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  1. #101  
    not sure about that plasmo...i dont use push....BUT this does work so far.....ill know for sure during the day tomorrow as i will fully charge over night and see,,,,,right now i have my emails set to poll every half hr and it IS working...before no matter what i had it set as it would poll every 30-60 seconds....and it was active sync causing it.....tonight the emails polled flawlessly but i only had 44% battery when i left for work and after a few text messages and my PhoneAlarm going off every 3 minutes per missed notification im down to 22% in 6 hrs....not too bad but like i said ...the full test will be the next couple days
  2. #102  
    OK - I need to get back to an earlier point of this thread. I use a simple POP3 account. No wireless sync, no exchange server, no push. I simply go on and download pop3 mail. With the previous ROM version, I had it set to do it every 30 minutes. Worked fine. I upgraded to the new ROM. Everything else works well, but, it is now constantly going on and getting my e-mail - every minute or so - despite the delivery preferences setting of 30 minutes or whatever I change it to. I've done the Axim fix, I've deleted and reloaded my POP3 account - all to no end. It still checks my mail every minute unless I set the timer box to 0 and uncheck the box so it does NO automatic checking. Is there any fix for this - to get it back on a timed schedule that I can control? This is what's running the battery down - the constant checking.
  3. #103  
    Quote Originally Posted by russmd
    OK - I need to get back to an earlier point of this thread. I use a simple POP3 account. No wireless sync, no exchange server, no push. I simply go on and download pop3 mail. With the previous ROM version, I had it set to do it every 30 minutes. Worked fine. I upgraded to the new ROM. Everything else works well, but, it is now constantly going on and getting my e-mail - every minute or so - despite the delivery preferences setting of 30 minutes or whatever I change it to. I've done the Axim fix, I've deleted and reloaded my POP3 account - all to no end. It still checks my mail every minute unless I set the timer box to 0 and uncheck the box so it does NO automatic checking. Is there any fix for this - to get it back on a timed schedule that I can control? This is what's running the battery down - the constant checking.
    the active sync fix i posted is the only fix my friend....it has worked for me so im not sure why it doesnt work for you......my settings are fine now after doing the fix.....and my battery lasted ALL day with using calls, tons of texts and emails and its now 130 AM and i still have 50% of my battery left.....before i did the fix again i could barley make it to 10pm without it draining almost fully....weird
  4. #104  
    I think you got lucky. The ActiveSync fix you're referring too is what we called the Axim Fix, right? Setting up a fake server, setting the schedule to check manually, then deleting the server. I did all that, did a soft reset, and my treo is still checking pop3 every minute or so despite it being set for 30 minutes. What a pain in the a.....
  5. #105  
    Not sure what did it for me, but after changing my imap delivery preferences and email settings to leave it to manual fetch and doing the Axim Fix my battery life is really good. I played mp3's for hours yesterday and it only used up 10% of my battery life. By the end of the day I still had 72%.

    BTW, I found there are two places where you can set the email pull rate and they seem to be different settings since you can set one and it doesn't change the other.
    1) Delivery Preferences
    2) Tools->Options, select email account and go through E-mail Setup and on page 4 click on Options.

    For those still having battery issues I'd check and reset both of those places.
  6. #106  

    In my previous post I thought I had this thing licked. For one 24 hour period the battery life was acceptable, but nowhere near as good as it had been pre-upgrade. Then all went to h*** again. After 8 hours I am usually down to about half charge.

    I'm using Exchange Push as my only e-mail client, and hardly ever make phone calls or browse the web. I've got my server and firewall people working on this suing the Microsoft information that's been published but no progress so far.


    Walt
  7. #107  
    Quote Originally Posted by hannip
    For those still having battery issues I'd check and reset both of those places.
    Yep. I was a serious complainer before making the change that stopped those POP3 fetches. My battery life is better now than it was before the update. I recharge nightly but I expect that since I have constant "push" going on.
  8. #108  
    Has anybody tried a hard reset since the upgrade just curious if it will help I know in the past soft resets never helped me when I had internet problems, did a hard reset a week upon getting my phone and my internet speeds were dramatically improved. perhaps a hard reset might kick the phone in the **** and actually help since this update.. Anybody try this yet?????
  9. #109  
    OK guys, try this...
    As I said earlier, I just use a pop3 fetch on a time schedule - no wireless sync or push - and it was trying to fetch every minute or so despite my time settings in delivery preferences and e-mail account settings. I also learned that in order to stop the automatic fetching, one must set the time to "0" before unchecking the box. I thought it was interesting that it must be set to zero before unchecking the box as, it would seem, that once that box is unchecked, the zero shouldn't matter - but it does.
    Anyway, I then tried setting the time interval to 30 minutes, then UNCHECKED the box. Lo and behold, mine checks every 30 minutes now with minimal battery drain! Doesn't make sense, but it's worked for me. With the box checked and any number in there, it polls every minute. With it unchecked, it polls at the time interval in the greyed out box. Crazy, but it's working for me.
  10. #110  
    A little more info...
    Yesterday at 5:00 when I left work the Treo had a full charge. This morning at 6:30 it was totally dead. It sat on the counter all night and was not used for anything.

    Just to review....
    I have NO pop3 accounts and one Exchange account set up. The Exchange account is set up for "As messages arrive" from 6 AM to 7 PM, and "Manually" at night.

    I was able to capture the log file from 4 AM to 6:45. It showed what looks like synch events every three minutes from 4 to 4:43 when presumably the battery went dead. That doesn't sound like "Manual" to me.

    Does anyone have information on the CtrlLog file and how to interpret it?

    Walt
    Last edited by walts; 05/04/2006 at 08:46 AM. Reason: misspelling
  11. #111  
    It appears to me that the MSN running in the background is the problem. I had disabled hotmail from automatically checking email. It was still checking, almost constantly. I found some settings that I believe was causing it to check msn and hotmail continuously. I went to Start-Programs-Pocket MSN. Then I selected Options-General. There are several tabs. Select each tab. You'll see options under several of the tabs saying "Download new email automatically", or "Update presence information for all contacts automatically", etc. Uncheck each of these boxes. It appears to have corrected the issue with the Treo checking MSN constantly (I'm knocking on wood as I type this). I hope this helps.

    One additional thing I've noticed is that when I receive a new message, the activesync seems to go through 3 cycles to retrieve the email on the Treo. If you watch Activesync while it is downloading (assuming yours does this too), you'll see that it says "downloading message 1/1", and then it will do the same thing two more times - even when there is only one message to download.
    Last edited by murphymt; 05/05/2006 at 10:58 AM.
  12. #112  
    Having Bluetooth enabled and connected to my bluetooth
    headhone drains mine down in no time flat. I disconnected
    the charge at 9am and by 4pm was down to 34%. This was
    with only 4 calls made and nothing else going on.
  13. #113  
    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo
    Having Bluetooth enabled and connected to my bluetooth
    headhone drains mine down in no time flat. I disconnected
    the charge at 9am and by 4pm was down to 34%. This was
    with only 4 calls made and nothing else going on.
    I was wondering what is the best way to conserve the battery when using the bt headsets?
  14. #114  
    Well, yesterday I was contacted by a Palm support specialist who reviewed the week's worth of CtrlLog files I sent, and came to the conclustion that I neede a new Treo. As a last try, he asked me to do a hard reset and set up my Exchange server to sync "As items arrive", 24/7. (BTW, this updater is the first time in over a half-dozen Windows CE upgrades I have applied, that has NOT required a hard reset as part of the upgrade process.)
    After doing the hard reset, re-charging the battery, and installing most of my software, I left the Treo unplugged overnight. In 15 hours it went from full charge to 78%. During that time it did in fact connect to the server as each e-mail arrived. All of my e-mails (23 of them) were waiting for me in the morning. The log entries correspond to the times of arrival of e-mail, rather than the every-5-minute connections I had been experiencing since installing the update.
    I haven't heard back from the Palm guy yet about what he thinks may have been the root cause of the problem, but if you're still having battery life problems and don't mind reinstalling your software, doing a hard reset might just fix the problem.

    Walt
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    #115  
    Quote Originally Posted by walts
    Well, yesterday I was contacted by a Palm support specialist who reviewed the week's worth of CtrlLog files I sent, and came to the conclustion that I neede a new Treo. As a last try, he asked me to do a hard reset and set up my Exchange server to sync "As items arrive", 24/7.
    After doing the hard reset, re-charging the battery, and installing most of my software, I left the Treo unplugged overnight. In 15 hours it went from full charge to 78%. During that time it did in fact connect to the server as each e-mail arrived. All of my e-mails (23 of them) were waiting for me in the morning.

    Walt
    Walt-
    which exchange server do you use? 3rd party, or at work? Just curious-
    TRGpro --> Handera 330 --> SideKick I --> HP iPAQ H4355 (stolen) --> Navman PiN --> Treo 700w
  16. #116  
    Quote Originally Posted by plasmo
    Walt-
    which exchange server do you use? 3rd party, or at work? Just curious-
    Exchange 2003, SP2 - at work.

    Walt
  17. #117  
    You mention that your corp is using Juniper. My company just deployed juniper. Is there a tweak you know about that might make life a little less "draining" on my treo?
  18. #118  
    Let me know if anybody else had this luck, as with many of the everyday bugs my most recent one (after the battery had completly drained) caused me to do some resets which didn't unfreeze my phone I then removed the battery and placed it back in and now and i'm not kidding you on this I can go from 4 in the morning till midnight and still have 86% battery left and yes I use my phone as well as Push E-mail I'm so happy I'm afraid to reboot it again in a couple of days so far I have had 3 days of almost perfect operation. has anybody else ran into this ?? These kind of bugs I like :-)
  19. #119  
    I was just reading through this thread to see if there were any development and an old memory popped into my head.

    I've done quite a few BIOS upgrades on laptops over the years and a few of them asked that you make sure the battery is fully charged before the BIOS update is done. Something to do with changing the algorithms they use to calculate battery life and that it needs to start on a freshly charged battery.

    I just wonder if there's a problem updating the 700w while the battery is not at full charge. Maybe the meter is just off and you actually have the same amount of power left in the battery.

    Buster
  20. #120  
    I guess for this theory to be tested some brave soul with battery life problems would have to...

    1. fully charge the 700w overnight. Not just until it reports 100%, but keep it on the charger overnight just in case 100% is really 60% or something.

    2. Manually change that ver file so the 700w reports the older ROM version

    3. Run the ROM update. The same ROM update that was first used, not a freshly downloaded one (you never know if palm snuck a change in).

    My battery life is fine, so I couldn't test this.

    Big caveat though. The changing of the ver file is a fix to reload the ROM update if you interupted the ROM update. Will it work correctly if you truly have the full ROM version installed and install over the top of it?
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