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  1. #401  
    Getting consistent mid 800s with good reception (only have 1 bar in my work bldg and net ~5-600). The 800k speeds are consistent when tethered to laptop too.

    Used the mobilitytoday writeup/files...Previous to hack was getting ~400
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    #402  
    Quote Originally Posted by taylorh View Post
    I recommend just use the .CAB installer here:
    http://www.gadgetech.info/treo/hacks/hsdpa/
    It takes all of the work out of it, just does it for you.

    Doesn't get ANY easier than that!!!!
  3. #403  
    The patch did work on very 1st time, under none softwares installed and just a fresh wm5, and the speed can up to 7xxkit/s, but after i install several softwares..the speed can be down to 7xkit/s-1xxkb/s, any reason?

    As the previous post mention, after install the patch, the 1st reset should use 'softwares' to reset it, then push the hole under minsd slot for 2nd reset? Or both reset can be perform via pushing the reset hole to get the hsdpa enable?

    Thanks for helping.
  4. #404  
    Quote Originally Posted by taylorh View Post
    Speed is really about the same. You'll hear arguments either way about one being a little faster than the other, but in terms of the initial release of EVDO and HSDPA which is what the current phones use, they're comparable.
    As they upgrade EV-DO and HSDPA going forward it'll be an interesting race, but that'll require a new phone to take advantage of it.

    So one might ask why AT&T(Cingular) and not verizon or sprint if that's the case?
    I happen to think AT&T sounds better, and it's a lot cheaper for me.
    I'm paying about $110 for two lines with unlimited internet and 200 text messages each. I can't get away with that on Verizon.
    HSDPA has one big advantage in my opinion: The DO in EVDO means Data Only. So you can talk or use the internet connection, not both at the same time. HSDPA has 2 pipes, one for data and one for voice. So, if you are tethering your phone as a modem, for example, then you could contine to surf and make and receive calls at the same time. Or while talking to someone on your bluetooth headset, you could google something at the same time. CDMA phones cannot do that, meaning Verizon or Sprint.
  5. #405  
    Quote Originally Posted by cingulartreo View Post
    HSDPA has one big advantage in my opinion: The DO in EVDO means Data Only. So you can talk or use the internet connection, not both at the same time. HSDPA has 2 pipes, one for data and one for voice. So, if you are tethering your phone as a modem, for example, then you could contine to surf and make and receive calls at the same time. Or while talking to someone on your bluetooth headset, you could google something at the same time. CDMA phones cannot do that, meaning Verizon or Sprint.
    that's right, good points. I'm not sure if the next EVDO version does data and voice in the same time
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    I believe EVDV will do Data+Voice. But I don't know when they'll upgrade to that.
  7. #407  
    Quote Originally Posted by taylorh View Post
    I believe EVDV will do Data+Voice. But I don't know when they'll upgrade to that.
    Never....when Sprint decided to go EVDO all hope for EVDV was pretty much lost.

    EDIT: this is because the next step is either WiMAX or EVDO rev B or C (and UWB) for the CDMA carriers, and WCDMA for the GSM side.
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  8. #408  
    I got 983 and 890 back to back readings right after i installed the HSDPA hack on my 750 with AT&T
    live in fort lauderdale, the difference is HUGE in downloads and web speeds, almost instantaneous its great.
    thanks
  9. #409  
    I'm a pretty tech-savvy person, but a new treo user. I downloaded and installed the .cab file no problem. Saw the SetHDSPA (assuming it's a .exe, cant find how to show file extensions) in \Windows\ and the shortcut (only 25 bytes) in \Windows\Startup. Pressed the reset button many times, allowing a full reboot and several minutes in between. Still no luck, i'm only seeing the 'G' at top of my status bar, instead of the 'U', as others have reported. Even tried uninstalling/reinstalling.

    One thing i was wondering, does it matter if i'm connecting to the internet using 'MEdiaNet' vs 'MyISP'? i cant connect to internet using MEdiaNet unless i turn off the cingular web proxy, but the HSDPA hack doesnt seem to work with either.

    I'm in a large city in Alabama, and cingular's coverage map shows that i should have 'best' coverage.

    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks
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    #410  
    Quote Originally Posted by pervis View Post
    Still no luck, i'm only seeing the 'G' at top of my status bar, instead of the 'U', as others have reported. Even tried uninstalling/reinstalling.
    Did you see a 'U' before the hack was installed? If not, your area may not even have UMTS to begin with. If you did, then make sure that your phone's band is not fixed at "GSM" and set it to "Auto" (Settings | Personal | Phone | Services | Band Selection | Select Network Type).

    The hack is not noticeable until you do speed test. So it won't change the status bar icon.
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  11. #411  
    I should point out I've tried this hack, the speeds burst up to 900kbps, however, it starts to average out to around 150kbps which is slower than UMTS, likely why Palm disabled it initially. I've tried this several times, with 4 bars of UMTS.
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    #412  
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlyn_3D View Post
    I should point out I've tried this hack, the speeds burst up to 900kbps, however, it starts to average out to around 150kbps which is slower than UMTS, likely why Palm disabled it initially. I've tried this several times, with 4 bars of UMTS.
    Why do you think this? I have been using the hack for a few months now and have never run into that issue. I run speed tests all the time and have never gone anywhere even close to being that low. I just ran one and got 817kbps.
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  13. #413  
    Quote Originally Posted by maevro View Post
    Why do you think this? I have been using the hack for a few months now and have never run into that issue. I run speed tests all the time and have never gone anywhere even close to being that low. I just ran one and got 817kbps.
    Well I am in downtown and mid-town Manhattan, using PIE (which uses Cingular Proxy) I can range from 250-850kbs. Using Opera (which doesn't use the proxy), I average about 350.
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    #414  
    Quote Originally Posted by JGold View Post
    Well I am in downtown and mid-town Manhattan, using PIE (which uses Cingular Proxy) I can range from 250-850kbs. Using Opera (which doesn't use the proxy), I average about 350.
    I removed the proxy but you said you range, not average. Of course there are times where I can hit low speeds, but I certainly don't average around 150kbs like he said. I live in Chelsea and work by Penn Station and usually gets speeds over 500kps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maevro View Post
    I removed the proxy but you said you range, not average. Of course there are times where I can hit low speeds, but I certainly don't average around 150kbs like he said. I live in Chelsea and work by Penn Station and usually gets speeds over 500kps.
    That's the thing, I removed the proxy as well and noticed it's actually faster with the proxy enabled. My problem is that I run a speed test, the 1MB one, and it starts really really fast, then slows down to a crawl, then speeds up again. Basically it bursts. The results come back as 150 to 300. When I uninstall the hack and just go raw UMTS without the proxy, it is very consistent at around 300kbps.


    This is with 4 bars in UMTS coverage. I haven't tried opera, but I don't want to pay for opera either.
  16. #416  
    Quote Originally Posted by webedc View Post
    Did you see a 'U' before the hack was installed? If not, your area may not even have UMTS to begin with. If you did, then make sure that your phone's band is not fixed at "GSM" and set it to "Auto" (Settings | Personal | Phone | Services | Band Selection | Select Network Type).

    The hack is not noticeable until you do speed test. So it won't change the status bar icon.
    Thanks webedc. After looking at Cingular's coverage map, i'm not in a UMTS area. Pardon the noob question!
  17. #417  
    I ran this patch and it didn't make any noticable difference in speed on the device.

    I'll look into it in more detail later. (too busy this week)
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    #418  
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlyn_3D View Post
    That's the thing, I removed the proxy as well and noticed it's actually faster with the proxy enabled. My problem is that I run a speed test, the 1MB one, and it starts really really fast, then slows down to a crawl, then speeds up again. Basically it bursts. The results come back as 150 to 300. When I uninstall the hack and just go raw UMTS without the proxy, it is very consistent at around 300kbps.


    This is with 4 bars in UMTS coverage. I haven't tried opera, but I don't want to pay for opera either.
    From HoFo:

    The proxy manipulates the test. Basically acts as in intermediary between your device and the server.

    The speed test is downloaded by the proxy at a fast speed, then sends a response back to the server that the test is complete while you're still downloading it to your phone, or something similar to that.

    The proxy does compress images so what you download is far smaller than what the server is sending, that's why pages load faster. But this speed test is just text in an HTML body, so I'm not sure if it's doing any compression on this or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlyn_3D View Post
    That's the thing, I removed the proxy as well and noticed it's actually faster with the proxy enabled.
    A Hofo member explained why that is:

    The proxy manipulates the test. Basically acts as in intermediary between your device and the server.
    The speed test is downloaded by the proxy at a fast speed, then sends a response back to the server that the test is complete while you're still downloading it to your phone, or something similar to that.
    The proxy does compress images so what you download is far smaller than what the server is sending, that's why pages load faster. But this speed test is just text in an HTML body, so I'm not sure if it's doing any compression on this or not. If it were an image it would be easy to see what's going on, but I'm not sure in this case.

    But true is the case with ANY proxy based solution that it will trick the speed test in to thinking your phone was doing the download directly when in fact the Proxy was doing the download, then relaying it to the phone at a slower speed.

    Additionally, the proxy can take out factors such as latency. Your phone sends back response packets to the server and there's a turn around time between an action and a response due to latency. The proxy can optimize this between it and the server by short circuiting the phone from the equation, thus ACTUALLY speeding up the download process a little by removing latency.

    That's what a proxies are for.

    Ironically I see much slower responses in getting pages to start loading through the proxy, but over all the pages download faster once they start. That's just the delay time in the overloaded AT&T proxy dealing with the request.

    So to answer your question, the proxy can make 'trick' the speed test in to thinking you have a 1Mbps connection when in fact you may have 180kbps or something like that.
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  20. #420  
    Quote Originally Posted by JGold View Post
    A Hofo member explained why that is:
    LOL, that's me (I'm RF9.)

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