View Poll Results: Was the Rev. A box checked for you (##EVDO#)?

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  • Yes, it was checked.

    8 7.92%
  • No, it was not.

    93 92.08%
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  1. #81  
    Quote Originally Posted by azkevman View Post
    Wow...a whole new area of study for me.....

    Looks like the 800w is already programed to connect to the nearest HA using the 255.255.255.255 method....

    I am in the Phoenix area, and should have no problem getting Rev A around here.
    I became aware of these settings when I got a new sprint card for my laptop, newest EVDO Rev A card and it was so slow, used it that way for a couple of weeks. Changed the HA settings, now it is very fast. I was annoyed by the fact that sprint support won't help with any of this, so I tried all of the HA addresses that I could find and there is a big difference in speeds. Laptop cards and 800w use same settings.
  2. #82  
    With the 800w is the first time I have seen the 255.255.255.255 as the primary HA, before this the Primary has been a .76 address and the secondary has been a .77 address. You can change the primary from the .255 and see if it is an improvement. You don't need to reset the device, just make the change and run a speed test.
    I posted a link somewhere in here to the "EVDOForum.com" site where I first found the info.
  3. #83  
    After checking the Rev A box I get

    1) 786 kb/sec
    2) 625 kb/sec
    3) 757 kb/sec

    Latency at .2ms each time
  4. #84  
    I found a side effect of checking the Rev A box. It will not allow you to set your mode to roaming networks only, which I would assume means that it will prevent you from roaming.
  5. #85  
    Quote Originally Posted by blakeb View Post
    I found a side effect of checking the Rev A box. It will not allow you to set your mode to roaming networks only, which I would assume means that it will prevent you from roaming.
    I can set to roam only and make calls with the Rev A box checked.
  6. #86  
    I think what is happening is this:
    with the Rev A box unchecked, which is the default and the .255 address as the primary HA, again the default, sprint forces the data connection to a distant HA area, hence the higher latency.
    When the Rev A box is checked, the phone is allowed to connect to the closest HA and why the latency is much lower due to distance.
    I'm not sure why Sprint has it working this way.

    EDIT: I should say this is how it works in non-Rev A areas. The latency change due to checking the box is that you are allowed to connect to your closest HA site. I don't know how it works in Rev A areas since I don't have it.
    Last edited by jimh2000; 07/21/2008 at 09:02 PM.
  7. #87  
    Quote Originally Posted by jimh2000 View Post
    I think what is happening is this:
    with the Rev A box unchecked, which is the default and the .255 address as the primary HA, again the default, sprint forces the data connection to a distant HA area, hence the higher latency.
    When the Rev A box is checked, the phone is allowed to connect to the closest HA and why the latency is much lower due to distance.
    I'm not sure why Sprint has it working this way.

    I dont think so.

    I played with all of this stuff a lot in the the past and have never been able to obtain latency under 30ms consistently. RevA seems to be offering a substantial improvement here.
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  8. #88  
    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    You're still not getting RevA--probably just not in coverage, believe it or not.
    Wow - just tried 1MB again at home (lower manhattan). This is what I'm getting:

    751 kbit/sec
    .252s latency
    11.146 s d/l time

    I guess in midtown, the number of users are higher?
  9. #89  
    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    why am I crushing you guys? lol

    923 kbit/sec
    1012 kbit/sec
    983 kbit/sec

    And I get poor coverage at home ;-)
    Hmm... So my Sprint Pantec 500 card averaging 1500kbit/sec is not unreasonable then...

    Must be rev A then eh?

    I have seen short bursts of up to 3000kbit/sec with my laptop. Short burst being sustained speeds of near 3000kbit/sec for 2-3 minutes while downloading files.

    I am in the 49504 zip code which is probably the last "sprint" hold out that is seperate from the main sprint/nextel company... Wonder if this means if I get a 800w I could get quite high speeds....

    Think with my 700wx I average like 800kbit/sec but its not rev a right?

    That is NOT with the dsl tests but with actual downloading of Torrents or other downloading. when in unfettered areas I normally average about 1500 kbits/sec with this 2ghz , 2gig ram, xp pro laptop. It does seem to be an accurate rating as the files per size and time seem to be about right.
    Last edited by rulk; 07/22/2008 at 02:11 AM.
  10.    #90  
    Quote Originally Posted by rulk View Post
    Think with my 700wx I average like 800kbit/sec but its not rev a right?
    Correct. The 800w should see faster speeds than the 700wx.
  11. #91  
    Wow...before checking this option I was getting the following:
    505 kbit/sec
    571 kbit/sec
    457 kbit/sec

    After checking the option
    1467 kbit/sec
    801 kbit/sec
    728 kbit/sec
  12. #92  
    Ok so my results don't seem to be consistent. With it checked, my PIE latency dropped below .4, without it was over .4. Speed and times were the same with 300-800 kb/s and 10-30 seconds regardless if it was checked or not.

    OperaMini also didn't seem like it was affected much by the checkbox. The range was scary though, some as low as 300 with .42 latency, up to 1700 kb/s with .11 latency, and even some too fast to track with around 2 second downloads.

    My conclusion, OperaMini spanks PIE and mobile connection isn't consistent.

    I'm in Los Angeles with full bars doing these tests. Did about 5 tests for each setup.
    Last edited by WM_User45; 07/22/2008 at 07:04 PM. Reason: Additional info
  13. #93  
    You know, I bet that box doesn't do anything. Palm put it there to see how many people they could get to futz over it. With the next software update, they are going to put another check box on the screen that says "Enable Rev Turbo" and next to it it will say "For factory use only. Do not touch.". I wonder how many people will check it to see what happens.
  14.    #94  
    Quote Originally Posted by kwarner View Post
    You know, I bet that box doesn't do anything. Palm put it there to see how many people they could get to futz over it. With the next software update, they are going to put another check box on the screen that says "Enable Rev Turbo" and next to it it will say "For factory use only. Do not touch.". I wonder how many people will check it to see what happens.
    A button marked "Do not press this button" would be more effective.
  15. #95  
    Quote Originally Posted by kwarner View Post
    You know, I bet that box doesn't do anything. Palm put it there to see how many people they could get to futz over it. With the next software update, they are going to put another check box on the screen that says "Enable Rev Turbo" and next to it it will say "For factory use only. Do not touch.". I wonder how many people will check it to see what happens.
    Wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something?
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    #96  
    How the heck, my supervisor has a 800 and we did the 1mb mobile speed test with the rev a checked and he got 416k and I did the same test on my 700wx and got 586k wth??
  17.    #97  
    There are other settings that can effect speed. The Rev. A box is only one of them.

    For example your boss might be on a poor (slow) HA server, while you are on a fast one.
  18. #98  
    Did anyone ever figure out if setting the Rev A box does indeed stop the phone from functioning properly?

    Thanks,
    Rich
  19. #99  
    I tested 5 times each. First is without the box checked.

    839 kb/s .184 s latency 9.944 s dl
    791 .235 10.559
    818 .239 10.172
    799 .212 10.454
    638 .374 13.199

    Average:
    777 .249 10.867

    Now with the box checked:

    531 .248 15.636
    740 .196 11.258
    495 .447 16.731
    451 .238 18.320
    526 .258 15.806

    Average:
    548.6 .2774 15.550

    So that's an average of 15.5 seconds download time for 1MB with the box checked versus 10.8 seconds download time with it unchecked.

    This is a bit interesting. In two weeks I will be in another city for the week on business and will have to test this theory there as well to see what results I get.
    Last edited by wwejason; 08/04/2008 at 05:10 PM.
  20. #100  
    Usually, it is not possible to select which kind of HDR (EVDO) you can access,

    Does anyone have/make a screenshot of the ##DEBUG, EVDO screen between EVDO Rev0, and another ##debug screenshot for Rev A?
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