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       #21  
    wonder why signalling (3G) would be stronger on another device like that...if your in the same area when testing.
    BTW....a cingular data specialist suggest I replace my sim card since it doesn't have the 'fireball' and 3G in the upper rt hand corner....so I'm doing that tonight.
    but with 700-900 kbpm readings I don't know what difference it could make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockky View Post
    wonder why signalling (3G) would be stronger on another device like that...if your in the same area when testing.
    BTW....a cingular data specialist suggest I replace my sim card since it doesn't have the 'fireball' and 3G in the upper rt hand corner....so I'm doing that tonight.
    but with 700-900 kbpm readings I don't know what difference it could make.
    Whats the SIM card with a fireball in the corner? Is that a specific card for SIM card for 3G?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmcguire View Post
    Whats the SIM card with a fireball in the corner? Is that a specific card for SIM card for 3G?
    Yep.
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    Hmm, my SIM card which I only got a couple of weeks ago has a 3G stamped on the metal contacts side, but I don't see a fireball anywhere. Is there a different SIM? I thought this was the newest type (it has in orange letters 64K smartchip).

    Quote Originally Posted by rockky View Post
    wonder why signalling (3G) would be stronger on another device like that...if your in the same area when testing.
    BTW....a cingular data specialist suggest I replace my sim card since it doesn't have the 'fireball' and 3G in the upper rt hand corner....so I'm doing that tonight.
    but with 700-900 kbpm readings I don't know what difference it could make.
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    OT, but is the Tytn slider friction based like the KJam and PPC6700 / T-MO MDA type devices or magnetic based like the Samsung slider smartphones?
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    The TyTN I tried a couple of months ago was friction based, I don't know about the other devices.

    Quote Originally Posted by IsLNdbOi View Post
    OT, but is the Tytn slider friction based like the KJam and PPC6700 / T-MO MDA type devices or magnetic based like the Samsung slider smartphones?
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       #27  
    I just picked up the card...... it DOES have a big fireball and 3G in upper rt of front of card.
    .....unlike my other card.
    I only had my treo750 with me so have to wait to put it in the tytn.
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    Did they say what the fireball SIM card does differently then the other ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockky View Post
    Btw..Htc will have a Tytn spec device out next year with the Dash form factor...3G, thin, with large screen and scroll wheel..... keep the silly telescopic stylus for all I care!
    rockky, this is the first I've heard of this. Can you cite a source and maybe give us a link to any further information/details?

    If true, this sounds like what the Treo 750v should have been (i.e. WiFi)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmcguire View Post
    Did they say what the fireball SIM card does differently then the other ones?
    Cingular says you must use the 3G SIM to access 3G. I never tried to see if that was true.
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    This is true, but the old 3G sim (without the fireball) that I have does that also. It would be good to know if getting the newer one is recommended or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    Cingular says you must use the 3G SIM to access 3G. I never tried to see if that was true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcaslis View Post
    Hmm, my SIM card which I only got a couple of weeks ago has a 3G stamped on the metal contacts side, but I don't see a fireball anywhere. Is there a different SIM? I thought this was the newest type (it has in orange letters 64K smartchip).
    Quote Originally Posted by brmcguire View Post
    Whats the SIM card with a fireball in the corner? Is that a specific card for SIM card for 3G?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    Cingular says you must use the 3G SIM to access 3G. I never tried to see if that was true.
    I think we still haven't confirmed why some 3G sims have a Fireball and some don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcaslis View Post
    This is true, but the old 3G sim (without the fireball) that I have does that also. It would be good to know if getting the newer one is recommended or not.

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    I just called Cingular and asked them about this type of SIM card (fireball). They didn't know of a SIM card that did anything different then the one that I currently have. They said it might of been a personalized SIM card. Whatever that means.
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    I don't feel like digging up the HoFo thread but basically the newer 3Ged SIMs have the fireball on them however they are made by the same company (GemPlus). Depending on the SIM, it might not support HSDPA (but does support UMTS) and that would be the reason for the different SIMs.

    Reference the Cingular forum at HoFo for the more technical details.
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    Hard to understand why that would be. The 750v doesn't have a HSDPA yet, but I tried a TyTN about two months. I had a 3G sim that looked exactly like the one I have (small 3G on underside, no fireball) and the TyTN was definitely getting HSDPA. I was getting about 900kbit/sec download compared to my Verizon 700p on EVDO getting around 700kbit/sec. The 750v gets around 350kbit/sec but that makes sense for UMTS only.
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    64K sim = 3G sim according to Cingular.
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       #38  
    I went and switched cards because a cing rep suggested getting one with the fireball ...which I did.
    performance seems more uniformly better on the tytn (less variance in speeds)..but honestly it doesn't seem too significant.
    BUT..... seriously....the first time I popped it in the 750 I got a 856kbps but I'm sure that's just margin of error on the 2wire reading... its been 350ish in general.
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