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  1. #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by Rene Ritchie View Post
    Gotta admit, tho, I felt abandoned by the Palm OS eventually, so my attention wondered to the iPhone, which in many ways I feel is the technological successor to the Zen of Palm OS.
    Me too. I'm definitely looking for a new device to replace a Palm Treo. Not too sure about the Treo Pro, though, because of Windows Mobile. I dislike its complexity. And I really dislike the lag reported in Windows devices and the dreadful performance of the IE browser (see recent Gizmodo browser battle). Your first download should probably be Opera Mini which at least scores a C compared to the iPhone's A-.
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    For the push email experience with Gmail IMAP, Flexmail by WebIS rocks. It's like Chattermail but more powerful (e.g. you can search your email)
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    Well I am looking to repolace my 750 with either the treo pro the fuze the epix or some other wm 6.1 professional device. I have to have a touchscreen so I am enjoying this round robin time.
  4.    #24  
    Wow! You folks are awesome!

    There was a delay in them delivering the Treo Pro, so I'm only getting it tomorrow, but I feel much less intimidated by the critter after reading all y'all's advice than I was before.

    I'm really big on using default setups. I never skinned either of my PalmOS Treo's, or installed any font enhancers, etc. I did use Core Player for media, however, so I'll definitely be checking that out.

    How's battery life with multitasking? I did notice on the G1 when I enabled IM background, my battery drained while I was watching it. Is that not a problem with the Treo, or should I keep an eye on it?

    As to MMS -- iSigh -- my friends mostly have iPhones, so they wouldn't receive them

    I'll begin trying everything out as soon as UPS shows up tomorrow, and then I'm sure I'll be back with even more questions!

    Thanks again!
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    I will post the coreplayer I'm using when I get back to my PC. Unless someone comes along and posts it before me.
    Some were having trouble with certain versions.
  6. #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by Rene Ritchie View Post
    I'm really big on using default setups. I never skinned either of my PalmOS Treo's, or installed any font enhancers, etc.
    Even though you're set on using default setup. I suggest you at least try (for some time) RealVGA setup to 96dpi mode. I find that working in 96dpi mode allows me to use all my previous WM applications, even those that were not adapted to 240x240 or 320x320 resolution. I personally think that Palm should have defaulted to 96dpi mode (not 128dpi).
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    Can you throw a little 680 comparison in there, since you mentioned that as one of your former devices?
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    I'd like to see comparisons between the Pro's and iPhone's screens. Does it take longer or involve more scrolling to read a web page or email on the smaller screen? Is one screen easier on the eyes or battery?
  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by jbonnot03 View Post
    Can you throw a little 680 comparison in there, since you mentioned that as one of your former devices?
    As a 680 owner, the Treo Pro is about as brisk as the 680 which is laggy by PalmOS standards.
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  10.    #30  
    JUST GOT THE TREO PRO!

    Yup, and popped the battery cover off, and found a nice note from Crackberry Kevin warning me that a stylus could easily cost me my eye. Nice!

    So, I set it up, it rebooted (what's up with that?) and then I tried to set up ActiveSync. I've done this over an over again on many iPhones, and found the procedure here largely the same.

    However: BRICK WALL!

    It doesn't like my certificate (says it's invalid). On the iPhone, I just ignore this warning and it keeps going and sets up fine.

    I can't find any way to ignore this on the Treo Pro!

    Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rene Ritchie View Post
    So, I set it up, it rebooted (what's up with that?) and then I tried to set up ActiveSync. I've done this over an over again on many iPhones, and found the procedure here largely the same.

    However: BRICK WALL!

    It doesn't like my certificate (says it's invalid). On the iPhone, I just ignore this warning and it keeps going and sets up fine.

    I can't find any way to ignore this on the Treo Pro!

    Any ideas?
    Not sure.
    I will be at my PC later this eve.
    If you are still having trouble, maybe uninstall and then try again.
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    Not sure what I can uninstall? I basically need a way to tell ActiveSync on WinMo 6.1 to ignore a home-brewed certificate (which will return as invalid because it's signed by my company, not by Equifax, Verisign, etc.)

    On the plus side, after rejecting my Gmail password over and over and over again, I came back an hour or so later to find it working none-the-less!

    It seems to be POP'ing the mail, however, and not using IMAP, as everything comes in as unread regardless of server state. I'm going to go look for settings.

    Next challenge: How do I get my MobileMe calendar and contacts over? I can tether to a PC running under a virtual machine, if absolutely necessary, but Dieter would paint me with the EPIC OTA FAIL brush if I had to resort to that (like Kevin did!)

    Thanks again for all the help, TCers!
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    I ment uninstall ActiveSync. And then when you plug in your pro it should try to set it up again.
    But if you have some company security certificate it may not make a difference.
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    #34  
    Quote Originally Posted by Rene Ritchie View Post
    As to MMS -- iSigh -- my friends mostly have iPhones, so they wouldn't receive them
    There's always email...
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    Hi Rene,

    Do this (I'm assuimg you're using a Mac and Safari):
    - Go to the webmail interface for your Exchange Server (also called OWA).
    - when you try to access it, you'll be told the certificate is invalid. click the "Show Certificate" button.
    - Safari will render a nice little image of a certificate in that dialog. Drag the image of the certificate to your desktop. You'll now have a file ending in .cer on your Desktop.
    - copy the .cer file to your Treo (either via MissingSync, a flash card, Bluetooth, etc.)
    - Using the Treo, launch its file manager and navigate to where you put the .cer file. double-tap it with the stylus.
    - The Treo will ask if you want to add the certificate to the root store. click Yes and you should be good to go.

    Hopefully that will get ActiveSync working for you.

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    Last edited by Conrad; 11/24/2008 at 09:13 PM.
  16.    #36  
    Conrad:

    Awesome help! Thanks mightily!

    I'd already trusted the certificate via Safari, so I went to Keychain, searched it out, and dragged it to the desktop.

    Since I'm trying to be a good wireless citizen, I'm trying to connect now via BT. Pet peeve so far with entering the BT pairing string (and I found this with WiFi and Email passwords as well, since I use pseudo-random strings for security): hiding the password with a Treo style keyboard that requires shifting and alt-ing to get numbers and symbols is a recipe for disaster, likewise a soft keyboard hiding the input field. I'm guessing there's a way to turn this off, which I shall now hunt down...

    (iPhone used to do this, but changed to show a few momentary flashes of the last character input so it can be double-checked -- something that got it back on my WiFi network )
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  17. #37  
    Enable IMAP in Gmail's settings.
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  18. #38  
    For that annoying soft keyboard, try this:

    http://personales.ya.com/beemer/nullkeyboard.htm

    And to make it stick:
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008

    I'm trying to head off the cheap shot on the stylus like what happened on crackberry.com
  19. #39  
    Copy and paste something, then tell us how it feels.
  20. #40  
    For me, the I always have imap enabled in Gmail but the TP did the same thing to me where the choice to choose imap was greyed out and my only option was pop. I overcame it by first inserting a bogus email address when setting up new mail. When I choose gmail it went into auto set up with pop. but i changed my domain from gmail to tmail went through the imap process and at then end went back and changed it to gmail. That worked for me.
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