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  1. #101  
    Quote Originally Posted by Inimical View Post
    I agree with VibrantRedGT and nsxprime for the most part. The battery life of the phone isn't good at all, but that's not my main concern. My concern is the audio quality of phone calls is pathetic. If there is the smallest amount of background noise, it's almost impossible to hear the other person. I can't tell you how many times I've asked someone to repeat themselves because I simply couldn't hear them. This is the same issue with or without blue tooth as well. I absolutely love the "phone" in regards to all it's other features, but what good is a phone if the call quality is horrible?

    Having said this, I won't be switching to the HTC Diamond simply because it's lack of expansion slot (how absurd!). I'll wait until the Pro comes out and make a decision at that point..that is, if I can put up with the poor call audio quality until then...
    No doubt. The phone on the 800w is basically worthless. Can't be used as a phone because of the poor audio quality and can't be used as a PDA because of the buggy GPS and total lack of battery life.
  2. #102  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    No doubt. The phone on the 800w is basically worthless. Can't be used as a phone because of the poor audio quality and can't be used as a PDA because of the buggy GPS and total lack of battery life.
    No, your post is not true.

    Phone on the 800 is good... nothing wrong with it. The audio/reception is great.

    GPS is outstanding.

    Battery life was fixed with the extended battery released earlier.
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  3. #103  
    well i just sent sprint an email requesting to swap out the 800 for the diamond..even though i really want the pro instead. i figured the diamond will have a higher resale value than the 800 when its time to flip it on ebay
  4. #104  
    No way, I'm keeping my 800w until the touchhd comes out
  5. #105  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    GPS is outstanding.
    Um, your GPS is buggy and doesn't work in standalone mode. Trust me.
  6. #106  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Um, your GPS is buggy and doesn't work in standalone mode. Trust me.
    "Buggy" and "does not work in standalone mode" are two different things. GPS works just fine for the majority of users...

    Your comments are by far not what the majority of people have experiences on this board.

    Who can trust your comments, when in every post it is the same old BS... we got it weeks ago... you don't like the 800w. lol...
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  7. #107  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    No doubt. The phone on the 800w is basically worthless. Can't be used as a phone because of the poor audio quality and can't be used as a PDA because of the buggy GPS and total lack of battery life.
    Please explain to us why on earth you have a Treo 800w (I think you mentioned you have more than one) when you spend every day here crying about it?
  8. #108  
    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    Please explain to us why on earth you have a Treo 800w (I think you mentioned you have more than one) when you spend every day here crying about it?
    If you bothered to read, I only have one 800w. Why would I want more? I love the form factor (always have) but hate all of the bugs and limitations. I may go for a Diamond or Touch Pro next month but the Treo Pro would be my #1 pick since it addresses most of the 800w's bugs and keeps the great form factor.
  9. #109  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Your comments are by far not what the majority of people have experiences on this board.
    Um, every single person on this board with an 800w has the same buggy GPS that won't work in standalone mode. Trust me. LOL
  10. #110  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Um, every single person on this board with an 800w has the same buggy GPS that won't work in standalone mode. Trust me. LOL
    Okay... let's go this route... outside of standalone mode not working to your liking (works better with agps as it grabs a lock faster), what else is buggy of gps in the 800w?
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  11. #111  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    If you bothered to read, I only have one 800w. Why would I want more? I love the form factor (always have) but hate all of the bugs and limitations. I may go for a Diamond or Touch Pro next month but the Treo Pro would be my #1 pick since it addresses most of the 800w's bugs and keeps the great form factor.
    If I'd bother to read? Spoken by the person who mistakenly lashed at me in comment #74 .

    In this comment you said:
    Not getting anywhere near 4hrs of continuous talk time on any of my 800w's.
    ...
    Which would indicate you have more than one.

    < < edited by Dieter > >
    Last edited by Dieter Bohn; 09/16/2008 at 04:39 PM.
  12. #112  
    I think by him saying that was because he is on his second unit. I know I always mention both or two because I had two as well.

    I just bought another 800w from a friend brand new in the box. I can't use it with my current plan. My new plan which starts on the 8th will allow me to bounce back and forth from a BB to Windows without having to change anything. I think I may just sell it though.
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  13. #113  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Um, every single person on this board with an 800w has the same buggy GPS that won't work in standalone mode. Trust me. LOL
    But it's not an issue with everyone, as they don't have the need for standalone. I personally don't find it buggy at all, but I also don't tend to leave the country. However, there comes a time when an issue becomes an obsession - you may have passed that phase 20 miles ago.
    Everything's Amazing and Nobody's Happy

    Treo600 --> Treo650-->PPC6700-->Treo700P-->Treo755P-->Treo800W --> Touch Pro-->Palm Pre --> EVO 4G
  14. #114  
    Quote Originally Posted by VibrantRedGT View Post
    I think by him saying that was because he is on his second unit. I know I always mention both or two because I had two as well.

    I just bought another 800w from a friend brand new in the box. I can't use it with my current plan. My new plan which starts on the 8th will allow me to bounce back and forth from a BB to Windows without having to change anything. I think I may just sell it though.
    If nsxprime has replaced a prior device he should not have used the present tense possessive in his statement.

    Instead of saying:
    Not getting anywhere near 4hrs of continuous talk time on any of my 800w's.
    He should have said, "I can't get 4 hours on my present or previous 800w's."

    And when I asked it seems he would have been able to clarify that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bujin View Post
    But it's not an issue with everyone, as they don't have the need for standalone. I personally don't find it buggy at all, but I also don't tend to leave the country. However, there comes a time when an issue becomes an obsession - you may have passed that phase 20 miles ago.
    It's true that nsxprime is WAY overboard. But Bujin, you mentioned going out of the country in relation to GPS issues. Did you know, your aGPS won't work in much of America? That is what makes this such an issue, there are literally people who can't even use the Treo 800w for GPS here in the USA, in much of the USA. While Sprint has the major urban population centers covered, many Americans don't spend all their time in major urban population centers. I've got an upcoming trip where the issue may impact me and Palm's most recent response (where they try to assert the devices is both stand alone and assisted) is very lame. For everyone's definition of the terms other than Palm, the thing does NOT have stand alone and aGPS, but we're feeling it while they twist terms. In many parts of the USA, the Treo 800w GPS is unusable.
    Last edited by Dieter Bohn; 09/16/2008 at 04:39 PM.
  15. #115  
    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    It's true that nsxprime is WAY overboard. But Bujin, you mentioned going out of the country in relation to GPS issues. Did you know, your aGPS won't work in much of America? That is what makes this such an issue, there are literally people who can't even use the Treo 800w for GPS here in the USA, in much of the USA.
    I don't disagree. I should have clarified it better, but the basic point is that we hear it over and over and over again. It may very well be an issue with folks in various parts of the country, but it's not a problem for everybody.

    The problem isn't that aGPS is buggy - it does what aGPS is supposed to do. It's all about the fact that Palm had it listed as standalone. I get it...we all get it. But it's time to accept that, hope for a fix, and make decisions based upon the information that we all have. Spamming does nothing. I would say that it makes the spammer feel better, but I doubt it even does that.
    Everything's Amazing and Nobody's Happy

    Treo600 --> Treo650-->PPC6700-->Treo700P-->Treo755P-->Treo800W --> Touch Pro-->Palm Pre --> EVO 4G
  16. #116  
    darnell and for those who are also doing this. I was at my friends Sprint store and was told a bunch of people came in complaining that the 800 is not receiving calls, texts, emails, etc. The tech turns off the EVDO session and all is fine again. Is anyone doing this? Seems it will get calls while in session but its hit or miss.
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  17. #117  
    But their twisting of terms impacts my ability to trust them in the future. It really does make me think that some years from now when I upgrade I might find something outside of Palm. Especially now that I'm no longer on POS. Now Palm does not have any of us who have an 800w mentally locked into thinking POS and now OS-wise the door is open for us to a slew of competing devices. And issues with Palm twisting terms makes one consider the competition.
  18. #118  
    Quote Originally Posted by VibrantRedGT View Post
    darnell and for those who are also doing this. I was at my friends Sprint store and was told a bunch of people came in complaining that the 800 is not receiving calls, texts, emails, etc. The tech turns off the EVDO session and all is fine again. Is anyone doing this? Seems it will get calls while in session but its hit or miss.
    Well you can't call out during an active data session, so the fact incoming is spotty is not a big surprise. I'm so used to them being exclusive, but how did they market it this time?
  19. #119  
    I don't think telling customers to end their session so other phone features can be used is a fix but this is what store techs are telling customers. Does Palm know about this? Maybe another update for a fix?
    ATT History- From 1997-2001-> Nokia 6362->Motorola StarTac->Nokia 8260.

    Nextel History From 2001-2004-> Motorola i1000-> Motorola i90c-> Motorola i95cl-> Motorola i730->Motorola i850.

    Sprint History From 2005 - Currently->Sanyo 5500-> Sanyo 5600-> Sanyo-> 7400->Sanyo 8300->Sanyo->7500-> Sanyo 9000->Sanyo 8400->Sanyo M1->PPC-6700->Treo 700wx->PPC-6800(Mogul)-> Motorola Q9C-> Treo 800w-> Curve->Treo 800w->Touch Pro->Treo Pro> Curve "M"->HTC Hero.
  20. #120  
    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    If I'd bother to read? Spoken by the person who mistakenly lashed at me in comment #74 .

    In this comment you said:


    Which would indicate you have more than one.

    Or are you having some problem keeping your statements straight?

    Well if you're not a planted troll, I expect you'll be gone in the next month.
    I've had three 800w's and every one has been as buggy as the one before it. Got it?

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