++Web-a-thon2010 Thanksgiving Edition: Raised >$8,700 for WebOS Internals wOS & Pre2

Cantaffordit · 02:09 PM

WebOS Internals is an amazing group. They have done so much to make our phones fast and functional. They are the geniuses behind PreWare, Uberkernel and many of our favorite homebrew projects. Not everyone realizes that they do this on their own time, along with day jobs and family. Not only donating their time, but they have built an architecture with Preware that is secure and scalable enough to host/deliver stuff created by the rest of the homebrewers and theme builders. Hosting those servers, buying phones dedicated to development isn’t cheap. They need the support and donations of the users who benefit from their magic.

You often see posts asking: “will Preware work with 2.0?”, or “will we be able to overclock our current phones with 2.0?”, and “how long after 2.0 will we have to wait for preware/uberkernal/favorite patch”. YOU can a big difference in the answers! The WebOS Internals team needs to buy hardware for this effort – including hardware for the legendary Jason of Canuck Coding. The development team needs to buy a combination of new devices such as the Pre2/PalmPad/RoadRunnerHD/PalmSuperPhone/etc.

The sooner they have the equipment, the more of their stuff can be ready for the coming launch of 2.0 and new hardware.

This community has launched a “telethon” through year-end to raise the estimated $16,000 needed to purchase necessary hardware for development.over $3,000 has already been raised. No donation is too small. We need a bunch of $5 and $10 donations - and we need some benefactors to kick in bigger chunks.

Please donate through the paypal link below, and, please post your donation in this thread if you don't mind. I have been keeping a running total, and a running list of donors. Hopefully PC will again be gracious to help recognize benefactors like they did last time with the “top homebrew supporter” title.

This webOS community is legendary for how we come together to support webOS. Think of the “votes” we always win. Or the way members jump in to help each other with technical questions. Last time we had a “telethon” we raised almost $6,000 for these guys!

Ready, Set, Donate!

WebOS Internals:Site support - WebOS Internals

Cantaffordit · 01:34 PM

Here is Rod's message explaining the plan and budget for this effort:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhitby

Assuming that webOS 2.0, a next generation webOS phone, and a webOS tablet are all announced or released before the end of the year, WebOS Internals is going to need to have a significant donation influx to be able to purchase developer devices for our developers who create Preware, Save/Restore, Govnah, UberKernel, SR71, F10x, WarthogKernel, wIRC, Advanced Configuration for Application Launcher and other patches, to be able to make appropriate changes and test on the new OS and devices.

There are currently 15 WebOS Internals developers (none of which, including myself, have ever received any direct cash from donations to WebOS Internals) listed on [url= - WebOS Internals[/url] - so that adds up to a significant dollar amount just for those developer devices, let alone the additional load on the servers and infrastructure that will also need to be paid for (this additional significant cost is something that other homebrew developers don't need to worry about, because their homebrew packages and patches are served up by our ipkg.preware.org servers at no cost to them).

However, when you divide that significant dollar amount by the number of people who download and use the applications, kernels, patches, etc that we produce, it would only require each user to make a small donation and we would be completely covered for these expenses.

However, past history shows that less than 1/1000th of the users ever donate at all ...

Thanks again to all those who have done so in the past.

-- Rod

Cantaffordit · 11:35 AM

Total: $8732.52

Below is a list of donations from the original thread and this one though post #514. Thanks again for everyone's generosity. Every time I use something cool from the homebrew community I realize that it's because this community pulls together to support the amazing developers. I wish I were smart enough to be one, actually....

Listed alphabetically:

55.00 acarback
20.00 addiarmadar
50.00 adebo
10.00 AdmiralRaptor
50.00 ahitz
40.00 alacrify
30.00 Analog
35.00 AnaMayShun
15.00 Andymac
20.00 angus23
30.00 aric
125.00 ashi
10.00 aviator1977
50.00 Badcard
10.00 bdog421
10.00 beh
20.00 bemjb
75.00 bevcraw
15.00 bigzeto
150.00 bjs188
35.00 blue duck butter
32.00 bluenote
10.00 bnceo
30.00 BobbyMiele
40.00 BobKy
100.00 cantaffordit
50.00 caracolla
50.00 casion
40.00 ccano8
30.00 celenon
30.00 cglaguna
5.00 Cheechmo
50.00 chris42
40.00 cmahy
40.00 C-Note
50.00 Courousant
150.59 CptOx
5.00 craftsman
40.00 cranerep
30.00 crocostimpy
50.00 crowza
100.00 cshrader
179.00 Cuspie
30.00 cwest
40.00 cwgtex
35.00 Danstah
15.00 danxcook
35.00 Diesel Donkey
31.41 digitalNight
30.00 djmcgree
50.00 djprelude
50.00 dnanian
100.00 dougnail
40.00 DS_Palm_Lvr
10.00 duanedude
5.00 etx
10.00 ewl88
25.00 ezgoin
30.00 f8alErr05
50.00 Finally Pre
80.00 FireFox31
20.00 frankdavis
52.00 Garrett92C
30.00 GC916
40.00 germboy
75.00 GHT
40.00 gladesmellzgood
60.00 Godstyle
10.00 goingbended
1.00 gollyzila
45.00 govotsos
30.00 Goyena
15.00 grandebob (first!)
50.00 greenawayj
30.00 gsparks2
52.00 GuyFromNam
35.00 hboisvert
35.00 HebrewHammer
50.00 houshokm
30.00 houstonmale4
25.00 howardbw
30.00 Hz-R
30.00 ibmh
30.00 iradeut
40.00 irateb
40.00 jaltman
50.00 jasetroncs
32.00 jdm2010
30.00 jeffyen
10.00 jghacker
35.00 jimhuff
100.00 JimmyK
31.00 John_
30.00 Johnathon I Ezor
15.00 jp22382
30.00 jpgiv
35.00 jshare
20.00 kallan42
50.00 Kallistaman
50.00 Kewl700p
35.00 KnoxBNYC
100.00 Kyusaku
30.00 LateNight
150.00 LCGuy
40.00 lexb
15.00 lihn.nguyen
25.00 Linza
20.00 LLC23
50.00 LocoTreoGurl
10.00 lostsole1970
5.00 LWI
50.00 maqk
30.00 Meltedwire
30.00 mhunterjr
33.00 morgmel
50.00 Morrison0880
5.00 mpressive
30.00 MRand86
35.00 mrkalel
50.00 Mucciarelli
34.50 Navelfluff
30.00 navinag
40.00 neit_jnf
30.00 netwrkr9
50.00 neville
31.00 nightdevil21
40.00 nimer55
10.00 NinjaMunky
40.00 NoLeftHere
50.00 noseph
20.00 not-yet-pre
30.00 nxg125
10.00 nyallj
40.00 nytemyst
20.00 olidie
50.00 oobernuber
30.00 orabidoo976
20.00 PalmGeist
150.00 pastorrich1
200.00 Patalach
10.00 Patricksmangan
10.00 PaulGozniak
60.00 phil71
10.00 pilotovef
30.00 poppeye
10.00 Pre in MN
30.00 PreGP
30.00 PreGP
10.00 PrePetikeis
55.00 PrinceAlbert
55.00 psm9
40.00 Psychonaut
35.00 push2shock
25.00 Quintus
30.00 rattical
50.00 Richard Rosenberger
30.00 Riona
30.00 rlopin
50.00 rnatau
30.00 roams11
50.00 rogerkang
25.00 rothoof
15.00 runukraine
20.00 Rush
30.00 sapient2k7
10.00 schengenland
50.00 Scotland
20.00 Shadavis08
30.00 sidamos
50.00 sidjohn1
200.00 spdsktr
30.00 spudland
25.00 STBXXL
10.00 Stinkyfischer
30.00 stlsports
100.00 suburban war
100.00 Superjudge
15.00 T.E.N.
5.00 tayswg20
50.00 ThatTree
35.00 TheDizzAR
50.00 TheMacs
20.00 thesnowdog
40.00 titan078
20.00 tommce
100.00 TopTongueBarry
10.00 Trader05
10.00 treetom
50.00 trekker
35.00 treo3002600
30.00 troymiller
30.00 vbockius
50.00 Vidahlia
30.00 wellwellwell1
15.00 whodo voodoo
35.00 windzilla
35.00 wyckedankh
5.00 YankBoy
100.00 zenshinji
20.00 zmann
15.00 zulaj

There are several donations posted with no amount listed so I didn't include them here. If they want to post or PM me the amount, I will add them to this list. This list will be updated to keep the donor list together. If I have missed anyone, spelled a name wrong, or listed the wrong amount, please PM me and I will fix it.

windzilla · 03:50 PM

Annnnnnd donated!

$20

addiarmadar · 11/10/2010, 01:38 PM

I missed the palmcast last night (thank gawd for Dr. Podder) , did this get a shout there? I tweeted it to give the shout out.

Trekker · 02:09 PM

Has anyone contacted Dieter to see if PreCentral can do a quick article on the telethon? That should get some visibility.

Cantaffordit · 11/10/2010, 01:49 PM

I sent a pm and tip message to dieter. I will let you know when I hear something. Feel free to also message him

Cantaffordit · 11/10/2010, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addiarmadar

I missed the palmcast last night (thank gawd for Dr. Podder) , did this get a shout there? I tweeted it to give the shout out.

yes it did

vza33 · 11/10/2010, 02:47 PM

Bump! Let's go!!!

acarback · 11/10/2010, 03:40 PM

Done. $25

Cantaffordit · 11/10/2010, 04:15 PM

current total $1,610

who wants to be next?

WebOS Internals:Site support - WebOS Internals

Andymac85 · 04:53 PM

just donated $15

edit: what twitter hashtag are we going to use? #pre2telethon ?

Cantaffordit · 11/10/2010, 04:45 PM

Thanks!. $1,625 is the new total.

Who is next?

jp22382 · 11/10/2010, 04:47 PM

$15 on the way!

Cantaffordit · 11/10/2010, 04:49 PM

$1,640

Cantaffordit · 11/10/2010, 04:50 PM

We need someone in the Palm developer program to approach Palm about a grant or matching donation. Is there anyone in the dev program that would be willing to approach developer relations at palm? I'm not a dev, so I'd get caught in their spam filter.

Let me know if there are any volunteers.

Thanks!

Titan078 · 11/10/2010, 05:00 PM

40.00 donated

AdmiralRaptor · 11/10/2010, 05:04 PM

$10.00 Donated. Love!

rothoof · 11/10/2010, 05:04 PM

Donated 25.00

Cantaffordit · 11/10/2010, 05:17 PM

Up to $1,750
I have to step out for a few hours. Let's see if we can get over $2 grand before I get back! :-)

View Poll Results: Will you contribute this telethon?
Yes, I just made a donation	175	70.85%
Yes, I will make a donation soon	52	21.05%
No, but I have donated before	9	3.64%
No, I wont be donating during this fundraiser	13	5.26%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 247. You may not vote on this poll

11/10/2010, 11:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	++Web-a-thon2010 Thanksgiving Edition: Raised >$8,700 for WebOS Internals wOS & Pre2 WebOS Internals is an amazing group. They have done so much to make our phones fast and functional. They are the geniuses behind PreWare, Uberkernel and many of our favorite homebrew projects. Not everyone realizes that they do this on their own time, along with day jobs and family. Not only donating their time, but they have built an architecture with Preware that is secure and scalable enough to host/deliver stuff created by the rest of the homebrewers and theme builders. Hosting those servers, buying phones dedicated to development isn’t cheap. They need the support and donations of the users who benefit from their magic. You often see posts asking: “will Preware work with 2.0?”, or “will we be able to overclock our current phones with 2.0?”, and “how long after 2.0 will we have to wait for preware/uberkernal/favorite patch”. YOU can a big difference in the answers! The WebOS Internals team needs to buy hardware for this effort – including hardware for the legendary Jason of Canuck Coding. The development team needs to buy a combination of new devices such as the Pre2/PalmPad/RoadRunnerHD/PalmSuperPhone/etc. The sooner they have the equipment, the more of their stuff can be ready for the coming launch of 2.0 and new hardware. This community has launched a “telethon” through year-end to raise the estimated $16,000 needed to purchase necessary hardware for development.over $3,000 has already been raised. No donation is too small. We need a bunch of $5 and $10 donations - and we need some benefactors to kick in bigger chunks. Please donate through the paypal link below, and, please post your donation in this thread if you don't mind. I have been keeping a running total, and a running list of donors. Hopefully PC will again be gracious to help recognize benefactors like they did last time with the “top homebrew supporter” title. This webOS community is legendary for how we come together to support webOS. Think of the “votes” we always win. Or the way members jump in to help each other with technical questions. Last time we had a “telethon” we raised almost $6,000 for these guys! Ready, Set, Donate! WebOS Internals:Site support - WebOS Internals Last edited by Cantaffordit; 12/23/2010 at 02:09 PM. Reason: updated title
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11/10/2010, 12:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	Total: $8732.52 Below is a list of donations from the original thread and this one though post #514. Thanks again for everyone's generosity. Every time I use something cool from the homebrew community I realize that it's because this community pulls together to support the amazing developers. I wish I were smart enough to be one, actually.... Listed alphabetically: 55.00 acarback 20.00 addiarmadar 50.00 adebo 10.00 AdmiralRaptor 50.00 ahitz 40.00 alacrify 30.00 Analog 35.00 AnaMayShun 15.00 Andymac 20.00 angus23 30.00 aric 125.00 ashi 10.00 aviator1977 50.00 Badcard 10.00 bdog421 10.00 beh 20.00 bemjb 75.00 bevcraw 15.00 bigzeto 150.00 bjs188 35.00 blue duck butter 32.00 bluenote 10.00 bnceo 30.00 BobbyMiele 40.00 BobKy 100.00 cantaffordit 50.00 caracolla 50.00 casion 40.00 ccano8 30.00 celenon 30.00 cglaguna 5.00 Cheechmo 50.00 chris42 40.00 cmahy 40.00 C-Note 50.00 Courousant 150.59 CptOx 5.00 craftsman 40.00 cranerep 30.00 crocostimpy 50.00 crowza 100.00 cshrader 179.00 Cuspie 30.00 cwest 40.00 cwgtex 35.00 Danstah 15.00 danxcook 35.00 Diesel Donkey 31.41 digitalNight 30.00 djmcgree 50.00 djprelude 50.00 dnanian 100.00 dougnail 40.00 DS_Palm_Lvr 10.00 duanedude 5.00 etx 10.00 ewl88 25.00 ezgoin 30.00 f8alErr05 50.00 Finally Pre 80.00 FireFox31 20.00 frankdavis 52.00 Garrett92C 30.00 GC916 40.00 germboy 75.00 GHT 40.00 gladesmellzgood 60.00 Godstyle 10.00 goingbended 1.00 gollyzila 45.00 govotsos 30.00 Goyena 15.00 grandebob (first!) 50.00 greenawayj 30.00 gsparks2 52.00 GuyFromNam 35.00 hboisvert 35.00 HebrewHammer 50.00 houshokm 30.00 houstonmale4 25.00 howardbw 30.00 Hz-R 30.00 ibmh 30.00 iradeut 40.00 irateb 40.00 jaltman 50.00 jasetroncs 32.00 jdm2010 30.00 jeffyen 10.00 jghacker 35.00 jimhuff 100.00 JimmyK 31.00 John_ 30.00 Johnathon I Ezor 15.00 jp22382 30.00 jpgiv 35.00 jshare 20.00 kallan42 50.00 Kallistaman 50.00 Kewl700p 35.00 KnoxBNYC 100.00 Kyusaku 30.00 LateNight 150.00 LCGuy 40.00 lexb 15.00 lihn.nguyen 25.00 Linza 20.00 LLC23 50.00 LocoTreoGurl 10.00 lostsole1970 5.00 LWI 50.00 maqk 30.00 Meltedwire 30.00 mhunterjr 33.00 morgmel 50.00 Morrison0880 5.00 mpressive 30.00 MRand86 35.00 mrkalel 50.00 Mucciarelli 34.50 Navelfluff 30.00 navinag 40.00 neit_jnf 30.00 netwrkr9 50.00 neville 31.00 nightdevil21 40.00 nimer55 10.00 NinjaMunky 40.00 NoLeftHere 50.00 noseph 20.00 not-yet-pre 30.00 nxg125 10.00 nyallj 40.00 nytemyst 20.00 olidie 50.00 oobernuber 30.00 orabidoo976 20.00 PalmGeist 150.00 pastorrich1 200.00 Patalach 10.00 Patricksmangan 10.00 PaulGozniak 60.00 phil71 10.00 pilotovef 30.00 poppeye 10.00 Pre in MN 30.00 PreGP 30.00 PreGP 10.00 PrePetikeis 55.00 PrinceAlbert 55.00 psm9 40.00 Psychonaut 35.00 push2shock 25.00 Quintus 30.00 rattical 50.00 Richard Rosenberger 30.00 Riona 30.00 rlopin 50.00 rnatau 30.00 roams11 50.00 rogerkang 25.00 rothoof 15.00 runukraine 20.00 Rush 30.00 sapient2k7 10.00 schengenland 50.00 Scotland 20.00 Shadavis08 30.00 sidamos 50.00 sidjohn1 200.00 spdsktr 30.00 spudland 25.00 STBXXL 10.00 Stinkyfischer 30.00 stlsports 100.00 suburban war 100.00 Superjudge 15.00 T.E.N. 5.00 tayswg20 50.00 ThatTree 35.00 TheDizzAR 50.00 TheMacs 20.00 thesnowdog 40.00 titan078 20.00 tommce 100.00 TopTongueBarry 10.00 Trader05 10.00 treetom 50.00 trekker 35.00 treo3002600 30.00 troymiller 30.00 vbockius 50.00 Vidahlia 30.00 wellwellwell1 15.00 whodo voodoo 35.00 windzilla 35.00 wyckedankh 5.00 YankBoy 100.00 zenshinji 20.00 zmann 15.00 zulaj There are several donations posted with no amount listed so I didn't include them here. If they want to post or PM me the amount, I will add them to this list. This list will be updated to keep the donor list together. If I have missed anyone, spelled a name wrong, or listed the wrong amount, please PM me and I will fix it. Last edited by Cantaffordit; 01/11/2011 at 11:35 AM. Reason: names added
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11/10/2010, 01:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
windzilla Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Woo, MA Posts: 1,438 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 287 Thanked 464 Times in 250 Posts	Annnnnnd donated! $20 Last edited by windzilla; 11/10/2010 at 03:50 PM.
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11/10/2010, 01:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
addiarmadar Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! Posts: 1,353 Likes Received: 24 Thanks: 36 Thanked 187 Times in 158 Posts	I missed the palmcast last night (thank gawd for Dr. Podder) , did this get a shout there? I tweeted it to give the shout out.
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11/10/2010, 01:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Trekker Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Subspace Posts: 2,592 Likes Received: 13 Thanks: 603 Thanked 511 Times in 324 Posts	Has anyone contacted Dieter to see if PreCentral can do a quick article on the telethon? That should get some visibility. Last edited by Trekker; 11/10/2010 at 02:09 PM.
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11/10/2010, 01:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	I sent a pm and tip message to dieter. I will let you know when I hear something. Feel free to also message him
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11/10/2010, 02:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
vza33 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,182 Likes Received: 25 Thanks: 1,584 Thanked 1,345 Times in 984 Posts	Bump! Let's go!!! __________________ "Patience, use the force, think." Obi-Wan Ready to try Preware? Get this first: Preware Homebrew Documentation
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11/10/2010, 03:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
acarback Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of Baltimore & North of DC Posts: 19 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 15 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Done. $25 __________________ - acarback aka Roots Up Development
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11/10/2010, 04:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	current total $1,610 who wants to be next? WebOS Internals:Site support - WebOS Internals
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11/10/2010, 04:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
Andymac85 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 79 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 15 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	just donated $15 edit: what twitter hashtag are we going to use? #pre2telethon ? Last edited by Andymac85; 11/10/2010 at 04:53 PM.
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11/10/2010, 04:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	Thanks!. $1,625 is the new total. Who is next?
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11/10/2010, 04:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
jp22382 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 364 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 173 Thanked 200 Times in 47 Posts	$15 on the way!
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11/10/2010, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	$1,640
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11/10/2010, 04:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	We need someone in the Palm developer program to approach Palm about a grant or matching donation. Is there anyone in the dev program that would be willing to approach developer relations at palm? I'm not a dev, so I'd get caught in their spam filter. Let me know if there are any volunteers. Thanks!
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11/10/2010, 05:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
Titan078 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 721 Likes Received: 29 Thanks: 361 Thanked 72 Times in 59 Posts	40.00 donated
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11/10/2010, 05:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
AdmiralRaptor Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: BC Canada Posts: 91 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 37 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	$10.00 Donated. Love! __________________ The water was cold so I came back <3
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11/10/2010, 05:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
rothoof Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeast Kansas Posts: 509 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 57 Thanked 48 Times in 30 Posts	Donated 25.00 __________________
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11/10/2010, 05:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Cantaffordit Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15,150 Likes Received: 958 Thanks: 3,804 Thanked 3,911 Times in 2,777 Posts	Up to $1,750 I have to step out for a few hours. Let's see if we can get over $2 grand before I get back! :-)
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