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    I wonder how the hard OK, start, etc. keys work? You dont see a "crease" or whatever. Are they touch sensitive? The touch sensitive keys on my Lenovo IdeaPad work like s**t. I hope they are mechanical some how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwisholland View Post
    I wonder how the hard OK, start, etc. keys work? You dont see a "crease" or whatever. Are they touch sensitive? The touch sensitive keys on my Lenovo IdeaPad work like s**t. I hope they are mechanical some how.
    The look like the Centro's: mechanical.

    They are flush with the device and recess when pressed. I'm okay with the design as if gives the device a very low profile overall.

    I'm just psyched about a dedicated email and calendar key as I find those to be imperative on such a device.

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    I have never touched a Centro, so thanks. Its to small for me. I picture my niece using one. I hope the 800 isnt too small for my electricians fingers.

    I'm just psyched about a dedicated email and calendar key as I find those to be imperative on such a device.
    I agree. I love the extra keys.
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    Well the stats look good. If they can just get the stinking thing to sync properly we might be in business.
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    #25  
    I am extremely excited for this device, when I look at my 700wx and then this picture it looks like a huge difference in thickness.. Plus, with all of the high end specs this thing is going to do everything I could want out of a smartphone - including full html email that retains font, tons of storage, and even GPS! Another thing... I've always wanted a black treo! I can't believe how much people are bashing it at Treonauts... These pictures are not professional, redone images like those they show of the 750 and Blackberry bold. I can't wait to hold it... I'm sure that when Andrew does over at Treonauts he will be impressed..
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    I like these images actually. Someone posted about having a glossy black finish on the other thread, to match with other phones... I really hope not, I hate glossy black, too many fingerprints.

    Wifi button and that much RAM is awesome. I don't need the IR port, and doubt many do, but its nice.

    I'm still unsure about a square screen for WM, not sure how the programs will work with it. (My q9c is the only WM device I've used.)

    Ringer switch is a necessity though, its sorely missed on the q9c. As long as the GPS can work independently of cell signal I'm interested, though I'm not sure about a WM Pro device (I've heard WM Pro isn't all that good at one-handed use like WM standard is, and isn't quite as good at memory management.) Still, I'll be watching closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post
    I like these images actually. Someone posted about having a glossy black finish on the other thread, to match with other phones... I really hope not, I hate glossy black, too many fingerprints.

    Wifi button and that much RAM is awesome. I don't need the IR port, and doubt many do, but its nice.

    I'm still unsure about a square screen for WM, not sure how the programs will work with it. (My q9c is the only WM device I've used.)

    Ringer switch is a necessity though, its sorely missed on the q9c. As long as the GPS can work independently of cell signal I'm interested, though I'm not sure about a WM Pro device (I've heard WM Pro isn't all that good at one-handed use like WM standard is, and isn't quite as good at memory management.) Still, I'll be watching closely.

    Square screen is no problem, the 320x320 res would be the only reason reason for concern with software compatability and I am not.

    WM Pro is 10x the OS standard/smartphone is IMO. I use my 700wx one handed all day. 6.0 professional is a memory hog but as you said there is plenty of memory to spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robber View Post
    Square screen is no problem, the 320x320 res would be the only reason reason for concern with software compatability and I am not.

    WM Pro is 10x the OS standard/smartphone is IMO. I use my 700wx one handed all day. 6.0 professional is a memory hog but as you said there is plenty of memory to spare.

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    Anybody have a run down on the known specs for sure? I was going to get a curve tell i seen this. hmmm... got me thinking now.
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    Looks great! Even if thats not the final version I'm sure the final version will be just as good. I've never seen a bad looking treo. Cant wait!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tritan View Post
    Anybody have a run down on the known specs for sure? I was going to get a curve tell i seen this. hmmm... got me thinking now.
    lol, you might find those specs in this thread:

    800w: Updated Specs and features

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  11. #31  
    damn i hope this comes out soon and is half of what we think its gonna be
  12. #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by robber View Post
    Square screen is no problem, the 320x320 res would be the only reason reason for concern with software compatability and I am not.

    WM Pro is 10x the OS standard/smartphone is IMO. I use my 700wx one handed all day. 6.0 professional is a memory hog but as you said there is plenty of memory to spare.

    -Rob
    I used to think the Pro OS was vastly superior to the Standard OS, but now that my BJII has been my primary workhorse for the past 2 months, I haven't sacrificed much in terms of useability, and in some cases, it has improved. I still do think Pro is better, and I can't wait to get another QWERTYbar WM6.1 Pro device with a flush screen.
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    I hope esn changing is the 'same' as the novatels.. since both of them use MSM6800... (but would need to open up the diag port/status port/GPS port first)

    It is strange that the WM is still version 5 and not 6..? otherwise we can import it into the 700wx rom cooking project
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    Quote Originally Posted by kocoman View Post
    It is strange that the WM is still version 5 and not 6..? otherwise we can import it into the 700wx rom cooking project
    It's not WM5, it's WM6.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    It's not WM5, it's WM6.1.
    ok. (I guess WM has very confusing version numbering..OS 5.2.1944) or maybe its just non-upgraded prototype


    From:
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=163988

    has anyone been able to get these files:

    libModemUpdater.dll
    ModemUpdater.exe
    NPRG6800B.hex
    amss.mbn
    amsshd.mbn
    partition.mbn
    02.PRI
    sprint_60611.prl

    maybe it would help ebag333 with his 700wx WM6?
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    Mal;

    Are you at liberty to state the source of your confirnmed info regarding the top-mounted wi-fi switch/button on the 800w? So far, we've only seen shots of the 800w from the front and the right side (showing the IR window & card door). Nothing yet of the left side, bottom connector, rear body or top panel.

    So has Palm decided to go with both the traditional Treo ring/vibrate switch up top as well as a wi-fi toggle?

    Any word yet if the 2.5mm headphone jack is still present or has it been replaced by 3.5mm or did they dump it entirely to go entirely Bluetooth?
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    I just want to say Verizon better have a black one, like in the picture. That thing looks killer! Im in for a non-camera unit as soon as they come out (to VZW).

    As for all the 'stuff' it will have, Im sure it will be more than we have now. If they miss a few things or they dont work how we all think they should, who cares, still moving forward. Im under the impression all the PDA companies are working on something bigger than "does it have this and that". When it comes out, everyone will be like: holy man, I gotta have that!!!!!! Dont ask me what it will be, Im just a moron with a cool phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkklife View Post
    Mal;

    Are you at liberty to state the source of your confirnmed info regarding the top-mounted wi-fi switch/button on the 800w?
    Sorry, I can't But I'm sure we'll all know in the next few weeks/months, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by hkklife View Post
    So has Palm decided to go with both the traditional Treo ring/vibrate switch up top as well as a wi-fi toggle?
    Yup. One is a switch, the other a button.

    I don't know if the button is assignable, but I wouldn't doubt it. I'm not sure what I'm going to use more often Wifi or GPS, but it'd be cool to attach GPS to that button.

    Guess I'm gotta get in touch with the developer of AEButton Plus so we can add that one to his app--then that button can have 4 functions, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by hkklife View Post
    Any word yet if the 2.5mm headphone jack is still present or has it been replaced by 3.5mm or did they dump it entirely to go entirely Bluetooth?
    Word is going to be disappointing for many:

    Dumped entirely for BT
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    Well, almost entirely. Like current HTC devices there will be a micro-USB-to-3.5mm headphone adapter included.

    Seems like only iPhone and RIM are the last holdouts for built-in 3.5. With the iPhone, since there is no a2dp it's understandable. RIM though is certainly bucking the trend.

    Personally, I'm generally okay without the 3.5mm and prefer a2dp, but I can see the argument from both sides.

    Also, the leaked images are not the final design. That's not to suggest there is some major overhaul, but there will be refinements as they still have to dress it up (right now it's like a car without bumpers & trim).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    Sorry, I can't But I'm sure we'll all know in the next few weeks/months, lol.

    Yup. One is a switch, the other a button.

    I don't know if the button is assignable, but I wouldn't doubt it. I'm not sure what I'm going to use more often Wifi or GPS, but it'd be cool to attach GPS to that button.

    Guess I'm gotta get in touch with the developer of AEButton Plus so we can add that one to his app--then that button can have 4 functions, lol.

    Word is going to be disappointing for many:

    Dumped entirely for BT
    .

    Well, almost entirely. Like current HTC devices there will be a micro-USB-to-3.5mm headphone adapter included.

    Seems like only iPhone and RIM are the last holdouts for built-in 3.5. With the iPhone, since there is no a2dp it's understandable. RIM though is certainly bucking the trend.

    Personally, I'm generally okay without the 3.5mm and prefer a2dp, but I can see the argument from both sides.

    Also, the leaked images are not the final design. That's not to suggest there is some major overhaul, but there will be refinements as they still have to dress it up (right now it's like a car without bumpers & trim).
    Thanks for all the info!
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    Ditto. Mal, thanks for the updates/clarifications. I think that it's definitely safe to say that the major specs of the 800w are determined & looking good and we just need to hang in there a bit longer until the small details materialize.

    One beef I still have though: I don't know if I'd call the current smartphone industry trendsetters RIM & Apple "holdouts" in regards to the 3.5mm headphone jack. BT A2DP is sort of a doubled-edged sword for most folks and a real love or hate affair for others (myself included). I think that RIM & Apple both feel that the pros & flexibility of the old school 3.5mm jack outweigh the negatives. More so than anything else, this is something I wish Palm would relent on. In particular, the Centro could have a LOT more appeal to the younger hipster crowd with a stereo headphone jack but that's not an argument for the 800w forum...

    Two final questions:

    Any idea of the 800w is dual OS architecture-friendly? That is, are we possibly looking at the basis for several future handsets (ala 700w/wx/p shared hardware)? The 800w innards would serve (screen resolution & size aside) as a reasonably compelling platform for a debut Nova device in '09.

    Finally, any word on who Palm's ODM is for the 800w? HTC, presumably but Asus did the most recent WM Treo (500) so anything is possible.
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