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  1.    #1  
    I am trying to increase the application database size based on the article from 2011 and this is what happens when I try to reduce the media size.
    root@webos-device:/#
    root@webos-device:/# pkill -SIGUSR1 cryptofs
    umount /media/internal
    resizefat -v /dev/mapper/store-media 12.4G
    lvreduce -L 12.4G /dev/mapper/store-media
    mount /media/internal
    pkill -SIGUSR2 cryptofs
    pkill -SIGUSR1 cryptofs
    umount /media/internal
    resizefat -v /dev/mapper/store-media 12.4G
    lvreduce -L 12.4G /dev/mapper/store-media
    mount /media/internal
    pkill -SIGUSR2 cryptofs
    root@webos-device:/#
    root@webos-device:/# umount /media/internal
    umount: can't umount /media/internal: Device or resource busy
    root@webos-device:/#
    root@webos-device:/# resizefat -v /dev/mapper/store-media 12.4G
    Device size: 29032448 (14864613376 bytes)
    File system size: 25165824
    No repair needed
    check filesystem: dosfsck -a /dev/mapper/store-media
    dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
    /dev/mapper/store-media: 8079 files, 129098/393118 clusters
    Device /dev/mapper/store-media, size 29032448 sectors
    0 percent complete.
    100 percent complete.
    root@webos-device:/#
    root@webos-device:/# lvreduce -L 12.4G /dev/mapper/store-media
    File descriptor 13 (socket:[9632]) leaked on lvreduce invocation. Parent PID 224
    9: /bin/sh
    Rounding up size to full physical extent 12.41 GB
    WARNING: Reducing active and open logical volume to 12.41 GB
    THIS MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA (filesystem etc.)
    Do you really want to reduce media? [y/n]: y
    Do you really want to reduce media? [y/n]: Logical volume media NOT reduced
    Command failed with status code 5.


    I am guessing it is the can't umount /media/internal/ that is causing the problems.

    Does anyone know how to force that to not be busy... I tried this after a hard shut down and the first thing I did was plug it into the usb, opened WebOSQuick Install and ran the df -h from the linux command line, then this.

    i am great with apps, not so much with code, especially linux... so any insight on this would be awesome.

    Thanks

    Yup... had this a couple of weeks ago, restarted everything (and documented the heck out of this for the next time) and got the message full again... not sure what is blowing it up so fast
  2. #2  
    I just updated this: MojoDB Partition Resize - WebOS Internals

    What is the output of

    ps -lf -p $(fuser -c /media/internal 2>/dev/null)
    I suspect BrowserServer is blocking the unmount command.
    Did you know:

    webOS ran on a Treo 800 during initial development.
  3.    #3  
    Sorry it took so long to get back to this...
    I ran the ps -lf -p $(fuser -c /media/internal 2>/dev/null) and got loads anf loads of data, none of it matched the things you had posted and most started with a 1 not a 4 or 5.
    For kicks, I decided to try the stop browserserver to see if that helped, it didnt.

    What worried me is that I went for almost 3 years with this phone and never had a problem...After all this I ran the Doctor, and when I checked it was using like 19 meg after installing apps, I don't use any more email than I used to, in fact, I reduced the storage of all to one day. I have almost no calls or text messages, and now, only about 3 weeks later, I am up to 125 m and getting the error messages again. I don't know what I could possibly get rid of to reduce this down.

    I am really upset. I love this phone and it is just now that it is causing problems and I really don't want to give it up.... but losing my contacts and having to manually rekey them in really sucks, to the point, i haven't done it.
  4.    #4  
    This is the output I get

    C:\Users\Kristin L Oberhaus\Documents\Applications>"C:/Program Files/Palm, Inc/n
    ovacom.exe" -d d200fb7e93aac030ac3863ed48d9f1e40c13ff50 -t open tty://

    root@webos-device:/#
    root@webos-device:/# ps -lf -p $(fuser -c /media/internal 2>/dev/null)
    ps -lf -p $(fuser -c /media/internal 2>/dev/null)
    F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN STIME TTY TIME CMD
    4 S root 1 0 0 80 0 - 567 select Jul06 ? 0:04 /sbin/u

    1 S root 2 0 0 75 -5 - 0 kthrea Jul06 ? 0:00 [kthre]

    1 S root 3 2 0 75 -5 - 0 ksofti Jul06 ? 0:32 [ksoft]

    5 S root 4 2 0 -40 - - 0 watchd Jul06 ? 0:00 [watch]

    1 S root 5 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:36 [event]

    1 S root 6 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [khelp]

    1 S root 107 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:04 [kbloc]

    1 S root 110 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [cqueu]

    1 S root 124 2 0 75 -5 - 0 twl403 Jul06 ? 0:08 [twl40]

    1 D root 133 2 0 75 -5 - 0 omap2_ Jul06 ? 25:04 [omap2]

    1 S root 141 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:36 [ksusp]

    1 S root 146 2 0 75 -5 - 0 hub_th Jul06 ? 0:03 [khubd]

    1 S root 151 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 2:20 [kmmcd]

    1 S root 180 2 0 80 0 - 0 pdflus Jul06 ? 0:00 [pdflu]

    1 S root 181 2 0 80 0 - 0 pdflus Jul06 ? 0:46 [pdflu]

    1 S root 182 2 0 75 -5 - 0 kswapd Jul06 ? 0:00 [kswap]

    1 S root 183 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [aio/0]

    1 S root 184 2 0 75 -5 - 0 cifs_o Jul06 ? 0:00 [cifso]

    1 S root 185 2 0 75 -5 - 0 cifs_d Jul06 ? 0:00 [cifsd]

    1 S root 308 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:10 [modem]

    1 S root 309 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 1:01 [modem]

    1 S root 330 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [charg]

    1 S root 346 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:09 [cdc-a]

    1 D root 359 2 0 75 -5 - 0 spi_sy Jul06 ? 9:50 [tp_wq]

    1 S root 366 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:49 [temt6]

    1 S root 378 2 0 75 -5 - 0 w1_con Jul06 ? 0:00 [w1_co]

    1 S root 381 2 0 75 -5 - 0 w1_pro Jul06 ? 0:00 [w1_bu]

    1 S root 386 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [ksnap]

    1 S root 387 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [konde]

    1 S root 388 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 5:53 [konde]

    1 S root 421 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [rpcio]

    1 S root 429 2 0 75 -5 - 0 mmc_qu Jul06 ? 4:57 [mmcqd]

    1 S root 435 2 0 75 -5 - 0 kjourn Jul06 ? 0:00 [kjour]

    1 S root 490 2 0 75 -5 - 0 kjourn Jul06 ? 1:24 [kjour]

    5 S root 524 1 0 76 -4 - 555 select Jul06 ? 0:23 udevd -

    1 S root 877 2 0 75 -5 - 0 kjourn Jul06 ? 0:06 [kjour]

    1 S root 929 2 0 75 -5 - 0 kjourn Jul06 ? 0:44 [kjour]

    1 S root 942 1 0 80 0 - 3076 fuse_d Jul06 ? 0:20 cryptof

    4 S root 1016 1 0 -39 - - 449 hrtime Jul06 ? 0:02 /sbin/w

    1 S root 1018 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 1:56 [pvr_t]

    1 S root 1033 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 2:25 [pvr_w]

    4 S root 1057 1 0 80 0 - 514 syslog Jul06 ? 0:10 /usr/bi

    0 S root 1058 1 0 80 0 - 3130 sys_po Jul06 ? 46:42 /usr/bi

    1 S root 1063 2 0 75 -5 - 0 sleep_ Jul06 ? 0:00 [usb_m]

    4 S root 1120 1 0 76 -4 - 674 select Jul06 ? 0:02 /sbin/n

    0 S root 1127 1 0 80 0 - 674 wait Jul06 ? 0:00 /bin/sh

    4 S root 1128 1127 0 80 0 - 1478 sys_po Jul06 ? 28:03 /usr/bi

    0 S root 1133 1 0 80 0 - 674 wait Jul06 ? 0:00 /bin/sh

    4 S root 1134 1133 0 80 0 - 1260 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:33 /usr/bi

    1 S root 1162 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [kcryp]

    1 S root 1163 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 7:30 [kcryp]

    1 S root 1166 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:00 [kcryp]

    1 S root 1168 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul06 ? 0:32 [kcryp]

    1 S root 1172 2 0 75 -5 - 0 kjourn Jul06 ? 0:10 [kjour]

    1 S root 1175 2 0 75 -5 - 0 kjourn Jul06 ? 0:00 [kjour]

    4 S root 1183 1 0 80 0 - 2334 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:29 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1187 1 0 80 0 - 3391 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1190 1 0 77 -3 - 16468 sys_po Jul06 ? 77:19 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1197 1 0 80 0 - 5480 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:12 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1198 1 0 80 0 - 7723 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:07 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1200 1 0 80 0 - 5993 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:03 Bluetoo

    4 S root 1203 1 0 79 -1 - 21696 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:53 /usr/sb

    4 S root 1211 1 0 80 0 - 1267 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1215 1 0 80 0 - 13674 sys_po Jul06 ? 26:38 /usr/bi

    4 S nobody 1223 1 0 80 0 - 970 select Jul06 ? 0:00 /usr/sb

    4 S root 1228 1 0 80 0 - 3362 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:05 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1232 1 0 80 0 - 4096 sys_po Jul06 ? 19:09 /usr/sb

    4 S pulse 1233 1 0 76 -4 - 65490 sys_po Jul06 ? 10:08 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1234 1 0 80 0 - 1973 sys_po Jul06 ? 1:05 /usr/bi

    0 S root 1235 1 0 80 0 - 745 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:00 /usr/sb

    4 S root 1236 1 0 80 0 - 7548 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:11 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1240 1 0 80 0 - 3933 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1241 1 0 80 0 - 4688 sys_po Jul06 ? 1:02 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1242 1 0 80 0 - 4962 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:29 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1299 1 0 80 0 - 1198 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:00 /var/us

    0 S root 1308 1 0 80 0 - 12090 sys_po Jul06 ? 4:47 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1439 1200 0 77 -3 - 16561 futex_ Jul06 ? 1:09 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1499 1 0 80 0 - 2402 sys_po Jul06 ? 5:35 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1508 1 0 80 0 - 3674 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:02 /usr/bi

    0 S root 1513 1 0 80 0 - 8324 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:04 PmWsfDa

    4 S root 1514 1200 0 80 0 - 18853 futex_ Jul06 ? 3:48 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1522 1 1 79 -1 - 21290 sys_po Jul06 ? 206:57 /usr/bi

    4 S root 1525 1 0 80 0 - 4406 sys_po Jul06 ? 0:14 /usr/bi

    5 S root 1595 1522 0 79 -1 - 69800 sys_po Jul06 ? 108:20 /usr/bi

    4 S root 4159 1 0 77 -3 - 7173 sys_po Jul14 ? 1:53 /usr/bi

    1 S root 4200 2 0 75 -5 - 0 worker Jul14 ? 0:00 [bridg]

    4 S root 4209 1 0 77 -3 - 2553 pipe_w Jul14 ? 0:04 OMXAudi

    0 S root 4211 1 0 77 -3 - 764 pipe_w Jul14 ? 0:00 logger
    0 S root 4212 1 0 77 -3 - 510 pipe_w Jul14 ? 0:00 OMXPoli

    0 S root 4213 1 0 77 -3 - 764 pipe_w Jul14 ? 0:00 logger
    4 S root 17432 1128 0 80 0 - 6367 sys_po Jul15 ? 0:16 /usr/bi

    1 S root 20487 2 0 75 -5 - 0 wlan_s Jul15 ? 0:00 [wlan_]

    4 S root 23482 1128 0 80 0 - 3889 sys_po Jul08 ? 0:26 /usr/bi

    4 S root 27877 1128 0 80 0 - 6224 sys_po Jul13 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    4 S root 28610 1128 0 80 0 - 5806 sys_po Jul13 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    4 S root 30692 1128 0 80 0 - 1360 sys_po 20:52 ? 0:00 /usr/sb

    4 S root 30742 1134 0 80 0 - 7086 epoll_ 20:53 ? 0:02 com.pal

    4 S root 30997 1120 0 79 -1 - 764 wait 21:12 pts/0 0:00 /bin/sh

    4 S luna 31006 1 0 80 0 - 13702 sys_po 21:12 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    4 S root 31076 1128 0 80 0 - 4201 sys_po 21:15 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    5 S root 32137 1 0 80 0 - 874 select Jul08 ttyACM0 0:00 pppd /d

    4 S root 32172 1 0 80 0 - 559 select Jul08 ? 0:00 /usr/bi

    root@webos-device:/#
    root@webos-device:/#

    Yeah... I can't figure out how to get to the stuff that is cut off... I have no scroll, it won't let me expand horizontally and select all going up doesn't help
  5. #5  
    That doesn't make any sense..... That almost looks like the output of just 'ps'. Hmmmmmm. Are you using the standard Windows terminal? I think you might be able to use another terminal emulator like PuTTY (which will give you a 1000000x better experience). But, I am not super familiar with Windows.

    When I get home I will run that command on a device that is basically factory fresh and see what it comes up with...
    Did you know:

    webOS ran on a Treo 800 during initial development.
  6.    #6  
    Quote Originally Posted by dkirker View Post
    That doesn't make any sense..... That almost looks like the output of just 'ps'. Hmmmmmm. Are you using the standard Windows terminal? I think you might be able to use another terminal emulator like PuTTY (which will give you a 1000000x better experience). But, I am not super familiar with Windows.

    When I get home I will run that command on a device that is basically factory fresh and see what it comes up with...
    I am on windows 7 for a PC... it is on it;s last leg and as much as I want to upgrade, that is not in the budget (not the love relationship I have with my phone)

    Worried about adding anything that will cause it to go into another blue screen of death.
  7.    #7  
    Quote Originally Posted by dkirker View Post
    That doesn't make any sense..... That almost looks like the output of just 'ps'. Hmmmmmm. Are you using the standard Windows terminal? I think you might be able to use another terminal emulator like PuTTY (which will give you a 1000000x better experience). But, I am not super familiar with Windows.

    When I get home I will run that command on a device that is basically factory fresh and see what it comes up with...
    Well... this is all sort of pointless now... was ignoring the Application Full message, got the restart and choose to wait on the restart. then I noticed my pictures and thumbnails were not available, the alarm clock stopped sounding an alarm, and then most of the applications just started to a gray screen...

    Took a deep breath and turned the phone off, and it wouldn't reboot... just the pulsing HP... put it in recovery mode and ran the Dr 3 times and it would never get past the pulsing HP... broke down and bought another pre 2, but still trying to revive this one.


    Any thoughts on this one would be most appreciated
  8. #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by kristinoberhaus View Post
    Well... this is all sort of pointless now... was ignoring the Application Full message, got the restart and choose to wait on the restart. then I noticed my pictures and thumbnails were not available, the alarm clock stopped sounding an alarm, and then most of the applications just started to a gray screen...

    Took a deep breath and turned the phone off, and it wouldn't reboot... just the pulsing HP... put it in recovery mode and ran the Dr 3 times and it would never get past the pulsing HP... broke down and bought another pre 2, but still trying to revive this one.


    Any thoughts on this one would be most appreciated
    I'm sorry to hear that.

    Well, it gets to the pulsing HP logo, which is a good sign. Are you able to novaterm into it? I assume doctoring it completed successfully?
    Did you know:

    webOS ran on a Treo 800 during initial development.
  9.    #9  
    Quote Originally Posted by dkirker View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that.

    Well, it gets to the pulsing HP logo, which is a good sign. Are you able to novaterm into it? I assume doctoring it completed successfully?
    Nove term? Not familiar with that, but am willling to try if you point me in the right direction.

    i have a replacement Plam Pre 2, however, is it palm logoed, not HP and it is WebOS 2.0.1 and updating it looks like it might be dangerous

    I have been seeing references to Meta Doctor, which I am trying to find a download for - it also looks like I have to use a linux installation...

    Sadly, everything I find assumes more than just a basic understanding of linux.... I am pretty good in windows and html and stuff like that, but was there ever a Palm Pre for dummies? You know, something that doesn't assume you know that there are more operating systems for PCs than just windows (I do, I just don't really know how to use them)
  10.    #10  
    Quote Originally Posted by kristinoberhaus View Post
    Nove term? Not familiar with that, but am willling to try if you point me in the right direction.

    i have a replacement Plam Pre 2, however, is it palm logoed, not HP and it is WebOS 2.0.1 and updating it looks like it might be dangerous

    I have been seeing references to Meta Doctor, which I am trying to find a download for - it also looks like I have to use a linux installation...

    Sadly, everything I find assumes more than just a basic understanding of linux.... I am pretty good in windows and html and stuff like that, but was there ever a Palm Pre for dummies? You know, something that doesn't assume you know that there are more operating systems for PCs than just windows (I do, I just don't really know how to use them)
    oh ,yeah... it always looks like the Doctor finished fine, it just never starts. If this was Windows, I would guess that there is a bad sector in the boot sector that keeps getting overwritten and the solution I would recommend would be to reformat. That being said, I have no idea how to get to a command line other than through Web OS Quick installer and doesn't see the phone.

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