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  1. #681  
    Quote Originally Posted by VibrantRedGT View Post
    I may try a custom ROM on my Touch Pro. Right now the stock Sprint ROM has just been solid. Phone never freezes, phone portion is great and data speed is amazing.

    D, just keep me posted on the progress and if its solid I will try it.
    Given all the issues you faced with the 800w and you had more than me, I would not use anything other than what you have for about a year, just so you are sure of a year of peace .

    I'm going to move up to the new MightyROM 4.16 soon and I probably won't install the TF3D-HD port, since I will probably use landscape more often when on long drives. And I must say, using the hard keyboard in the car is pretty nice. The soft qwerty is good for one handed use, but when not able to hold the device and it's in a car holder, the hard keyboard is easier to use. In the car, that Touch Pro hard keyboard is easier to use than the smaller buttons on the 800w too. So I'll use MightyROM 4.16 without any major manila adjustments other than whatever is already in MightyROM 4.16. That will give me an even better idea how that custom ROM runs, when used over time without any other major adjustments.

    The stuff Mighty Mike put into that ROM is really great though. A more up to date version of WM, all sorts of neat features added, I'm still finding new stuff he added about every other day.

    But it's all really just warm up for the coming Rhodium ROMs. I mean, that's going to really change the game. It's really making me better appreciate the "black slate" devices. Want a new interface, some software changes and you're done.
  2. #682  
    VGT- Sorry about that Centro, It seems there a situation going on w/it, but do you know anyone working a ROM for the 800? We have an idea to improve in comparison w/the Treo & Touch Pro's, including battery. Thanks
  3.    #683  
    Quote Originally Posted by cscoot03 View Post
    VGT- Sorry about that Centro, It seems there a situation going on w/it, but do you know anyone working a ROM for the 800? We have an idea to improve in comparison w/the Treo & Touch Pro's, including battery. Thanks
    scoot, no problem at all about the Centro.

    Honestly there really isn't much that can be done on the Treo side. There will be no custom ROM's for the 800 probably ever. You're kinda late to the 800 game. Back when most of us got the 800 in July 2008 we all hoped there would be a hacker to come up with a custom ROM. Some items got bandaids but nobody came to the rescue. Instead the 800 fizzled out and the Treo Pro became the fix.

    Now, for those who have a Treo Pro I believe it can be hacked like the Touch Pro. I'm only saying this because I have actually seen the Tri-Color locker a few months ago. I guess what's needed now is someone who will work on it. Hannip, cody and others are fixing the threaded text issue on the device currently. Maybe a few hackers will do something but who knows.



    The Treo community in general does not have the presence of the Touch Pro community. There are literally hundreds of custom ROM's available for the Touch Pro. The support is so strong I can not even keep up with it.
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  4. #684  
    OK thanks for that reply & I'm hoping the Treo Pro is acceptable.
  5. #685  
    VRGT, just to keep you posted, I've been using MightyROM 4.16 for about a week now. Using it without the TF3D-HD port, MightyROM already has some of the HD goodies baked in anyway. I'm finding using MightyROM straight is total bliss.

    Like I mentioned before.
    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    It's like going from a nice Cadillac that already had good features from the dealer when driven off the showroom floor, to a sending that nice Cadillac to customization shop that "tricks" it out and having more to enjoy!
    The stock Sprint ROM, version 1.03.651.4, which came with both our Touch Pros is stable and good. Some who have older Touch Pros got the older less stable ROM. But MightyMike's ROM is just an awesome addition.

    The HD port was never able to run well in landscape mode and on MightyROM had some other minor quirks, but things like the People tab with direct call buttons on the tab is already in MightyROM.

    MightyMike is not using registry hacks to crank up touch sensitivity and speed. Checking the registry, I don't see any of the commonly used registry edits. He's doing it via some other means, perhaps its using a later build of WM 6.1 helps. However he's doing it, it's even faster than the registry tweaks. With registry tweaks the Touch Pro is "snappy", but with MightyROM, the Touch Pro totally goes to a new category of speed. Way beyond anything called "snappy" and it's nothing but cool.

    I once mentioned I'm not going to buy any more devices when they first come out, to assess how the early owners feel about them. Now one additional thing I'll be looking for in that waiting period review time, is whether the device has customized ROMs rolling out. If it's found the device does not have solid proof of customized ROMs already out, or at the very least proof customized ROMs can be made easily and some near release, I doubt I'll buy the device. Being able to tweak these things to the hilt is part of what makes them more enjoyable.
  6. #686  
    I'm glad to hear you're having good fortunes with the Touch Pro & sadly this will be my last report here since I've received confirmation that my Treo Pro's are on the way. So I'm on my way to the Treo Pro section now so good luck & happy trails!
  7.    #687  
    D, keep me up to date on the up coming trip and standalone. Plus I may upgrade to that ROM if its stable just for funzies. I have no issues with the stock ROM to date. In fact I don't remember a freeze or a reboot in well, never.
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  8. #688  
    Quote Originally Posted by VibrantRedGT View Post
    D, keep me up to date on the up coming trip and standalone. Plus I may upgrade to that ROM if its stable just for funzies. I have no issues with the stock ROM to date. In fact I don't remember a freeze or a reboot in well, never.
    Yea, I've got a road trip coming up that always goes through places that get no cell signals of any types. So I've got Garmin XT on the way and I'll be seeing how things go. I got Garmin for that, but I've been told since Garmin does not need to pull map data, it keeps the Touch Pro cooler too, but I already have my cold pack ready if needed .

    The stock Sprint ROM was very good to me, it totally changed my view of WM stability after my many 800w problems. But if you try MightyROM, you probably won't use the stock ROM again. Oh by the way, MightyROM has some things sized differently, but its very easy to change those sizes to what you are accustomed to. There are 3 options that would have to be changed. In settings, the Screen settings under "text size" I always move down one notch. In the TouchFlo settings I always check the "enable large start menu" option. And in the Task Manager settings on its "Others" tab I always select the Large Program icons for the Quick Menu. It has the Today Timeout set to 4 hours too, I always uncheck that option.

    When ROM flashing, the easy way to reinstall things is to use Sashimi. Some people using Sashimi sometimes flip ROMs like crazy, because it's so easy to get everything installed again once it's configured.

    Cscoot03, we'll be seeing you over on the Treo Pro side of the house .
  9. #689  
    Dear VRGT and others considering MightyROM. I suggest you do NOT flash to MightyROM yet. Not because of any problems in MightyROM 4.16, it's a wonderful ROM. But because MightyMike has WM 6.5 with TF3D coming up!!!

    He has proclaimed that it is flawless. (I don't see any flaws in MightyROM 4.16 either. It's good to roll with a ROM cook who is a perfectionist . If he releases it, you know it's actually something you can use everyday.)

    More screen shots of the coming ROM.

    And he's saying all that is only 30% of the "tease". Something really sweet is on the way!!!

    Might as well wait and get that when it comes.

    I was planning to use Sashimi after my next ROM flash, to quickly reinstall all my applications, registrations, personal customizations and so on. But given this is a WM 6.5 build, I'm going to do installs the long way, to see what runs fine with WM 6.5 and keep anything that does not play nicely off. The higher you go up in the WM builds, even at the WM 6.1 level, some applications simply don't work well with newer builds, typically stuff that is old.
  10.    #690  
    OMG!!!

    I am not going to even click on the screenshots until I have a towel with me.

    This guy is nuts. I cannot wait.
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  11. #691  
    To VRGT and anyone else interested:

    So about that trip with the CDMA Touch Pro stand alone GPS using Garmin Mobile XT, versus when on a road trip with Sprint Navigation on the Treo 800w.

    One big thing, that makes the stand alone GPS shine. You can talk on the phone and use Garmin Mobile XT navigation at the same time. (I know some have mentioned their 800w GPS works without a cell signal once initiated, but results with that have varied and it can't start without a compatible cell signal.) I'm sure you know from using Sprint Navigation, once a call comes in, you've got to drop the navigation till the call is over. I used to have to tell people "let me call you back I'm trying to use my GPS navigation for directions right now" and switch Sprint Navigation back on.

    So with that, I doubt I'll be using Sprint Navigation much at all ever again.

    On the road trip, I hit areas where I lost data connection and areas where I even loss the voice signal. But Garmin Mobile XT kept rolling all the way. Garmin Mobile XT does act up if you have it set to receive a data connection and the connection is not there when it tries to access it, like once it got caught in a "recalculating" loop. But if you set Garmin Mobile XT to have its data setting "disabled" and simply check traffic and other data things manually when desired, it never slips. So long as the GPS is able to run stand alone Garmin Mobile XT runs just fine. I was even on the phone with my uncle with Garmin giving me directions and the voice signal was loss and the call disconnected. Garmin simply kept going like nothing happened and its spoken directions kicked in once the call disconnected because of the loss phone signal.

    I now see why those who say Garmin is better than Sprint Navigation say so. And it's more than being able to use it on devices with stand alone GPS while on a call. But I'm planning to make a future post probably over at PPC Geeks, where I'll detail the feature differences.

    I tried checking with Sprint, to see if I could get a cheaper plan with data services, that does not include Sprint Navigation, but there is none. All Sprint Data plans come with Sprint Navigation. I'm also less of a fan of Sprint TV these days. If Sprint offered a plan with data, but minus Sprint Navigation and minus Sprint TV for cheaper I'd jump on it.

    MightMike is taking his time with that new ROM of his. For now, the WM 6.5 foundation that he's using is out, but the MightyROM version is not yet released. For now MightyMike is just offering more teasers.
  12.    #692  
    Interesting road trip findings. My Mustang has a huge navi system so I don't use my phone anymore. This way I can talk and use GPS at the same time. Sounds like your Garmin set up is pretty decent and worth it.

    I checked a few times over the weekend for Mike's ROM and came across the 6.5 thread. However I am going to wait until his is released.
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  13. #693  
    Quote Originally Posted by VibrantRedGT View Post
    Interesting road trip findings. My Mustang has a huge navi system so I don't use my phone anymore. This way I can talk and use GPS at the same time. Sounds like your Garmin set up is pretty decent and worth it.

    I checked a few times over the weekend for Mike's ROM and came across the 6.5 thread. However I am going to wait until his is released.
    Yea, I purchased a garmin standalone for my accord coupe and it is great... some things are meant to be standalone...

    I normally only use a gps on a phone is while walking around the city... but it is nice to have when you are not in your car and need something to get buy... that recently happened. Google maps worked great then....
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  14.    #694  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Yea, I purchased a garmin standalone for my accord coupe and it is great... some things are meant to be standalone...

    I normally only use a gps on a phone is while walking around the city... but it is nice to have when you are not in your car and need something to get buy... that recently happened. Google maps worked great then....
    Did the Treo 800 mess force you to purchase Garmin standalone?
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  15. #695  
    Quote Originally Posted by VibrantRedGT View Post
    Did the Treo 800 mess force you to purchase Garmin standalone?
    No, the HTC pro and a BB forced me to get it...

    It was then that I realized no phone could replace a standalone gps...
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  16. #696  
    Does a Garmin stand alone unit provide full seamless integration with MS Outlook contacts? Garmin Mobile XT does. Sprint Navigation provides one-way integration, by allowing you to select "Drive to" or "Map it" from within Contacts. Garmin Mobile XT provides that. But in addition you can be within Garmin Mobile XT and open all your contacts from there. (To drive to, map or even call from within Garmin Mobile XT.) And if you enter a new Address into Garmin Mobile XT, you can have it add that new address into your Outlook Contacts and go from Garmin into that specific contact and make further edits if you wish.

    There's a seamless 2 way integration between Outlook Contacts and Garmin Mobile XT, that you don't get from some of the other navigation options.
  17. #697  
    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    Does a Garmin stand alone unit provide full seamless integration with MS Outlook contacts? .
    No, but you don't need it... I was able to move all my contacts over by going through google maps... it was rather simple... actually, I did not need all of them since I know where the majority of my contacts in outlook live. I don't know why.

    As fast as the standalone garmin is, adding a new contact is very easy... very fast compared to a cheap gps. But again, easy and fast to add to the device via google maps. You could also use Microsoft Live...

    Guess it depends on what you like... that is why all kinds of options are available...
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  18. #698  
    I guess if someone is into The Cloud that might be OK.
  19. #699  
    thread really off track but I will comment anyway.

    I use Tom Tom Navigator 6 on my 800w while talking on the phone all the time.
    If I am on my BT headset the nav instructions are muted but If I connect to my car stereo the the voice comands come over the phone call. Works great, used it on my 700wx too.
    Still waiting for Hitachi to reintroduce the G1000 with a VGA screen and more memory. I still miss that crash prone beauty.
  20. #700  
    Quote Originally Posted by Palm_forlackofchoice View Post
    thread really off track but I will comment anyway.

    I use Tom Tom Navigator 6 on my 800w while talking on the phone all the time.
    If I am on my BT headset the nav instructions are muted but If I connect to my car stereo the the voice comands come over the phone call. Works great, used it on my 700wx too.
    So on your 700wx you were using the Bluetooth GPS receiver right? On your 800w are you still using that Bluetooth GPS receiver?

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