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  1. #21  
    Trust me, I turned off the auto advance on the Q. Still slower than the 700p with keycaps. At least you agree with me about the 700p loading apps faster than any WM5 device. No arguing about that one.
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    I didnt say any wm5 device...
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    #23  
    i had the p, switched to the w, now i want my p back. the 240x240 resolution is becoming more and more of a problem for me because i like playing a lot of games
  4.    #24  
    Is it really that big of a difference? I don't play games on the Treo, but I do intend on watching Slingbox (which u can't do with the P), and I take alot of pictures.
  5.    #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    A clean 700p has less lag than a clean 700wx, ESPECIALLY when opening programs. PalmOS is much faster than WM5. Stay away from the Q since it has a ton of lag. Registry hacks will help but that thing misses keypresses like crazy.
    The lag that bothers me isn't opening and closing programs. It's when you're within the phone application and it doesn't mute or hang up properly. I can deal with slowness in opening apps.
  6. #26  
    I got a P just to screw around with and am throughly unimpressed. It is really no different than a 650. It is the same old boring interface that we all had back in 1999.

    The 700p is remarkably similar to the 650. Remarkably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robber View Post
    I got a P just to screw around with and am throughly unimpressed. It is really no different than a 650. It is the same old boring interface that we all had back in 1999.

    The 700p is remarkably similar to the 650. Remarkably.
    You mean the same old ultra-efficient interface that lets you do what you want easily? That one?

    With one inexpensive add-on (LauncherX), my 650 was my favorite device ever. Limitations on web browser and other issue is what got me to move over to the WX and WM.

    I have spent a little money now to get my phone to have more of the look and feel of LauncherX from my now-past Palm days, along with making the "x" actually close applications except when I want them to keep running. Unfortunately I cannot truly duplicate it, or I would.

    My Palm was more reliable, more stable, and generally a better device with the exceptions of:

    1. Multitasking limitations. Mostly I want tasks to stop when in the background to save processor cycles, but some do need to keep running sometimes.
    2. Web browsing limitations.
    3. E-mail limitation - I could not sync through work through the internet. I THINK I can now, but I will need a more robust fully Nortel IPSEC compatible VPN client, for which I have not yet formed over the required $70.

    Those are significant issues. I loved my simple, straightforward LauncherX look-and-feel. I also do miss the 320x320 resolution. I also miss the truly vast array of freeware available for the Palm.

    I would never bash the Palm OS. It has issues, sure, and is badly in need of a serious update, but WM has plenty of issues, too, and the multitasking is somewhat less than robust, too. Lots of tasks completely take over the device.

    Anyway, if it was me and I could wait, I'd strongly consider waiting to see what the 755P actually runs out to be. Who knows? Maybe it really will be palm-over-Linux. Or maybe they will have solved all the major issues in some other way. I kind of doubt it, but we'll know in only a couple of months.
    Last edited by westronic; 03/17/2007 at 01:21 PM.
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    [QUOTE=westronic;1221083]My Palm was more reliable, more stable, and generally a better device with the exceptions of:

    1. Multitasking limitations. Mostly I want tasks to stop when in the background to save processor cycles, but some do need to keep running sometimes.
    2. Web browsing limitations.
    3. E-mail limitation - I could not sync through work through the internet. I THINK I can now, but I will need a more robust fully Nortel IPSEC compatible VPN client, for which I have not yet formed over the required $70.
    QUOTE]

    I vote this as the best quote of 2007 thus far.
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    I can't take the P phone lag, apps I can live with too, but when I can't get to an incoming call I want to throw it as far as I can! I have been trying to figure out what to do and for a slider, the "Vox" looks good although I think a exposed keypad is best like the Treo. I have been very attracted to the T-Mobile Dash (HTC 620), wonder if WM5 can be updated (doubt it) or maybe they will start shipping with WM6 which is supposd to be a little friendlier and has a few fixes. T-Mobile was not all that bad, VZN has a little better coverage in a few areas where I live and work, but I still get dropped calls at about the same rate.

    Thoughts on the Dash?
    Never underestimate the power of freedom!

    Treo 600, 650, 700P and now 755P.
  10. #30  
    My boss uses the Dash. Well, the unbranded HTC unit. It is really, really nice-not quite as thin as my Q, but probably a better form overall. Very rounded, and comfortable. It is light, but feels solid.

    Wifi is nice too.
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  11. #31  
    Dash is awesome, no bones about it. When my aunt comes by I always play with it.. feels faster & more solid than the Q and.. it's beautiful imo!

    BUT no 3G and GSM..t-mobile's shabby indoor coverage around these parts.. sets me straight pretty quickly. Hopefully HTC could make a device like that for CDMA one of these days the way they've done with the TyTN (Titan).
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