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  1.    #1  
    Successful in getting DUN to work with both wired and BT. Getting about 250Kbps that way; not bragging rites, but acceptable. Read all of the HSDPA Sticky posting, did the FIT4CAT install, etc, and everything looks good there. However, nowhere can I find the procedure for connecting my notebook to the internet via UMAT or HSDPA (I am in Santa Clara, CA, reputed to be an "H" area). My display indicates "U" service.

    Would appreciate a step by step of how to actually connect the notebook via the HSDPA, or a link to where it is found. Saw much about PDAnet, etc; is third party software required for this missing step?
    Mike Caldwell
  2. #2  
    I live in the same area as you. I've used HSDPA in Santa Clara.
    The Treo 750 won't ever show you an "H" for HSPDA. It'll only show you a "U" being on the UMTS network which means both UMTS & HSDPA for data. So you don't have any indicator to tell you which you're connected to. Same thing with the "G" for GSM, it only tells you you're on the GSM network, not that you're using GPRS or EDGE.

    chelsel on the HSDPA thread in this forum says the same thing. He's only getting the same speeds you are tethering.
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...86#post1197586
    I'm also using the hack from that thread which I have also posted at my site http://www.gadgetech.info/
    So if that's the same one, all I know is that I AM getting HSDPA on my 750, but I haven't yet tested tethering.

    PDANet is a decent app. It was really designed back in the Treo 600 days when 'thering' wasn't at all straightforward. But he has kept up the app and it makes a good alternative to the standard tethering method. It also is a great workaround for phones that have had tethering disabled (like the Cingular Treo 650 did for a while.)
    PDANet also uses data on the phone the way any other app does, so if the carrier can see that you're tethering, I think it helps hide it.
    I personally use PDANet because on my laptops I always seem to spend an hour trying to get tethering to work over wired or bluetooth and get frustrated. PDANet is very convenient. It's not free but I find the convenience is worth it. It is also designed to make sure the port that it's using is configured to handle the high data rates.

    I could suggets you try it (there's a free trial) and see if it works better.
    Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions of what to try.
    Hopefully someone else will post with a good tip.
    Treo 750 (AT&T)
    Treo600->Treo650->Cing8525->Blackberry 8700c->Treo750->AT&T Tilt->Treo750->iPhone 3G
  3.    #3  
    I guess here is what I'm missing: I launched DUN by going to the Network Connections icon on my notebook. It dialed the *99# number, and that's all it took. I assume that is a G connection. I called myself during a session and as soon as I answered the connection was dropped. My understanding is that with U/H I should be able to have voice and data simultaneously. In fact, as a trial, I did so without going through the notebook, just Treo IE and a phone call; worked fine. I assume that is evidence of a 3G hookup.

    So how do I connect the notebook using "non-G" technology?
    Mike Caldwell
  4. #4  
    Quote Originally Posted by oldmike View Post
    Successful in getting DUN to work with both wired and BT. Getting about 250Kbps that way; not bragging rites, but acceptable. Read all of the HSDPA Sticky posting, did the FIT4CAT install, etc, and everything looks good there. However, nowhere can I find the procedure for connecting my notebook to the internet via UMAT or HSDPA (I am in Santa Clara, CA, reputed to be an "H" area). My display indicates "U" service.

    Would appreciate a step by step of how to actually connect the notebook via the HSDPA, or a link to where it is found. Saw much about PDAnet, etc; is third party software required for this missing step?
    If you want to connect via BT follow the steps below

    1) pair the treo with the pc

    2) in the advanced tab of th BT modem insert the following string

    +cgdcont=1,"IP","apn"

    (where apn is the access point of your provider)

    3) do a DUN connection calling the number *99#

    If you want to connect via usb follow the istructions here

    http://kb.palm.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBC...1,Case=Obj(625)


    Note that you can't get HSDPA speeds via BT because the bandwidth limitation. Via BT you can reach almost the same speed of UMTS even if you are in HSDPA coverage and your treo is HSDPA enabled.
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    Siemens ME45 > S55 > SL55
    Motorola 6200 > C333 > C350 > V547 > E1000 > A1000
    Nokia 7110 > 6230 > 6630 > 6230i> E60 > N80
    Panasonic G500 > GD90 > VS3
    Philips Fisio 820 > 825
    Palm Treo 650 > Treo 750V
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  5. #5  
    You can do voice and data at the same time.

    However, if you are connected using DUN, you cannot use voice and data at the same time. Not sure where exactly I found this, but it is a limitation on the Treo, not necessarily on the technology.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldmike View Post
    I guess here is what I'm missing: I launched DUN by going to the Network Connections icon on my notebook. It dialed the *99# number, and that's all it took. I assume that is a G connection. I called myself during a session and as soon as I answered the connection was dropped. My understanding is that with U/H I should be able to have voice and data simultaneously. In fact, as a trial, I did so without going through the notebook, just Treo IE and a phone call; worked fine. I assume that is evidence of a 3G hookup.

    So how do I connect the notebook using "non-G" technology?
    Main Phone: Treo 270/600/650/700w/700p/750v/Motorola Q/iPhone
    Tried but sold: Motorola Q/Nokia E61/700wx/HTC TyTN/Treo 680
  6. #6  
    Quote Originally Posted by bcaslis View Post
    You can do voice and data at the same time.

    However, if you are connected using DUN, you cannot use voice and data at the same time. Not sure where exactly I found this, but it is a limitation on the Treo, not necessarily on the technology.
    This is only a stupid MS behaviour.

    When a call is made the dun connection drops, however you can reconnect after the call is established.
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    Ericsson/Sonyericsson SH 668 > SH868 > SH888 > R320 >T39m > T65 >T68mc > R380 > P800 > Z600 > Z1010 > K608i
    Siemens ME45 > S55 > SL55
    Motorola 6200 > C333 > C350 > V547 > E1000 > A1000
    Nokia 7110 > 6230 > 6630 > 6230i> E60 > N80
    Panasonic G500 > GD90 > VS3
    Philips Fisio 820 > 825
    Palm Treo 650 > Treo 750V
    Samsung ZV40 > SGH-Z560
    NEC 338 > 616
  7.    #7  
    Sultor, sorry to be so lame, but.... I assume by the Advanced Tab on the BT modem you mean on the Treo? I get no such tab at settings/connections/BT. If on the notebook, I have an additional problem; this is a new Sony VAIO, and they decided it would be cool to have a custom interface to the Toschiba BT stack, so it is all different and I do not have a BT icon in Control Panel. But I'm thinking you mean in the dialog for the Dial-Up icon under Network Connections, and I only have the Vaio modem on the list; there is no entry for a BT modem and I see no way to add. But, with the G connection, it found the phone somehow, so.....

    I guess I need more explicit instructions as to where to enter the string. I assume "app" is "wap.congular".
    Last edited by oldmike; 02/17/2007 at 08:17 PM.
    Mike Caldwell
  8.    #8  
    Oh; the link to the USB info returned an error message from Palm; maybe they took it down?
    Mike Caldwell
  9. #9  
    Sultor, sorry to be so lame, but.... I assume by the Advanced Tab on the BT modem you mean on the Treo?
    I mean on the pc.

    Look at the attacched picture.
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    Ericsson/Sonyericsson SH 668 > SH868 > SH888 > R320 >T39m > T65 >T68mc > R380 > P800 > Z600 > Z1010 > K608i
    Siemens ME45 > S55 > SL55
    Motorola 6200 > C333 > C350 > V547 > E1000 > A1000
    Nokia 7110 > 6230 > 6630 > 6230i> E60 > N80
    Panasonic G500 > GD90 > VS3
    Philips Fisio 820 > 825
    Palm Treo 650 > Treo 750V
    Samsung ZV40 > SGH-Z560
    NEC 338 > 616
  10. #10  
    Quote Originally Posted by oldmike View Post
    Oh; the link to the USB info returned an error message from Palm; maybe they took it down?

    Sorry but the forum engine for same reason not retain the correct link

    Code:
    http://kb.palm.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=63,E=0000000000522706321,K=7907,Sxi=10,Case=Obj(625)

    Plese copy and paste the above link in your browser address field
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    Ericsson/Sonyericsson SH 668 > SH868 > SH888 > R320 >T39m > T65 >T68mc > R380 > P800 > Z600 > Z1010 > K608i
    Siemens ME45 > S55 > SL55
    Motorola 6200 > C333 > C350 > V547 > E1000 > A1000
    Nokia 7110 > 6230 > 6630 > 6230i> E60 > N80
    Panasonic G500 > GD90 > VS3
    Philips Fisio 820 > 825
    Palm Treo 650 > Treo 750V
    Samsung ZV40 > SGH-Z560
    NEC 338 > 616
  11. #11  
    his is a new Sony VAIO, and they decided it would be cool to have a custom interface to the Toschiba BT stack, so it is all different and I do not have a BT icon in Control Panel. But I'm thinking you mean in the dialog for the Dial-Up icon under Network Connections, and I only have the Vaio modem on the list; there is no entry for a BT modem and I see no way to add
    Usually the BT modem appear after the pairing process.
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    Ericsson/Sonyericsson SH 668 > SH868 > SH888 > R320 >T39m > T65 >T68mc > R380 > P800 > Z600 > Z1010 > K608i
    Siemens ME45 > S55 > SL55
    Motorola 6200 > C333 > C350 > V547 > E1000 > A1000
    Nokia 7110 > 6230 > 6630 > 6230i> E60 > N80
    Panasonic G500 > GD90 > VS3
    Philips Fisio 820 > 825
    Palm Treo 650 > Treo 750V
    Samsung ZV40 > SGH-Z560
    NEC 338 > 616
  12.    #12  
    Back to the "Sony problem": I do not have that dialog. I have nothing regarding BT in Control Panel. The BT panel from Sony allows me to connect to the Treo. There is a Properties dialog with severl tabs, but all that is listed under Advanced is manual security settings. The DUN icon under Network Connections brings up that same dialog box (and, even when connected, only the Sony modem is listed under Devices).
    Mike Caldwell
  13.    #13  
    Maybe I'm asking the wrong question. If I have HSDPA enabled (using FIX4CAT, etc), do I still connect to the internet using the DUN procedure, just that it is faster?
    Mike Caldwell
  14. #14  
    Quote Originally Posted by oldmike View Post
    Back to the "Sony problem": I do not have that dialog.
    That dialog has nothing to do with the BT stack, is the standard modem dialog and is present in every modem propertys dialog..

    With the toshiba BT stack you don't get any "bt modem" but a "standard 33600 Kbps modem"

    The DUN icon under Network Connections brings up that same dialog box (and, even when connected, only the Sony modem is listed under Devices).
    Today 03:44 AM
    When you pair the treo a modem installation starts, if not you have same problem with your BT stack or with your windows installation.

    Maybe I'm asking the wrong question. If I have HSDPA enabled (using FIX4CAT, etc), do I still connect to the internet using the DUN procedure, just that it is faster?
    FIT4CAT is absolutely not required, just copy the sethsdpa.exe in the \windows directory an the realated link in the \windows\startup directory.

    As already said, you can connect via BT or via USB in HSDPA, but via BT you can't notice any speed difference from plain UMTS.
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    Ericsson/Sonyericsson SH 668 > SH868 > SH888 > R320 >T39m > T65 >T68mc > R380 > P800 > Z600 > Z1010 > K608i
    Siemens ME45 > S55 > SL55
    Motorola 6200 > C333 > C350 > V547 > E1000 > A1000
    Nokia 7110 > 6230 > 6630 > 6230i> E60 > N80
    Panasonic G500 > GD90 > VS3
    Philips Fisio 820 > 825
    Palm Treo 650 > Treo 750V
    Samsung ZV40 > SGH-Z560
    NEC 338 > 616
  15.    #15  
    Thanks for your patience. The bottom line, I think, is that no matter what the technology is, it is still a DUN connection, just that some are faster than others, some allow voice and data and some do not.

    That being said, I think my current problem is not how to connect using HSDPA, but that I don't seem to actually be getting it. I have all the recommended files in the recommended places, but I only get about 300K at dslreports.com/mspeed from the phone itself. So I think I'll consider this particular issue (how to connect) closed, with my thanks, and pursue the "why I don't get HSDPA" at the thread dedicated to that.
    Mike Caldwell
  16. #16  
    The bottom line, I think, is that no matter what the technology is, it is still a DUN connection, just that some are faster than others, some allow voice and data and some do not.
    No here is the case wheres the tecnology counts.

    In umts you can get 384Kbps

    In hsdpa 1.8 you can get 1,6Mbps (not 1.8 as the name suggest)

    In bt 1.2 you can get about 480 kbps (about 400 whith the crappy treo's hardware).

    Now you can understand that is impossible to get more than the BT speed even if you are connected in HASDPA because simply the BT HW is a bottleneck in the data flow.

    That being said, I think my current problem is not how to connect using HSDPA, but that I don't seem to actually be getting it. I have all the recommended files in the recommended places, but I only get about 300K at dslreports.com/mspeed from the phone itself.
    Try this:

    #1 Remove fit4cat, delete the other two files from your treo.

    #2 Install the attacched file (unzip it first)

    #3 reboot the phone

    #4 test your speed with dslreports.
    Attached Files Attached Files
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    Ericsson/Sonyericsson SH 668 > SH868 > SH888 > R320 >T39m > T65 >T68mc > R380 > P800 > Z600 > Z1010 > K608i
    Siemens ME45 > S55 > SL55
    Motorola 6200 > C333 > C350 > V547 > E1000 > A1000
    Nokia 7110 > 6230 > 6630 > 6230i> E60 > N80
    Panasonic G500 > GD90 > VS3
    Philips Fisio 820 > 825
    Palm Treo 650 > Treo 750V
    Samsung ZV40 > SGH-Z560
    NEC 338 > 616

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