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    Now that we have this high-speed EVDO network & an integrated camera, has anyone tried video conferencing on the Treo 700W? I downloaded Microsoft Portrait, which claims to do this, but I don't believe it will support the Treo's internal camera.

    According to their site, it supports: Veo Traveler for Pocket PC Camera, Eten P300 Pocket Phone Built-in Camera, HP Photosmart Mobile Camera, Hitachi G1000 Pocket PC Phone Built-In Camera, SPECTEC SD camera, Lifeview FlyCAM-SD 1.3M camera, HP Jornada Pocket camera, Pretec CompactCamera, Intermec 6651 built-in camera.

    See:
    http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/

    We'd have to hold a mirror in our hand to use the Treo's built in camera, if Microsoft updates the software to support it. Anyone try this yet? Anyone have one of the above cameras?

    Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulg
    Now that we have this high-speed EVDO network & an integrated camera, has anyone tried video conferencing on the Treo 700W? I downloaded Microsoft Portrait, which claims to do this, but I don't believe it will support the Treo's internal camera.

    According to their site, it supports: Veo Traveler for Pocket PC Camera, Eten P300 Pocket Phone Built-in Camera, HP Photosmart Mobile Camera, Hitachi G1000 Pocket PC Phone Built-In Camera, SPECTEC SD camera, Lifeview FlyCAM-SD 1.3M camera, HP Jornada Pocket camera, Pretec CompactCamera, Intermec 6651 built-in camera.

    See:
    http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/

    We'd have to hold a mirror in our hand to use the Treo's built in camera, if Microsoft updates the software to support it. Anyone try this yet? Anyone have one of the above cameras?

    Paul
    you mean one can actually use this for video conference and chat? but whats the software to make that happen?
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    The software I mentioned is Microsoft Portrait:

    Microsoft Portrait is a research prototype for mobile video communication. It supports .NET Messenger Service, Session Initiation Protocol and Internet Locator Service on PCs, Pocket PCs, Handheld PCs and Smartphone. It runs on local area networks, dialup networks and even wireless networks with bandwidths as low as 9.6 kilobits/second. Microsoft Portrait delivers portrait-like video if users are in low bandwidths and displays full-color video if users are in broadband. In low bandwidths, portrait video possesses clearer shape, smoother motion, shorter latency and much cheaper computational cost than do conventional video technologies. Microsoft Portrait pursues providing presence notification, chat/voice/video functions anytime, anywhere, on any device.

    You can download it from:

    http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/

    Let me know if anyone has success with this!
    Paul
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    Dunno im willing to test if anyone wants to test it out.
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    Update- I downloaded & installed Portrait on my PC and on my Treo 700w. I ran Portrait on my PC & signed in to my .NET messenger account. I checked to make sure it was set to auto-answer & that my webcam was working properly. Then, I ran Portrait on my Treo 700W and signed in to a different .NET messenger account. I added my other .NET account as a buddy. There is an option in File menu in Portrait to see My Buddies. I clicked that & up came my buddy list with my other account showing as Online. I clicked that & hit 'call'. The phone made a ring sound & there was the video from my PC webcam in a window on my pocketPC. Pretty cool!

    For some reason, the video seemed to degrade over time with artifacts appearing that only went away when something passed over them in the video. I didn't try plugging an SD camera into the Treo's SD slot, but I bet it would work. The Spectec SD camera is available online for $44 at:
    http://www.mobileplanet.com/us/produ...1&sbadd=SDC-01

    Anyone else who wants to try video conferencing on the Treo should check this out.

    Paul
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    So does this mean that you could see the other party on your phone and the other party could see you on their phone simultaneously?
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    I have already contacted the developers of Microsoft Portrait who told me that they are working on an update that will utilize the Windows Mobile 5 Common Camera API, so that it would work across the board for all compliant WM5 devices with a camera. The Treo 700w would definitely fall into that category, but you'd probably be better off using ComVu PocketCaster if you want to do live videoblogging, for I'm not about to be holding up a mirror just to use it.

    I've always pressed for front-facing cameras, and the old Samsung SPH-i700 was one of the first to do it, but the idiots at Samsung refused to cooperate with anyone to allow third-party access to their camera, and even their pin-out on their proprietary sync/charge cable. So like most owners, the attitude became, "Screw them." At least with WM5, there's some commonality required, and many are tired of proprietary cables nowadays.

    www.comvu.com

    I also spoke to the developers at Skype since they released 2.0, but they don't have a timetable for supporting video on the Pocket PC.

    I'd leave it to another developer altogether to come up with a solution, but the next PPC Phone to have a front facing camera and high-speed internet would be the HTC Hermes, and that's a GSM phone.
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    Now when I say that I mean if you bought one of these cameras and put it in your sd card slot http://www.mobileplanet.com/us/prod...01&sbadd=SDC-01 and the http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/ was uploaded to your phone you could do full video confrencing?
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    http://www.demo.com/demonstrators/de...all/55006.html

    not sure where i foudn this... too excited right now.... its a way to stream video from your phone to the net... its a pay service somehow.... but right now ive been testing it for free... watching my own streaming video for free.... i think its the announcement services and such that cost the money.... its great though... i cant get it to broadcast consistently..... ive tried it from 40 - 300k speed... neither has maintained so far... but the client looks to be upload 50k only... still testing... woot

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