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    So many bugs, but I am seeing more and more people who have gotton things corrected. What do think.
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    New phones always have bugs but the 800w has a lot of them. The Touch Pro is more stable and will get many more updates because the HTC community puts the Treo community to shame when it comes to custom software, ROMs, etc.

    Bigger differences are the battery size (Touch Pro is bigger), physical size (Touch Pro is smaller), keyboard size (Touch Pro is bigger), LCD size (Touch Pro is bigger), GPS (Touch Pro works 100%), and software compatibility (Touch Pro can run a lot more apps).

    The Touch Pro is also less expensive because Best Buy gives 25% off all smartphones on top of all regular Sprint rebates!
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    I'm really happy with mine. For me. the big issue at first was battery life, but with a hack to end data connections, this phone passes my weekend without a charge test. The actual phone is very stable.
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    If you really want the Treo 800w, get it. It's stable so long as you don't start installing "unknown" applications. At that point any device gains instabilities.

    I can't speak for the HTC community. I can only say my Treo 800w saw perhaps one soft reset till I started installing various "unknown" software packages.
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    If you don't put apps on the 800 it's pretty stable. With only one app on mine its stable and snappy. Once I loaded today plug in's it all went to hell quickly.

    The HTC community is very fast about ROM's and enhancements that's for sure. The Diamond already has a ROM out. Palm has a lock where doing all this is nearly impossible.

    My contract ends December 1st so I will make decision on getting the Pro if the bugs are limited by then. I've read that the audio quality on the Pro is worse than the 800 which I thought would be impossible. WMExperts gave the Pro a great review this morning. I hate sliders but the VGA screen, 512RAM, 3.2 MP Camera and the look of it may cancel that out.
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    Mine is rock solid, and I have a whole host of Proggies on there.

    WmWiFirouter
    SplashMoney
    PushEffect
    eWallet
    kinoma Play
    PIEPlus
    google Maps
    Pocket Navigator
    AEButton
    Today Agenda
    PocketUno
    Softreset
    MSSconvertor
    resco Brain Games
    resco explorer with FTP and Registry
    cTide
    CallstoJournal
    intelliGolf
    chessGenius
    Astraware Casino
    Handmark TV Guide
    PDACookBook
    Pocket Controller


    And as I said, solid as a rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g.711 View Post
    So many bugs, but I am seeing more and more people who have gotton things corrected. What do think.
    Try each for 30 days and decide yourself. Too many variables involved.

    It really comes down to form-factor preference and what you feel comfortable using.

    Flashing custom roms is one solution/option, especially if you don't like interacting socially with members of yours species IRL and you want your phone to become a major "hobby".

    I imagine WoW players and custom ROM communities overlap significantly.
    Last edited by Malatesta; 10/27/2008 at 05:21 PM.

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    I have about as many apps as NRG and mine is very stable. I could use a little better battery life, but I have learned to live with it. I keep a charger on my desk at work and in my truck. I get over 200 emails a day using push Exchange and make/receive around 25-35 calls. So, I can't really blame the 800w.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    Try each for 30 days and decide yourself. Too many variables involved.

    It really comes down to form-factor preference and what you feel comfortable using.
    I'll echo Mal's sentiments. My 800w is rock solid. If you like a front-facing keyboard, then I'd certainly recommend it. However, if you feel that you need a bigger kb and don't mind a slider, then the Pro would probably be great.

    It all comes down to personal preference regarding form factor. In polls regarding their satisfaction, the vast majority of 800w owners are happy with it.
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    My 2 cents, I came from the Treo 700wx (loved it) but I wanted more of course. Then came the 800w (finalaly) I was very impressed sure it had its issues mainly battery and Sound but with hacks and work arounds it works great. Most 800w users that arent into all the programing and hacking find it very stable. Obviously the more apps you put on it the more unstable it CAN become. I have many apps on my 800w and it runs great however im into all the geeky hacking, and programin etc. I love my 800w and would not trade it for any phone out today.

    On the other hand I bought the Mrs a Centro last Christmas as her 1st smartphone. She loved it but has now outgrown the Cetro and wants more. I believe shes ready for her 1st WM phone and I will be buying her the Touch Pro this Christmas. I believe it would fit her better than the 800w. She likes the look of the Touch Pro over the 800w and shes realy into a devices media capabillities. While the 800w can do all that I know she wont want to mess with it the way I have. I would have to agree with Mal, the give each a test drive. 1 month each and its basicly going to be up to you. I realy like the Touch pro, very cool looking, bigger screen, etc. However I will take the front facing kwerty keyboard any day over all that. The fact that the Touch is having issues with sprint Navigation is also a big negative to me. I am sure they will fix it but for now thats not cuttig it for me.

    Hope you find the best phone to fit your needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    Flashing custom roms is one solution/option, especially if you don't like interacting socially with members of yours species IRL and you want your phone to become a major "hobby".

    I imagine WoW players and custom ROM communities overlap significantly.

    I do NOT play WoW!


    (We won't discuss other MMO's that I may or may not play.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebag333 View Post
    I do NOT play WoW!


    (We won't discuss other MMO's that I may or may not play.)


    I meant everyone except Ebag, of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by yakky View Post
    I'm really happy with mine. For me. the big issue at first was battery life, but with a hack to end data connections, this phone passes my weekend without a charge test. The actual phone is very stable.
    Hi yakky. I'm interested to know what you changed in the registry that allows you to go all weekend without a charge.
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    I had an 800w, and "upgraded???" to a HTC Diamond. The only real thing I miss from the change is the hard keyboard. The size, flush screen, and the look of TF3D are things that I like a lot!

    But I will say, I love the ROMs and all of the other upgrades of the HTC folks.
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    I enjoy my 800w very much so. Here are a few things:

    1) My top buttons (Menu, Messaging) are quirky. Once in awhile, they stop responding. Same with the touch-screen. A simple battery plug takes care of that problem. I'll get it replaced eventually.

    2) My battery life has improved significantly. I download email 6-7 times a day, totaling about 35 messages (both in and out). I make about 2-3 phone calls a day (~15-20 minutes), and surf for about 20 minutes of the day. I also exchange about 25 text messages a day. By the end of the work day, I still have about 35% life remaining on the battery.

    With that said, I would still like to get my hands on the Touch Diamond Pro eventually - can't ever go wrong with a larger screen and (i think) faster processor.
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    I like my treo 800w, I don't care about the touch flo 3d stuff, it looks ok but I like my treo simple and I will never go back to a slide out keyboard. As far as stable I have SPB Diary, weatherbug, and have emailed synced all day as it arrives from 9 to 11pm at night and do text all day and varies calls on the stock battery. I like a device that can keep up, if i have to slide wait for the screen to rotate its already too slow.
    Last edited by New2This; 10/29/2008 at 03:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yirk View Post
    Hi yakky. I'm interested to know what you changed in the registry that allows you to go all weekend without a charge.
    The most significant change I did was to end the data connection after 2 minutes. The bonus is I don't get the issue of missed calls due to my data connection not dropping. This phone seems to not want to let go of a data connection. I outlined the fix in this post. My gps wasn't staying on, so that wasn't the killer for me. I use Pusheffect to wake my phone when new mail comes in. I left work at 5 on Friday, and plugged in at 9:30 Monday, here is a screenshot as soon as I plugged in. 4 or 5 phone calls, a dozen texts, about 30 minutes of surfing and about a dozen or so emails.
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    yakky, what program are using to make changes to the data connection? I am not familiar with anything in your pictures.
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    After install some apps, my battery life started draining fast. After a full charge, my phone was dead after 10 hrs with no phone calls, texting or anything (I was sleeping). Basically the phone was on standby. Since then I have took most of my apps off. T

    I had the 700wx before and I loved that, it's battery life was awesome. The only reason why I switch to 800w was because of the internal GPS, which doesn't work correctly and incompatible with my GPS program (iguidance).

    Try out the Pro, and let us know.
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    I don't think that it should take detective work to figure out what may or may not be causing the problem with the Treo 800w.

    I have hardly anything weird installed on mine. I've got the stock rom plus google maps, msn live search, and a foreign language dictionary. No video apps, music apps, games, financial software, or anything else.

    With this, I miss calls, texts, and sometimes my battery drains for no reason, I miss alarms to the point where I don't even use it anymore, etc. And I don't even care about using GPS. The thing is, there appears to be no rhyme or reason. Yesterday I couldn't make a call b/c the network signal faded despite showing 5 bars. It was windy last night, but it wasn't a hurricane or tornado.

    I am truly baffled as to whether I've got a hardware issue, software issue, or both.

    I *may* install literally nothing but the stock rom, but even if it works, what good is it if I can't put any software on it?

    Problem is, if I move to the Touch Pro, I'm not super confident that it would be more stable. But at least it'd take my phone calls.
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