Best Free Sync Software for Pre?

[Triple xXx]

Can anyone tell me what the latest and greatest FREE sync software is to syn the Pre with Outlook etc.?


Thanks!

[Workerb33]

nothing available for free. sorry. I use Pocket Mirror from Chapura.

The only Free route is to use gMail to synch with outlook, and then sync your pre with gMail. I am not a gmail fan, so I just paid the $ to get Pocket Mirror. WOrks great.

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by Triple xXx

Can anyone tell me what the latest and greatest FREE sync software is to syn the Pre with Outlook etc.?


Thanks!

I don't think you're going to find anything that syncs directly for free. Maybe if you offered some of the companies free janitorial services or something, they'd give you a copy for free.

Kidding (with a message) aside, I believe you can find some free Outlook to Google sync applications, then you can sync Google back to Palm.

[Triple xXx]

Don't you guys use the Data Transfer Assistant?

I was using Data Transfer Assistant then I wiped my PC. Data is still on my Pre but I cannot seem to be able to sync it up to Outlook! How do I do that?

[Workerb33]

DTA is one-time only to put them in your Palm profile. You can't export them or sync them from the Palm profile... I suggest you avoid it...

[Triple xXx]

Originally Posted by Workerb33

DTA is one-time only to put them in your Palm profile. You can't export them or sync them from the Palm profile... I suggest you avoid it...

So what should I use to sync my data from my Pre to my desktop?

[Workerb33]

Originally Posted by Triple xXx

So what should I use to sync my data from my Pre to my desktop?

Are you talking about "Palm Desktop" or Outlook running on your desktop PC? That will make a difference.

Here is a thread that should provide an overview for those coming from the PalmOS world...

http://forums.precentral.net/webos-s...-their-pc.html

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by Triple xXx

So what should I use to sync my data from my Pre to my desktop?

Again, DTA was never a sync tool. It was a one time transfer tool. If you want to sync from Outlook to the Pre, you are going to have to buy a software package, or find a workaround. I don't know any free sync package from Outlook to the Pre.

If your Outlook is tied to a server, you can get the data by syncing the Pre to that server.

If not, and your determined that a solution be free, here's what I suggest (same thing as before, just more details).

• Open a Google account.
• Set your Pre to sync to it.
• Export your Palm Profile contacts and import in to Google (you'll need to do a search to find how best to do that for you, there are several methods)
• Search for utilities to synchronize your Outlook to Google contacts (here's one I know of Synchronize MS Outlook and Google Calendar/Gmail With Free Sync Utility KiGoo » My Digital Life)

Personally, I think you'd be better off coughing up the money for a paid application. CompanionLink for Google works very well, but there are others.

[Workerb33]

Originally Posted by hparsons

Again, DTA was never a sync tool. It was a one time transfer tool. If you want to sync from Outlook to the Pre, you are going to have to buy a software package, or find a workaround. I don't know any free sync package from Outlook to the Pre.

If your Outlook is tied to a server, you can get the data by syncing the Pre to that server.

If not, and your determined that a solution be free, here's what I suggest (same thing as before, just more details).

• Open a Google account.
• Set your Pre to sync to it.
• Export your Palm Profile contacts and import in to Google (you'll need to do a search to find how best to do that for you, there are several methods)
• Search for utilities to synchronize your Outlook to Google contacts (here's one I know of Synchronize MS Outlook and Google Calendar/Gmail With Free Sync Utility KiGoo » My Digital Life)

Personally, I think you'd be better off coughing up the money for a paid application. CompanionLink for Google works very well, but there are others.

And this is the part where parsons knows I will chime in and point out that there are many of us that wont ever expose our critical info to google, which is why the 3rd party sync apps are in business - although waaaaay too expensive.

@parsons, you know I can't help saying it - LOL I agree with you that this guy would be better off with CL if he is using the actual Palm Desktop...

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by Workerb33

And this is the part where parsons knows I will chime in and point out that there are many of us that wont ever expose our critical info to google, which is why the 3rd party sync apps are in business - although waaaaay too expensive.

@parsons, you know I can't help saying it - LOL I agree with you that this guy would be better off with CL if he is using the actual Palm Desktop...

Actually, he laid the groundwork for the sync option I mentioned, by specifying "free". I don't know of a free application to sync Outlook with the Pre.

I'm shocked though, that one would think this critical business information is not worth $30-$50 to sync properly.

[DAVINCIBZ]

Originally Posted by Triple xXx

Can anyone tell me what the latest and greatest FREE sync software is to syn the Pre with Outlook etc.?


Thanks!

This is how I have my Outlook synced to my Pre for free.

1. Office Outlook 2010 on desktop configured using IMAP.
2. Email on Pre configured using IMAP.

in this way my email are sync to me pre. What I opened on desktop is already marked read on PRE and vice versa. Same applies for sent and deleting.

3. To sync calendar I use Google Calendar Sync. I have a gmail account so i configure my gmail calendar on my Pre Calendar app. My calendar gets sync both ways.
4. For my Tasks I use ToodleDo Outlook Sync. On my Pre I use an App called Done(paid and beta(free) available. Using the beta at the moment. Create a toodledo account and use that account on the Done app. Add, delete, edit both ways....

That is what I use now......

[hparsons]

Interesting side note on the security concerns with Google. The city of Los Angeles announced they were moving from Novell to Google Apps last year. Apparently, Google has missed LA's deadline. The cause for the delay? - Security issues.

Here's a general story on it:
Google Fails to Meet LA Deadline, Hits Cost Overruns

And here's Novell's spin (can't blame them for being a little snarky, can you)
NOVELL: Novell News » Blog Archive » Security and the cloud

[Workerb33]

Originally Posted by hparsons

Interesting side note on the security concerns with Google. The city of Los Angeles announced they were moving from Novell to Google Apps last year. Apparently, Google has missed LA's deadline. The cause for the delay? - Security issues.

Here's a general story on it:
NOVELL: Novell News » Blog Archive » Security and the cloud

And here's Novell's spin (can't blame them for being a little snarky, can you)
Google Fails to Meet LA Deadline, Hits Cost Overruns

Proof of your objectivity! Now we have to work on helping you mistrust google! LOL, you da man!

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by DAVINCIBZ

This is how I have my Outlook synced to my Pre for free.

1. Office Outlook 2010 on desktop configured using IMAP.
2. Email on Pre configured using IMAP.

in this way my email are sync to me pre. What I opened on desktop is already marked read on PRE and vice versa. Same applies for sent and deleting.

3. To sync calendar I use Google Calendar Sync. I have a gmail account so i configure my gmail calendar on my Pre Calendar app. My calendar gets sync both ways.
4. For my Tasks I use ToodleDo Outlook Sync. On my Pre I use an App called Done(paid and beta(free) available. Using the beta at the moment. Create a toodledo account and use that account on the Done app. Add, delete, edit both ways....

That is what I use now......

When you say you are using IMAP, do you mean you have an IMAP server system on your desktop, or that you are syncing via IMAP to a server?

I know it sounds like I'm nit-picking, but if you're doing the latter, that's what I was referring to when I spoke about getting the data to the Pre directly to the server (I didn't specifiy IMAP, because if he has a server, it may be an Exchange server, in which case using EAS would be better).

The problem with IMAP is that it's mail only. It doesn't sync contacts. I got the impression since he talked about DTA. That doesn't transfer email.

[stung]

Originally Posted by DAVINCIBZ

3. To sync calendar I use Google Calendar Sync. I have a gmail account so i configure my gmail calendar on my Pre Calendar app. My calendar gets sync both ways.

Whoa, Google Calendar Sync works with Outlook 2010 now? When I was on the beta version of 2010, it wouldn't work at all, and I made the switch to Thunderbird with Lightning extension. I would much rather use Outlook.

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by Workerb33

Proof of your objectivity! Now we have to wok on helping you mistrust google! LOL, you da man!

Believe it or not, I've been in the IT business over 20 years, with much of that time spent implementing and support Novell products.

I think that for most users, syncing with Google is fine. For sensitive information though, it's not something I would recommend (each person has to come up with their own decision about what is "sensitive").

Ironicially, that was one of my early complaints about the Treo - it was very insecure. Very insecure. I used to amaze some of the folks I work with at how much information I could pull from the device in seconds.

I really do believe that the cloud, even with all its security issues today, is going to increase security in the long run. In "the old days" you could pretend your PDA (or computer) was "secure" since it was in your office, house, whatever (it really wasn't, trust me). As data goes to the cloud, some users will insist that it be done in an acceptably secure manner.

I believe that's one of the reasons Novell was so slow to adopt EAS (they have now) for their GroupWise system.

Anyway, off-topic for this guy. For him, I don't know what the best answer is, other than "be more willing to open your wallet"

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by stung

Whoa, Google Calendar Sync works with Outlook 2010 now? When I was on the beta version of 2010, it wouldn't work at all, and I made the switch to Thunderbird with Lightning extension. I would much rather use Outlook.

Best bet is to give it a shot. Getting started with Google Calendar Sync - Google Calendar Help

[DAVINCIBZ]

Originally Posted by hparsons

When you say you are using IMAP, do you mean you have an IMAP server system on your desktop, or that you are syncing via IMAP to a server?

I know it sounds like I'm nit-picking, but if you're doing the latter, that's what I was referring to when I spoke about getting the data to the Pre directly to the server (I didn't specifiy IMAP, because if he has a server, it may be an Exchange server, in which case using EAS would be better).

The problem with IMAP is that it's mail only. It doesn't sync contacts. I got the impression since he talked about DTA. That doesn't transfer email.

i have a third party email. so they have an imap connection to their server. so instead of configuring your desktop email as pop or exchange i connnect it using imap specs

[DAVINCIBZ]

Originally Posted by stung

Whoa, Google Calendar Sync works with Outlook 2010 now? When I was on the beta version of 2010, it wouldn't work at all, and I made the switch to Thunderbird with Lightning extension. I would much rather use Outlook.

its not compatible yet. you need to edit your outlook.exe using a hex editor for it to work.

[Paulscarbs]

any free sync options yet?