Ditching my EVO for a Pre. Am I crazy?

boogaloo1 · 07/29/2010, 11:59 AM

I have been using Android for a couple of weeks, but I miss WebOS so much. I miss the synergy of my calendar, multiple-exchange accounts (EVO only supports one exchange account) and 3D gaming.

The EVO is a great phone, fast processor, dual cameras etc. I wish there was a way to port WebOS to the EVO. LOL!

I'm picking up my Pre tomorrow morning, then putting my EVO on eBay. Back when I had my Pre, I always had to reboot after playing Need for Speed or any other intense 3D game. Has anyone figured out how to get past this issue?

Switching from EVO to Pre - am I insane?

pre-fan · 07/29/2010, 12:04 PM

I don't think you're insane. I made the exact same switch as you. Earlier this year, I moved from a Sprint Pre to the iPhone. Kept the iPhone on AT&T only a couple of months, then moved to Virgin Mobile prepaid while I decided what smartphone I wanted next. Then, had an EVO 4G for about five hours before deciding the hardware build quality was absolute crap. Got a full refund on that, and kept using the VM prepaid phone for a couple more weeks. I then settled on a Pre Plus on VZW and I'm happy again.

birchasr · 07/29/2010, 12:04 PM

I wouldn't call you insane because everybody has different preferences. I have a couple of coworkers who have the EVO and while it is a great phone and I would probably enjoy owning it, I know I would miss webOS too much.

You know what works best for you so don't worry what everyone else thinks.

jeffreb · 07/29/2010, 12:16 PM

if you can tether your pre, you could go with both...
like woz said, two phones can be better than one

BlkAv8r · 07/29/2010, 12:23 PM

I'm using the F105 Thunderchief over clocking option @ 1.0gz - haven't had a tmc error since...

Mikey47 · 07/29/2010, 12:25 PM

Don't think you are crazy at all -- in fact, I would say quite the opposite. Too many phanboys have only really every used their one platform, yet think it is THE best for everyone. You have to use what works for you! Glad you found the hardware that does that!

Different strokes for different folks.

To answer your question: Overclocking with a compache compatible kernel (like UberKernel and Govnah) greatly reduces the out of memory errors (I say reduces, others will say removes).

Workerb33 · 07/29/2010, 12:37 PM

I salute you!

stung · 07/29/2010, 12:44 PM

You are crazy if you plan on buying a Pre now and then buying whatever new hardware that comes out in a few months. If it were me, I'd rather keep the Evo for a few months, then switch to the new Palm hardware.

anifan · 07/29/2010, 12:47 PM

Good choice. Though admittedly a kickstand is pretty BA for a phone (if a little ridiculous).

TreoRock · 07/29/2010, 01:11 PM

I use compache on my Pre and never have to reboot my Pre to play games. Love it!

zulfaqar621 · 07/29/2010, 01:20 PM

If you are tech savvy enough and not afraid to doctor your phone if something goes wrong give the Black Bird SR71 kernel a whirl. It overclocks your phone to 1.2Ghz and you will get no TMC errors. In another thread that I started, I said that I tested the EVO against my OC'd Palm Pre and found it to be more responsive than the EVO.

The things you will probably miss since there is no patch that can fix them are the big screen, front facing camera, 4g (maybe), and the much larger app catalog.

Good luck with your decision.

OldSkoolVWLover · 07/29/2010, 01:48 PM

Running UberKernel (the public release) will fix your problems with TMC, I run UK w/ factory Kernel settings +compcache and it works great.

jbg7474 · 07/29/2010, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolVWLover

Running UberKernel (the public release) will fix your problems with TMC, I run UK w/ factory Kernel settings +compcache and it works great.

Very true. It is possible (though unpopular) to run the UberKernel without overclocking. TMC errors will be reduced even without compcache (or overclocking) because the webosinternals folks have modified the calculation for it.

Achill3s · 07/29/2010, 03:21 PM

on the hardware side, yes you're crazy. On the software side, best move ever!

Throw WebOS on the HTC hw and it's a dream device.

Mikey47 · 07/29/2010, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achill3s

Throw WebOS on the HTC hw and it's a dream device.

How about a nice new juicy rumor....

The reason HP has been mum on new hardware is that they are negotiating to buy HTC so that it can release webOS on their HW....wish I had the pull to get that one off the ground.

voodoochild · 07/29/2010, 03:51 PM

I think it sounds like a very sane idea

OldSkoolVWLover · 07/29/2010, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbg7474

Very true. It is possible (though unpopular) to run the UberKernel without overclocking. TMC errors will be reduced even without compcache (or overclocking) because the webosinternals folks have modified the calculation for it.

True True, UK is handling memory management/TMC very nicely. I can load multiple games (just to test never could think of a need). I can have multiple cards open and still open Dr Podder and Internalz with no TMC.

I am almost to the point of putting UK on the wife's phone. Haven't done it yet, cuz I don't keep up on her phone like I do mine, so if it was doing something weird or misses an update for a while it doesn't get updated until I need to do something else in Preware. Not that she couldn't do it, she just doesn't care quite as much as I do (or most of us on these forums

).

apalemick · 07/29/2010, 04:45 PM

I was in a Sprint store today and played with an EVO for about 20 minutes.

Gotta say I was not that impressed. Nothing compares to the simplicity of WebOS.

pre-fan · 07/29/2010, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey47

How about a nice new juicy rumor....

The reason HP has been mum on new hardware is that they are negotiating to buy HTC so that it can release webOS on their HW....wish I had the pull to get that one off the ground.

Wish it weren't a joke.

wifiguru · 07/29/2010, 05:12 PM

That's it.

After reading this, I am going back to my Pre Plus and selling my Droid Incredible on eBay.

Played around with my Pre Plus today, and I actually MISS IT.

Miss the keyboard, miss the community, miss WebOS, everything.

The only thing I'll miss on my Droid Incredible is the camera, but I guess that's why I have my point and shoot.

07/29/2010, 11:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
boogaloo1 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 96 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 11 Thanked 33 Times in 19 Posts	Ditching my EVO for a Pre. Am I crazy? I have been using Android for a couple of weeks, but I miss WebOS so much. I miss the synergy of my calendar, multiple-exchange accounts (EVO only supports one exchange account) and 3D gaming. The EVO is a great phone, fast processor, dual cameras etc. I wish there was a way to port WebOS to the EVO. LOL! I'm picking up my Pre tomorrow morning, then putting my EVO on eBay. Back when I had my Pre, I always had to reboot after playing Need for Speed or any other intense 3D game. Has anyone figured out how to get past this issue? Switching from EVO to Pre - am I insane?
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07/29/2010, 12:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
pre-fan Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 217 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 70 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	I don't think you're insane. I made the exact same switch as you. Earlier this year, I moved from a Sprint Pre to the iPhone. Kept the iPhone on AT&T only a couple of months, then moved to Virgin Mobile prepaid while I decided what smartphone I wanted next. Then, had an EVO 4G for about five hours before deciding the hardware build quality was absolute crap. Got a full refund on that, and kept using the VM prepaid phone for a couple more weeks. I then settled on a Pre Plus on VZW and I'm happy again.
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07/29/2010, 12:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
birchasr Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 40 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I wouldn't call you insane because everybody has different preferences. I have a couple of coworkers who have the EVO and while it is a great phone and I would probably enjoy owning it, I know I would miss webOS too much. You know what works best for you so don't worry what everyone else thinks.
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07/29/2010, 12:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
jeffreb Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 29 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	if you can tether your pre, you could go with both... like woz said, two phones can be better than one
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07/29/2010, 12:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
BlkAv8r Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 149 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	I'm using the F105 Thunderchief over clocking option @ 1.0gz - haven't had a tmc error since... __________________ Treo 600 650 700p 800w Pre
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07/29/2010, 12:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mikey47 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western WI Posts: 1,606 Likes Received: 76 Thanks: 108 Thanked 271 Times in 182 Posts	Don't think you are crazy at all -- in fact, I would say quite the opposite. Too many phanboys have only really every used their one platform, yet think it is THE best for everyone. You have to use what works for you! Glad you found the hardware that does that! Different strokes for different folks. To answer your question: Overclocking with a compache compatible kernel (like UberKernel and Govnah) greatly reduces the out of memory errors (I say reduces, others will say removes).
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07/29/2010, 12:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
Workerb33 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,216 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 454 Thanked 871 Times in 699 Posts	I salute you!
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07/29/2010, 12:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
stung Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: on the internets Posts: 664 Likes Received: 14 Thanks: 84 Thanked 210 Times in 126 Posts	You are crazy if you plan on buying a Pre now and then buying whatever new hardware that comes out in a few months. If it were me, I'd rather keep the Evo for a few months, then switch to the new Palm hardware. __________________ gesture bar + true multitasking > fully-featured OS and SDK, quality apps, greater developer interest, battery life, reliable hardware Not enough apps in the catalog? Well, the apps suit my needs just fine. You're on your 3rd replacement? My launch day Pre never had a problem. WebOS = potential
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07/29/2010, 12:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
anifan Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Las Cruces, NM, USA Posts: 187 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 20 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Good choice. Though admittedly a kickstand is pretty BA for a phone (if a little ridiculous).
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07/29/2010, 01:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
TreoRock Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: CA Posts: 3,099 Likes Received: 26 Thanks: 350 Thanked 125 Times in 80 Posts	I use compache on my Pre and never have to reboot my Pre to play games. Love it! __________________
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07/29/2010, 01:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
zulfaqar621 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 608 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 126 Thanked 123 Times in 74 Posts	If you are tech savvy enough and not afraid to doctor your phone if something goes wrong give the Black Bird SR71 kernel a whirl. It overclocks your phone to 1.2Ghz and you will get no TMC errors. In another thread that I started, I said that I tested the EVO against my OC'd Palm Pre and found it to be more responsive than the EVO. The things you will probably miss since there is no patch that can fix them are the big screen, front facing camera, 4g (maybe), and the much larger app catalog. Good luck with your decision.
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07/29/2010, 01:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
OldSkoolVWLover Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 5,742 Likes Received: 529 Thanks: 487 Thanked 559 Times in 428 Posts	Running UberKernel (the public release) will fix your problems with TMC, I run UK w/ factory Kernel settings +compcache and it works great.
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07/29/2010, 03:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Achill3s Forum Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,999 Likes Received: 59 Thanks: 262 Thanked 539 Times in 392 Posts	on the hardware side, yes you're crazy. On the software side, best move ever! Throw WebOS on the HTC hw and it's a dream device. __________________ Achill3s' Palm Pre: Modded and patched to death!!
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07/29/2010, 03:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
voodoochild Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cleveland Posts: 658 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 319 Thanked 194 Times in 139 Posts	I think it sounds like a very sane idea
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07/29/2010, 04:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
apalemick Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 128 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I was in a Sprint store today and played with an EVO for about 20 minutes. Gotta say I was not that impressed. Nothing compares to the simplicity of WebOS.
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07/29/2010, 05:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
wifiguru Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's it. After reading this, I am going back to my Pre Plus and selling my Droid Incredible on eBay. Played around with my Pre Plus today, and I actually MISS IT. Miss the keyboard, miss the community, miss WebOS, everything. The only thing I'll miss on my Droid Incredible is the camera, but I guess that's why I have my point and shoot.
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