb over the screen and firmly press to move (not "hard", but firm). When picking an item, a light touch on that item picks it. I did not understand this at first and was picking items by accident.

    My email did become unresponsive last night... everything else worked fine... this is wm... that is why I always recommended having a backup program that "reset" your pda every night at say 5 am... or whenever you were sleep. WM mobile needs a reboot at least once a week to run great. I don't have a backup program yet... started ordering items for the phone the other day, not gotten around to software purchases.

    Outside of that, no OS/software issues not mentioned in previous posts...

    Battery life is excellent... I'm averaging 32 to 36 hours between charges. Since I do not have a car charger (on the way) or a charger at work (need to setup), I'm talking straight time. It is not bad considering the power of this device.

    I highly recommend this phone... sprint version at least.... seems the verizon version is having trouble.
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       #189  
    I have not yet flash to do custom ROM. Sprint is slow to release 6.5 until next year.

    Theog, do yo use your keyboard? I think I only had used it 3x.

    Has anyone of you unlock your Treo Pro to do custom rom?
    Dell x51v → Motorola Q (Verizon) → Mogul → 800w → Treo Pro → Touch Pro 2 (SERO) → HTC EVO 3D → HTC EVO 4G LTE → HTC One S → Nexus 4
  10. #190  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    To me, nothing changes... they have never allowed pam... you needed an add on plan for that or a usb card.
    The as you noted, they allowed it via an add on plan. It's pretty apparent they won't in the future. Some were even using PAM via an easy registry hack, although I've often warned that goes against Sprint's agreement. It will be interesting to see if Sprint tries to make that harder to do. But there were people who enjoyed and paid for PAM service. So Sprint is removing a once available optional feature, lowering the featuer set available to customers. Leaving customers with an option that will cost more, a card. The feature via the device is being hobbled, in exchanged for paying more for a card.

    Sprint has already limited customers to 5GB/month, so it's a bit annoying to see them play games with how a customer desires to use it.

    Always downsides to custom roms... end up spending hours toying with a device instead of using it. lol Nothing wrong with that though... whatever floats your boat. I don't trust it... but many over at ppc geeks and other sites do...
    Since I've started using custom ROMs I've totally enjoyed it and look forward to them being available on the HTC HD2/Leo if Sprint carries it. The number of people who have actually tried custom ROMs and later said they never would again is a very small percentage from what I've seen. I can't say I've got any downside to use of customized ROMs, I used to be leery of them BEFORE I started using them . Using Sashimi, I've got my device automatically setup literally minutes after flashing to a new ROM.

    Personally speaking, I wish I had dived into customized ROMs even sooner.

    A well known XDA developer once told me, back when I was slow to try any customzied ROM, that once I start trying customzied ROMs I'll have a totally different view of them. And they were absolutely right.

    Quote Originally Posted by chong67 View Post
    I have not yet flash to do custom ROM. Sprint is slow to release 6.5 until next year.
    I think once you do start playing with custom ROMs, you'll never turn back. That Manila 2.5 looks pretty nice .
  11. #191  
    Well dang, it looks like Sprint won't provide an "official" WM 6.5 upgrade for the Touch Pro 2 till next yet!

    Sprint Touch Pro 2 WM 6.5 upgrade only next year, waiting for Windows Mobile 7

    Good thing the "development community" has come up with a Hard SPL and custom ROMs.
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    Well dang, it looks like Sprint won't provide an "official" WM 6.5 upgrade for the Touch Pro 2 till next year!

    Sprint Touch Pro 2 WM 6.5 upgrade only next year, waiting for Windows Mobile 7

    Good thing the "development community" has come up with a Hard SPL and custom ROMs. The Hard SPL just came out today and now PPC Geeks has been flooded with traffic, to the point the site is not open at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chong67 View Post
    Theog, do yo use your keyboard? I think I only had used it 3x.
    Yes, when I reply to long emails... the on screen keyboard tends to not have the feedback my brain requires. lol

    Also, when looking at stuff on the web, I normally turn the device sideways and use the keyboard that way as well... looking for contacts... much faster and easier to use the keyboard.

    So, yea, I tend to use the keyboard more than a few times. My fingers are larger than normal maybe... dunno what normal is... lol

    I'm still getting used to the on screen keyboard... slowly working it into the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    But there were people who enjoyed and paid for PAM service. So Sprint is removing a once available optional feature, lowering the featuer set available to customers. Leaving customers with an option that will cost more, a card. The feature via the device is being hobbled, in exchanged for paying more for a card.
    Can you get pam with an everything plan and pda phone? I can't configure one that will allow that (pre and touch pro 2)... I thought they still might but never checked it. PAM seems dead already...

    You don't know yet if anything will be hobbled.... sounds like FUD!!!

    Seriously, I doubt if anything changes...

    The comment was so vague and odd that I'd like to wait and see if there is a clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chong67 View Post
    I know about it but I think they have plug the hole.

    I cant sign a new contract. I still got 1.5 yrs to go.

    But I bought a new one too. Mine came to $354.94 after bing rebate.
    What was the process on buying it the way you did?
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       #196  
    Look for a buy it now and use the bing to get 8% back.
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    Im still on the fence. I have had the touch pro 2 for a week or two. I like it but I find i am much more efficient on the Treo Pro. I do notice that the Treo Pro doesnt seem to run as crash free as the TP2.

    Many many more reboots on the STP than the TP2.

    I just am having a hard time quickly getting around with the lack of mail/cal buttons & no dpad.

    I am using the keyboard remapper to help using the vol keys but i am not sure.

    Is it worth the 2 year extension? I cant imagine I will be happy with the phone for two years.

    That HD2 looks pretty nice too.

    Anyone else having second thoughts about the TP2 or is it just me?

    THanks,
    Rich
  18. #198  
    Quote Originally Posted by RichTJ99 View Post
    Im still on the fence. I have had the touch pro 2 for a week or two. I like it but I find i am much more efficient on the Treo Pro. I do notice that the Treo Pro doesnt seem to run as crash free as the TP2.

    Many many more reboots on the STP than the TP2.

    I just am having a hard time quickly getting around with the lack of mail/cal buttons & no dpad.

    I am using the keyboard remapper to help using the vol keys but i am not sure.

    Is it worth the 2 year extension? I cant imagine I will be happy with the phone for two years.

    That HD2 looks pretty nice too.

    Anyone else having second thoughts about the TP2 or is it just me?

    THanks,
    Rich
    That's why it silly when people get into arguments about what is the best phone. It depends on what your usage is. If you watch a lot of video or spend a lot of time browsing the web, the TP2 is probably better for you than the Treo Pro. If you use the PIM functions a lot, then the Treo Pro is going to be more efficient. If you do both, well then you have a tougher decision.
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    I just turned on my Touch Pro 1 for the first time in several months. I didn't realize how paralyzing that dysfunctional D-pad was compared to the Treo Pro's.

    Not having ANY D-pad (as w/ the TP2) is not an option for me.
  20. #200  
    I do like the big screen on the TP2 & the main menus are easy to navigate, its the little things like switching folders in outlook, or tapping the wrong thing three times when a Dpad would do it the first time.


    i have started thinking about trying a used BB curve as they are pretty cheap these days (100 or so). It might be worth messing with.

    I do like the HTC touchflo, that is pretty slick.

    It also feels like the TP2 is faster & more stable.

    My recollection is that the 800w 'felt' faster than the STP.
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