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  1. #21  
    Just call and add tep! 7.00 per mo.
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  2. #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett92C View Post
    OP, this is a perfect time to upgrade to a Pre Plus (if you are comfortable with replacing some internals). You can buy a bad ESN Verizon Pre, swap the Comm board, and use the Plus on Sprint... If you're going to bother tearing apart your Pre to replace the LCD, you might as well get a Plus lol.
    That's exactly what I was going to recommend. You get twice the RAM, twice the storage, and less than half the cost.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    It is as if you said that the result a dog and a cat mating was a giraffe. It's so completely wrong, that it's difficult to argue with someone who believes it to be true.
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by 2sslow View Post
    Just call and add tep! 7.00 per mo.
    I have mixed feelings on that one. I know that Sprint gives you a certain amount of time after getting a new phone to sign up for TEP, and I realize that they don't ask any questions about the condition of your phone when you add it to your plan which means it's not technically fraud as far as I know; but that just seems like a sleaze-ball thing to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    It is as if you said that the result a dog and a cat mating was a giraffe. It's so completely wrong, that it's difficult to argue with someone who believes it to be true.
  4. #24  
    I donno. I have the Sprint insurance, and my screen just cracked. Mind you I didn't drop it - I'm actually not sure what happened although I've read here in the forums about phones cracking with no abuse. Anyway, I've got the insurance but since physical damage isn't covered, I'm being told I have to pay a $100 deductible to get a replacement. Now, I get that I can't prove I didn't drop it, but that's a steep deductible considering they are now selling the brand new device for about $150, and considering I've been a Sprint customer for 10+ years.

    Anyway, my point is just that, knowing what I know now, I may not have purchased the $7/mo insurance.
  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by smedley12 View Post
    I donno. I have the Sprint insurance, and my screen just cracked. Mind you I didn't drop it - I'm actually not sure what happened although I've read here in the forums about phones cracking with no abuse. Anyway, I've got the insurance but since physical damage isn't covered, I'm being told I have to pay a $100 deductible to get a replacement. Now, I get that I can't prove I didn't drop it, but that's a steep deductible considering they are now selling the brand new device for about $150, and considering I've been a Sprint customer for 10+ years.

    Anyway, my point is just that, knowing what I know now, I may not have purchased the $7/mo insurance.
    You are confusing the issue w/ your statement, You might find a used Sprint device for 150.00 if you are lucky, but a new OFF CONTRACT device is still going to cost you 250.00.

    Since 99% of Sprint customers are eligible for an upgrade after 1 yr your total maximum out of pocket if you have tep and damage your device after 11 mos would be 11 x 7.00 plus 100.00 = 177.00 still way less than the cost of an off contract device.

    Now lets say you still have to wait 2 yrs Sprint will let you upgrade at 22 mos so thats 21 x 7.00 plus 100.00 = 247.00 still cheaper than an off contract device.

    Now for the real kicker; What if you damage your Pre twice or more in 2 yrs?

    Tep is a good thing on a smart phone, Dont leave home w/o it! These devices dont react well to LIFE. Stuff happens. just an inadvertent slip and you are out 250.00 Plus you are w/o a phone for a few days until your new device arrives.

    W/ tep you will have a new device in under 24 hrs.
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  6. #26  
    Nevermind.
    Last edited by VeeDubb65; 08/03/2010 at 12:12 AM. Reason: edited out of existence because it was a mile long and completely off topic.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    It is as if you said that the result a dog and a cat mating was a giraffe. It's so completely wrong, that it's difficult to argue with someone who believes it to be true.
  7. #27  
    veedubb i appreciate your intelligently structured arguement, but i dont agree. i have insurance, i got my pre this past christmas '09, and i plan on getting the next palm device. insurance is $7/mo, lets say ill have it till the next device which we could GUESS will come out before or around this coming christmas '10, thats 7x12=$84 already paid for insurance. my phone has a crack that i got recently, nothing big, but i would have to pay $100 to replace it because its physical damage. a difference of $16 compared to how much i would pay to replace it without insurance.

    i agree with 2sslow. something as fragile as a smartphone has to be insured. its logical. it does definitely suck that the phone is so fragile, and that i still have to pay for a physically damaged phone even though it is insured, but its the lesser of two evils.

    think i said this previously - imagine a mil-spec palm...oooolala
  8. #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by ofthecats86 View Post
    something as fragile as a smartphone has to be insured. its logical.
    Well, it would be logical, except for the undeniable fact that Sprint makes a profit from TEP. If they make a profit, it means that the majority of users will get less out of it than they put in.

    It's just dead simple. Profit means they spend less than they make.

    What they make is what users put in.
    What they spend is what they pay out to users PLUS overhead.

    Flip that around and you'll see that over the long haul, the "average" consumer will always get out less than they put in.

    If YOU come out ahead on THIS particular item, it does NOT mean that you would come out ahead at the end of your life having paid $7/month on every cell phone you ever own. It's just like a casino. You can go into a casino and win a jackpot making you come out far ahead for the day. However, if you take a bankroll the same size to the same casino every week for 10 years, you'll come out far far far behind.



    *For those who missed it before I took it out, the VERY short version of the post he is referring to was that for the reasons I've just restated, insurance and extended warranties should only be purchased for the following reasons:

    a. You're required to carry a particular insurance by law or contract.
    b. The cost of the material thing is so high that it's loss would be catastrophic. (Your home or a car that you couldn't write a check to replace)
    c. The event against which you are insuring has the potential to be catastrophic. (Health insurance, life insurance, and appropriate liability insurance)
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    It is as if you said that the result a dog and a cat mating was a giraffe. It's so completely wrong, that it's difficult to argue with someone who believes it to be true.
  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    I have mixed feelings on that one. I know that Sprint gives you a certain amount of time after getting a new phone to sign up for TEP, and I realize that they don't ask any questions about the condition of your phone when you add it to your plan which means it's not technically fraud as far as I know; but that just seems like a sleaze-ball thing to do.
    You're "feelings" are right, but your interpretation is wrong. You do have 30 days, but the "loss" must occur after you enroll in the TEP program. If your loss occurred before you enrolled, it's not covered, technically or otherwise. You may get away with it, but it's fraud.
  10. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by smedley12 View Post
    I donno. I have the Sprint insurance, and my screen just cracked. Mind you I didn't drop it - I'm actually not sure what happened although I've read here in the forums about phones cracking with no abuse. Anyway, I've got the insurance but since physical damage isn't covered, I'm being told I have to pay a $100 deductible to get a replacement. Now, I get that I can't prove I didn't drop it, but that's a steep deductible considering they are now selling the brand new device for about $150, and considering I've been a Sprint customer for 10+ years.

    Anyway, my point is just that, knowing what I know now, I may not have purchased the $7/mo insurance.
    I agree that requiring the $100 deductible on a known issue is questionable, but where are they selling brand new Pres for $150?
  11. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    Well, it would be logical, except for the undeniable fact that Sprint makes a profit from TEP. If they make a profit, it means that the majority of users will get less out of it than they put in.
    ...

    for the reasons I've just restated, insurance and extended warranties should only be purchased for the following reasons:

    a. You're required to carry a particular insurance by law or contract.
    b. The cost of the material thing is so high that it's loss would be catastrophic. (Your home or a car that you couldn't write a check to replace)c. The event against which you are insuring has the potential to be catastrophic. (Health insurance, life insurance, and appropriate liability insurance)
    All insurance should make money for the company. If not, the company needs to rework their business plan.

    "catastrophic" is a very relative term. I can afford $7 extra a month to know for sure that I can replace my phone immediately (with $100 added to my bill). There are weeks when I can't afford a $250-$500 hit.

    For those that can, yes the insurance isn't needed.

    Different folks have different needs.
  12. #32  
    The magic of Ebay can help you.

    I purchased 3 extra phones on Ebay (so I have 4 total) , 3 separate auctions . combined it cost $270 . I got 3 Palm Pres , 2 TouchStones (stones and backs) , 8 Batteries and ton's more extras. (One auction was loaded with extras, it was the most expensive one, I stole it for $104)

    I just sold one phone with one of the Touchstone Kits an extra battery and some crappy extras for $140 (on ebay). So that leaves me with 1 Touchstone Kit, 2 extra Pres and all the accessories worth keeping for $130.

    Most likely I will sell one and keep the one that had been manufactured most recently as a backup, all while continuing to use my cracked (usb port crack) but fully functioning Pre.

    If I sell one I'll get about $80 for it so I ended up with an excellent condition recently manufactured backup Pre that I chose from the three , a Touchstone kit and some nice extras for $50.

    I also could sell the on I am using and one of leftover Ebay ones, make all my money back,and walk away with a new recently manufact. Pre , Touchstone and a bunch more for next to nothing.

    TLDR

    OK MY POINT IS , if you have the balls and are willing to risk a little money and time on Ebay it could really work out in your favor.
  13. #33  
    mine just cracked a week ago too, making the touch screen and gesture area useless. I paid $127 to Sprint, and they gave me a brand new one - and I was able to add insurance, since it was a new phone. Good deal!
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  14. #34  
    I'm going to have to side with veedubb on this one. I'm glad I didn't get TEP, and my screen is now cracked. I'm a couple months from the end of my contract, and I have the USB-door-crack problem. I got an almost-launch-day Pre. The crack is slowly growing, so if it becomes unusable, I'll ebay myself a new Pre. If I bought insurance from day one, I would've paid more for insurance that a replacement phone.

    $7/month never sounded too cost effective to me.
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    Sprint- Palm pre(great condition)

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  16. #36  
    Heres the thing. Insurance should only be used for phones that are lost, stolen, liquid damaged, or have incedental physical damage. By incedental the damae should be due to an incedent that caused physical damage. IE the op dropping his phone. one thing that ****es me off about sprint is that they try to pass off what ESRP should cover. Sprint reps try telling you that anything physical need to go through ERP (insurance) and a claim filed for 100 dollars deductible, even if the physical issue is one of manufacture defect, IE screen cracking from usb port on pre.

    One thing i do remeber sprint used to do was that if you don't have ESRP, they will repair or replace your phone with a refurbished one, for a charge based on a tiered charging prices depending on what the problem is. As long as your phone is refuribishable(no liquied damage) they will give you a refurbished one. I think cracked screen was like a 100 dollars. which seems like a better deal than paying insurance and esrp (TEP) for 7 dollars a month plus the same 100 dollar deductible. If they still do that im not sure, I think it was a great option, because it didnt compete with the insurance program, because the insurance program also covered lost, stolen, and liquid damage.
  17. #37  
    Quote Originally Posted by hparsons View Post
    "catastrophic" is a very relative term. I can afford $7 extra a month to know for sure that I can replace my phone immediately (with $100 added to my bill). There are weeks when I can't afford a $250-$500 hit.
    This is not directed at you personally, but at about 2/3 of the western world.

    I would suggest that a person who has a smartphone plan that runs anywhere from $70/month and up, but has less than $250 saved for emergencies, is doing things wrong. These are the mindsets that lead to bankruptcy.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    It is as if you said that the result a dog and a cat mating was a giraffe. It's so completely wrong, that it's difficult to argue with someone who believes it to be true.
  18.    #38  
    Guys, interesting thoughts (I am also not a big fan of any insurance system either, which is why I didn't take the TEP... and now regret it! )...

    But back to the reason I opened the thread if that's ok?

    I will go see Sprint tonight to discuss a replacement by a refurbished (which multiple people said might be available for $100).

    If anybody has a new idea for another way to replace or fix my broken Pal Pre, something different than anything previously discussed... please speak up! But I suspect we covered all basics. Many thanks for all the very useful responses.
  19. #39  
    I recently got 2 Pres off of craigslist (one looks like a new refurb), both $120 with touchstones etc., activated both before giving up the money. That said, it's the reason why I have never bought into TEP - the math just turns me off especially now that the deductible is $100. With craigslist, you get your phone immediately since it's local and you just have to meet up with the seller and verify that the phone does indeed work. Good luck to you friend.
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  20.    #40  
    Well, I went to a Sprint repair shop last night, and I didn't stumble on a nice guy, I'm afraid, or I didn't play it well enough, don't know.

    Anyway, I ended up with $119 repair bill to replace the phone's screen. I took it to get the problem out of my way, but I now really wonder if I shouldn't have gone the eBay (or Craig's list) way... Oh well.

    Thanks again for all the folks who helped on this thread.

    PS. the guy also stated that TEP would NOT cover such damage. I didn't press the issue as it was irrelevant for me anyway, but this seems insane. Goes in the way of the folks who don't like insurance schemes...
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