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  1.    #1  
    I came across this and wanted to know if any Treocentral members have done this, and if it's safe? Thanks.
    http://www.modaco.com/Performance-pr...3-t244497.html
    Jimmie Geddes
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    It looks like those settings only applies to Tmobile and Orange networks.
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    This hack does work using the following DNS numbers for 700WX (Sprint)...

    DNS: 4.2.2.1
    Alt DNA: 4.2.2.2

    I saw a huge difference when I made this change about 2 - 3 weeks ago.

    When I first made the change I would set it back to the default every couple of days to see if it might have been just a fluke but the difference is still better with the settings above.

    I'm in Phoenix, AZ, so I'm not sure how this will work in other parts of the country, if it even matters.
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    I guess the issue here is whether those DNS servers are free/open/public domain, and whether their operators will be happy to have a bunch of treo user leeching off them.

    Surely the better long-term solution is to petition sprint/verizon to upgrade their DNS servers, rather than simply relieving the load so they don't have to do anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rackman View Post
    This hack does work using the following DNS numbers for 700WX (Sprint)...

    DNS: 4.2.2.1
    Alt DNA: 4.2.2.2
    These name servers belong to Level3 Communications.

    Search results for: 4.2.2.0


    OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc.
    OrgID: LVLT
    Address: 1025 Eldorado Blvd.
    City: Broomfield
    StateProv: CO
    PostalCode: 80021
    Country: US

    NetRange: 4.0.0.0 - 4.255.255.255
    CIDR: 4.0.0.0/8
    NetName: LVLT-ORG-4-8
    NetHandle: NET-4-0-0-0-1
    Parent:
    NetType: Direct Allocation
    NameServer: NS1.LEVEL3.NET
    NameServer: NS2.LEVEL3.NET
    Comment:
    RegDate:
    Updated: 2004-06-04

    OrgAbuseHandle: APL8-ARIN
    OrgAbuseName: Abuse POC LVLT
    OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-453-8353
    OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@level3.com

    OrgTechHandle: ARINC4-ARIN
    OrgTechName: ARIN Contact
    OrgTechPhone: +1-800-436-8489
    OrgTechEmail: arin-contact@genuity.com

    OrgTechHandle: TPL1-ARIN
    OrgTechName: Tech POC LVLT
    OrgTechPhone: +1-877-453-8353
    OrgTechEmail: ipaddressing@level3.com
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    And what does anyone know about Level 3? Remember that all the data you send and receive can also be read and received by anyone with access to those servers. Account numbers, passwords, personal info, your taste in p-o-r-n (;-)} and whatever else you send.

    Do you trust Level3 and it's employees?
    Bob Meyer
    I'm out of my mind. But feel free to leave a message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    And what does anyone know about Level 3? Remember that all the data you send and receive can also be read and received by anyone with access to those servers. Account numbers, passwords, personal info, your taste in p-o-r-n (;-)} and whatever else you send.

    Do you trust Level3 and it's employees?
    Trust? Definitely not.

    Care? Definitely not.



    I just don't do anything that I would care about if people saw. But surely everyone has different needs/thresholds on privacy. Not sure if I trust Sprint either...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    Remember that all the data you send and receive can also be read and received by anyone with access to those servers.
    That is NOT true.

    DNS servers aren't proxies! They are like a "phonebook", all they do is match the IP address with the domain name!

    Using that DNS makes the internet much faster because their servers are much quicker at finding the IP address for a given domain name.

    Oh also, level 3 is SO high profile that if they were to shut down right now access to the internet would be so limited it could cause serious problems to business and people who rely on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdoc View Post
    That is NOT true.

    DNS servers aren't proxies! They are like a "phonebook", all they do is match the IP address with the domain name!

    Using that DNS makes the internet much faster because their servers are much quicker at finding the IP address for a given domain name.
    Indeed, just to confirm I did the above using the servers mentioned by Rackman.

    Verdict:

    When measuring my speed using Verizion (DSLreports hangs on me) I got 571kb on either server (default and Level 3).

    But, I would say overall latency is down significantly, that is my websites ARE found much faster, resulting in quicker net surfing.

    That's my impression so far.

    I'm going to keep it and see how my experience is the rest of the day.

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    Level3 isn't just some random company. They run some of the root dns servers, which are part of the infra-structure of the internet. DNS is like a phone tree. If your local dns server can't match your address with an ip number they refer to a dns server higher up the list, until it exhausts the list, and then returns a dns can not be found error.

    Surur
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    what did you guys put in for username, password, and doman?
    Jimmie Geddes
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmieGeddes View Post
    what did you guys put in for username, password, and doman?
    DO NOT TOUCH that part, just hit the Advanced tab, then go to the 3rd tab called Servers.

    I'm really starting to vouch for this hack as my browsing is certainly faster and more enjoyable. TC is lightning fast now.

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  13.    #13  
    thanks Malatesta, I won't touch 'em
    Jimmie Geddes
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    To put it simply: this shouldn't show up on speed tests. This will show up in the browser's ability to locate the server (website) requested more quickly because it will be shown where it is more quickly.
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    Apparently it really makes a difference when a lot of DNS queries would take place, e.g. updating a list of RSS feeds. With a responsive DNS server it can be many times faster than with a laggy one.

    Surur
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    I currently have does level3 dns for like 2 weeks now. And I loving them. You noticed the difference in web surfing. Internet speed test, they look all the same to me. 500 - 700 Kbps
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    Does this work for Verizon?
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    I just made the change on a 700w (Verizon) and the impact was amazing on the time between "locating" and "opening", even in the 1x area I'm in now.

    Skip
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    Let's see if we can get this to be a little more scientific....

    Let's use this url so we can accurately measure speeds everywhere:
    http://coloradospring-speedtest.spri.../speedtest.cgi
    I chose this location because it is a high speed location, yet, it is out of the very high end locations on the east/west coasts.

    So, here's the start of the list:

    My location: Utah
    My device: Treo 700wx

    First Run Results:
    With DNS changes
    Browser used: PIE
    Speed: 389Kbps / 49Kbps/s

    Second Run Results:
    With DNS changes
    Browser used: PIE
    Speed: 486Kbps / 61Kbps/s

    Third Run Results:
    With DNS changes
    Browser used: PIE
    Speed: 324Kbps / 41Kbps/s

    ---------------------------

    First Run Results:
    With DNS changes
    Browser used: NetFront
    Speed: 284Kbps / 36Kbps/s

    ---------------------------

    First Run Results:
    With DNS changes
    Browser used: Opera
    Speed: 200Kbps / 25Kbps/s

    ---

    First Run Results:
    Without DNS changes
    Browser used: Opera
    Speed: 205Kbps / 38Kbps/s

    It kind of surprises me that PIE was much faster than NetFront and Opera.

    What kind of speeds is everyone else getting?
    Last edited by Stone``; 10/18/2006 at 05:14 PM.
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    Has anyone done this with Palm Treo 700p & Sprint?
    If so, please post the steps..

    I was thinking of trying this out myself..
    Im using Treo 700p on Sprint.

    Anythoughts?
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    Tre 700p UPdated..
    Treo650- Sprint custom rom
    Tungsten T3 creative design.
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    AOL screen name; WilsonIsON
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