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  1.    #1  
    OK people, you have to help me out here. I gotta be doing something wrong.

    I used my 650, along with Pocket Tunes, as my sole music/media player. I had a 2Gb card, loaded with 1000 songs, and the occasional movie. Used TCPMP as my music player, and PTunes, as stated above, for the tunes. Loved all that. Worked great. I also used the Headset Control to stop/start/pause, advance, etc, the songs via the button on my Seidio stereo combo headset.

    So I'm testing a 700w, seeking the same multi-media functionality, and finding WMP sorely lacking. I want to know if I'm missing something, in the following areas:

    When I am listening to music in WMP, and turn off the screen via the red power button, that seems to stop WMP. WTF? That surely isn't the way it works.

    Does anyone know of any app like Headset Control/magic button, for WMP? I really need that. To have to take the device out of my pocket just to pause music is a huge pain, now that I'm dependent on the headset button.

    With PTunes, if I left the app, and came back to it later, the music would start again right where I left off (that same process would even survive a soft reset from time to time, which always amazed me). If I leave WMP and come back, it's not obvious to me that it will start again right where I was. I have to do a 'library search', load up the music, and start again. That is a killer to me.

    Surely WMP isn't this bad. Anyone have any clues?
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    Bump.

    I'm about to get a 6700, so I'd like to know this too. I just assumed there would be a 3rd party app that would give you all this functionality.
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  3. #3  
    Quote Originally Posted by nrosser
    So I'm testing a 700w, seeking the same multi-media functionality, and finding WMP sorely lacking.
    I'll bet the DRM part works well
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    Try TCMCP for pocket pc.

    The treo red button is the pwoer button, not screen. The core pocket media player has a screen off function. Also there's gsplayer which is cool.

    TCPMP should fix the screen off, and continue from track and position problem, but I don't know about the head set buttons. I know gsplayer has a button mapper option "where you select a funtion, then press any button you want to represent it" that should work for you headset problem.

    Matter of fact I thinks tcmcp also has a button mapper function.

    Try the, both out, plus they both are free ware.
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    I rarely use WMP...TCMCP works best for me.
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  6.    #6  
    I know the red power button thing - I've used Treos for as long as they've been out. The point is that with PTunes and the 650, I was used to working a certain way with my music. I'm getting used to WMP, and it's not bad. I can handle leaving the screen on until it goes blank on its own (don't love it but I can deal with it). What I don't dig in WMP is when I return to the app, how it doesn't remember where I was before.
    Again, these are not life-changing issues, but I was hoping for better.
    I use TCPMP for my movies, and I don't like loading up music into it, and then going back to my movie, and having the movie start at the very beginning. Like WMP, it doesn't seem able to recall where I was when I left the app.
    Maybe this not remembering thing is a function of WM5, and just how it is. I know that the Palm OS stops & closes the app in its last state - I would guess that's not the case with WM5.
    The quest continues....
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    What are you talking about. Tcpmp has the ability to resume from where you left, and GSplayer has the same ability.

    Second when you lanch ptune, it remaps you power button to a screen off button, you could do the same with Tcpmp, then when you press the power button it will turn the screen off and not the device. Tcpmp and gsplayer can continue to map buttons even while playing in the back ground.

    No this is not a windows mobile problem it a application problem. A problem that already sovle, but you honestly haven't done any work at all. GSplayer, you clearly have the option to load previos playlist, and Resume.

    Do a little work, download gsplayer, or just goto option "at the bottom of the screen" in tcpmp.

    Or you could buy an IPOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrosser
    What I don't dig in WMP is when I return to the app, how it doesn't remember where I was before.
    Again, these are not life-changing issues, but I was hoping for better.
    I use TCPMP for my movies, and I don't like loading up music into it, and then going back to my movie, and having the movie start at the very beginning.
    If you load file #1 into TCPMP and then load another totally different file into TCPMP (#2), I wouldn't expect TCPMP to remember where you were at on file #1.

    My experience with TCPMP is that if you leave the same file and go do something else (i.e. take a phone call) and then come back to the same file, it starts right up where you were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarenceCM3
    What are you talking about. Tcpmp has the ability to resume from where you left, and GSplayer has the same ability.

    Second when you lanch ptune, it remaps you power button to a screen off button, you could do the same with Tcpmp, then when you press the power button it will turn the screen off and not the device. Tcpmp and gsplayer can continue to map buttons even while playing in the back ground.

    No this is not a windows mobile problem it a application problem. A problem that already sovle, but you honestly haven't done any work at all. GSplayer, you clearly have the option to load previos playlist, and Resume.

    Do a little work, download gsplayer, or just goto option "at the bottom of the screen" in tcpmp.

    Or you could buy an IPOD
    My original question was about WMP. I'm using TCPMP for movies, and was just hoping WMP could approach pTunes in terms of functionality.

    But thanks for the helpful words.
  10. #10  
    You might try pocket music mp3 for ppc. Looks fairly feature rich and isn't bad for $19.95.
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    Also Pocket Player, if you need access to PlaysForSure (DRM) files.
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    Update - after learning more about WMP in the past couple of weeks, I'm <mostly> happy with it, compared to PocketTunes, with one remaining issue -

    With PTunes on my 650, I could start up the music, then turn off the screen with the red power button, and the music would keep playing. The goal being, to save some battery.

    Seems like with WMP (as well as every other music app on the 700w I've tried), they all shut off when I power off the screen. Yes I know - you'll all tell me 'well, dummy, hitting the red power button turns off the device, so of course the music stops' - BUT, on the 650, hitting the red power button to turn off the screen let the music keep going. And dang it - that's what I want on the 700. No it's not life and death but that's what I want.

    Again I ask - am I missing something? I just want to turn off the screen and not wait for the time out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrosser
    Update - after learning more about WMP in the past couple of weeks, I'm <mostly> happy with it, compared to PocketTunes, with one remaining issue -

    With PTunes on my 650, I could start up the music, then turn off the screen with the red power button, and the music would keep playing. The goal being, to save some battery.

    Seems like with WMP (as well as every other music app on the 700w I've tried), they all shut off when I power off the screen. Yes I know - you'll all tell me 'well, dummy, hitting the red power button turns off the device, so of course the music stops' - BUT, on the 650, hitting the red power button to turn off the screen let the music keep going. And dang it - that's what I want on the 700. No it's not life and death but that's what I want.

    Again I ask - am I missing something? I just want to turn off the screen and not wait for the time out.
    I liked that feature on pocket tunes as well. To answer your question, I havent been able to get it to work like that for me either. What is kind of nice for me though is that now I can constantly control the volume (if the app is on the screen) but pressing my 5 way pad up or down. (Can't remember if I could do that with ptunes on my t600?)
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    You have to program a key to turn the screen off.

    From Windows Media player, select Menu

    Then select Options

    Select the far tab on the right "Buttons"

    Scroll down to "Toggle Screen"

    Set it to what ever key you want. I use the spacebar.

    That is all there is to it. Whatever key you selected will togle the screen on and off.

    Hope that helps.
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    That's nice - thanks. I had messed with some of those button settings but hadn't scrolled down to the Toggle Screen one.

    So that gets me somewhat closer - but all that does is turn off the screen - for example, my backlight still stays on for a bit.

    Still don't understand why I just can't hit the red button to turn off the screen/keyboard, just like the 650. Oh well - guess it's because it's NOT a 650. Get over it, is what I say to myself.

    Thanks for the tip.
  17. #17  
    Quote Originally Posted by cwranger View Post
    You have to program a key to turn the screen off.

    From Windows Media player, select Menu

    Then select Options

    Select the far tab on the right "Buttons"

    Scroll down to "Toggle Screen"

    Set it to what ever key you want. I use the spacebar.

    That is all there is to it. Whatever key you selected will togle the screen on and off.

    Hope that helps.
    Is there also a way to get the keyboard backlight to turn off in Windows Media Player? It doesn't turn off when the screen toggles.
  18. #18  
    Bump... Anyone?
  19. #19  
    I've given a lot of help to people on this forum regarding certain things like Sprint BizConn but whenever I need to ask a question or need help with something, either "no one seems to know the answer or doesn't care to answer."

    Very sad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpgeek View Post
    I've given a lot of help to people on this forum regarding certain things like Sprint BizConn but whenever I need to ask a question or need help with something, either "no one seems to know the answer or doesn't care to answer."

    Very sad...
    Yes. See this thread: http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=137887

    Slingbox and Hannip came up with a Mortscript script to disable the keylights on the Treo. Don't know what device you're using, but... give it a shot. It works great (assign it to a hardware key or execute the shortcut before going into the program. Or do what I did for TomTom and make a script to run the keylight script, run and wiat for TomTom, then execute the keylight script again when the program exits).

    Or you also might want to take a look at this thread: http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=125460
    Some people were saying that the keylights stay on even when the screen goes off. Check your setting in the registry for the mentioned key and see if it's set correctly. But I believe the keylight script works on this philosphy...
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