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  1. #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by crazie.eddie View Post
    Garmin & TomTom6/7 have voice prompted turn by turn directions. They will not announce the actual street name.

    TomTom6/7 & Garmin can use the inernal GPS, but with TomTom, you need to use GPSGate.

    TomTom6 is the latest version that is available for PPC. TomTom7 is a better upgrade, but it's only built in the HTC Diamond, though it is floating around. It's even floated on0my 800w.

    Garmin has a very simple UI and has the latest map, but appears to lag on my 800w.

    TomTom6/7 has more user options, such as alert for POI's (gas station, golf courses, etc) that is in your route. TomTom7 has an option to alert you if you are speeding. It actually displays the speed limt & your speed.

    TomTom6 can use version 6 and, I've read, version 5 maps.

    TomTom7 can use version 7 and version 6 maps.
    hmm, did not know that neither announces the street names. that is a bit disappointing.
  2. #42  
    From what I've read, IGuidance does announce the actual street names, but is not support on 320x320 screens.

    Since my only experience with GPS navs is with TomTom & Garmin on both the 700wx & 800w. I found that if the software & maps are up to date, there's no need for the nav app to announce the actual street name.
  3. #43  
    it is not a matter of whether the software and maps are up to date; if the unit announces the name of the street and verbal directions, it allows the driver to simply listen rather than to have to keep glancing at the screen. that is the beauty of the text-to-speech feature.
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    what is the purpose of GpsGate w/Garmin? Is it to avoid the initial 'gps not available' msg that always pops up when starting Garmin cold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paigoomein View Post
    it is not a matter of whether the software and maps are up to date; if the unit announces the name of the street and verbal directions, it allows the driver to simply listen rather than to have to keep glancing at the screen. that is the beauty of the text-to-speech feature.
    If the software and map isn't up to date, it may not tell you to turn on the street. Garmin and TomTom tell me to turn in the next 500 yards or miles. When I approach the street to turn on, it tells me to turn on that street. No need to announce the street name. When you are telling your buddy how to take you home, you probably don't tell the street name, but more than likely, just tell them to turn on the 2nd street left or at the next stop sight/light.
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    #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by mgriffith View Post
    Bumping this thread.

    I am in the same boat: Legit copy of Garmin Mobile 20 (XT) and scheduled to swap my 700p for an 800w (then move the 700p to replace the wife's Razor and then move her T3 palm apps to the Treo.....) tonight.

    I have searched high and low (in the forums and on the net) for any clue as to getting Garmin to recognize the internal GPS instead of only searching for Bluetooth devices. Found bupkis.

    Any suggestions or points in the correct direction from those who have found the magic solution are greatly appreciated.

    Wish me luck on the triple swap! This could be an interesting evening.
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  7. #47  
    Quote Originally Posted by paigoomein View Post
    for those looking to get Garmin XT (myself included), it is available on Amazon.com for $80.99, no tax, free shipping.

    http://www.amazon.com/GARMIN-010-110...bosnation0e-20
    I see this comes pre-installed on a 1GB card. Can you simply copy files over to your own larger 8GB card? I didn't think that was allowed.

    How else can you get this software that isn't already installed on a SD card? Can you get it on CD?

    Thanks
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    #48  
    Quote Originally Posted by jdsnov73 View Post
    I see this comes pre-installed on a 1GB card. Can you simply copy files over to your own larger 8GB card? I didn't think that was allowed.

    How else can you get this software that isn't already installed on a SD card? Can you get it on CD?

    Thanks
    I was wondering about this myself. I got Garmin XT along with my Garmin Mobile 20 (GPS device/car kit) all for $50 (Woot.com was having a sale). I would like to use the software on my new 800w (I got it when I still had my 700wx), so was wondering whether a) I could do this, or is the software permenantly linked only to that device, and b) if it's possible to transfer stuff to a larger card. These microsd cards are tiny and look pretty fragile, I don't want to be swapping them every time that I want to use navigation!
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  9. #49  
    You can move it to an 8Gb card, but I believe Garmin will associate the new card and create a new DeviceID, thus disabling the map. But with some non-Garmin "Tools" (not approve by Garmin), you can re-enable the maps.
  10. #50  
    Well, I found this post in another thread and it walks through the process:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...7&postcount=13

    Anybody done this and verified it works for the 800W?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdsnov73 View Post
    Well, I found this post in another thread and it walks through the process:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...7&postcount=13

    Anybody done this and verified it works for the 800W?
    Great, thanks!
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  12. #52  
    From I've read in other forums, the latest Keygen is 1.5 by Jetmouse. 1.5 should have 2009 NT maps
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    #53  
    i gave garmin xt working, but the screen turns off in accordance with my power save settings. i believe i have gone through all the garmin settings in an effort to find something that would keep the screen on. do i have to change the setting on my 800? tomtom knows better. also garmin is rather slow to redraw the screen.
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    #54  
    Garmin XT works quite well with the 320x320 screen, but not perfectly.

    One minor issue I've noticed is on the screen where you can see which satellites it sees, the satellite signal strength bars at the bottom of the screen are chopped off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgott View Post
    i gave garmin xt working, but the screen turns off in accordance with my power save settings. i believe i have gone through all the garmin settings in an effort to find something that would keep the screen on. do i have to change the setting on my 800? tomtom knows better. also garmin is rather slow to redraw the screen.
    I found the redraw to lag as well, but it appears that the voice prompting is more accurate. Meaning, although Garmin appears to shows that you haven't approaches the intersection to turn yet, Garmin will already tell you to turn.

    As far as the screen settings, I never had any issues. I have the Backlight Overide in Garmin set to Always On.
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    #56  
    Ok, I can run Garmin XT, but it tells me it can't find my GPS. I've gathered from reading that I need portsplitter or GPSGate. I got portsplitter but have no clue as to what to use for the various ports. I played around with different values but to no avail. Any help would be appreciated!
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  17.    #57  
    GarminXT should work natively. No need for the other software to manipulate the ports.

    Use the default settings. In GPS manager, GPS program port set to GPD1, GPS Hardware port to Internal GPS device, and Check manage gps automatically.

    Step outside and run google map or ms live to verify you are picking up a signal, if so turn on garmin.

    Of course make sure you 911 location is set on, in case you turned it off to save batteries or are using hanips gps_tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvdmon View Post
    Ok, I can run Garmin XT, but it tells me it can't find my GPS. I've gathered from reading that I need portsplitter or GPSGate. I got portsplitter but have no clue as to what to use for the various ports. I played around with different values but to no avail. Any help would be appreciated!
    You probably need to unlock Garmin for your device.
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    #59  
    Live works fine and gets my GPS position pretty quickly. When I run Garmin Mobile XT, it prompts me to:

    Purchase & Go
    Begin Free Trial
    Enter Product Key
    or Connect to a Garmin GPS

    I tried hitting the first two and they say that nothing is available.
    I try entering a product key, but apparently I don't have one. Mobile 20 came with a piece of paper with an unlock code and a serial number, but that's it, no product key.

    When I try to connect to Garmin GPS, of course it doesn't find one. It DOES then ask me if I want to connect to another kind of GPS, which I say yes to, and then it tells me that the software is only set up to connect to Garmin GPS devices.

    I did enter a different unlock code based on the instructions in that note that was posted. I entered it for gmapsupp.unl, although I couldn't find the sw.unl file on my card...
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  20. #60  
    sw.unl unlocks Garmin software. gmapsupp.unl unlocks the map. Those are both text files, that you can edit/create. Both need to be located in the Garmin folder on the SD card.
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