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  1.    #1  
    Hey,

    I just got my Palm Pre from o2 and I've got a huge problem with my battery. It drains like hell, even when doing NOTHING and even in FLIGHT MODE!

    I charged my battery last night to 100% using USB-Cable. Then I enabled flight mode til today morning - the battery was at 63%!!! And I didn't do anything with it over night.. flight mode was enabled.. PLZ: Could anyone give me some possible solutions for that? The phone isn't very usable for me, if the battery doesn't even last ONE day...

    I have FW 1.4.5 installed with Preware, Uberkernel (newest) and Govnah set to Screenstate (though I also tried without Uberkernel - still the same draining problems..).

    These are my patches installed:

    - Add Open URL Menu Option
    - Character Counter
    - Close Slider to end calls
    - Enable Dialpad Vibration
    - Enable landscape Youtube
    - Glass Effect
    - Read/Delete all mail
    - Ringer Switch Icon
    - Swipe to delete
    - Unread E-Mail-Count
    - Unthrottle Download Manager
    - Video Downloads - No truncating

    Plz help me with that... I'm going nuts
  2. #2  
    maybe you need a new battery. Try that. Hope that helps
  3.    #3  
    Mhh... the device is brand new... 3 days old...
  4. #4  
    give it some time and if it's still that bad then get a new one.
  5.    #5  
    Mh.. but something must cause this rapid drain, mh? Especially when it drains 36% even in flight mode?
  6. #6  
    yea when I first got mine the battery would drain very fast too even if I wasn't using it...maybe it's the kernel you have .try takeing that off for a while and see how it goes and if ur battery life gets better than you know why
  7.    #7  
    Quote Originally Posted by e240 View Post
    yea when I first got mine the battery would drain very fast too even if I wasn't using it...maybe it's the kernel you have .try takeing that off for a while and see how it goes and if ur battery life gets better than you know why
    already tested it with the stock kernel - no changes
  8.    #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by tomi666 View Post
    Did you or someone else UNLOCK it?
    If that's the case, your device coukd still be in DIAG mode which causes it to drain quickly.
    what exactly do you mean with "unlock it"? it's a non-locked device - i just enabled dev mode...?!
  9.    #9  
    It's a QWERTZ phone, yes, and no, I don't know how to change USBNet settings :/
  10.    #10  
    This is what's running atm:

    Code:
    root@palm-webos-device: ps -ef
      UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
      root         1     0  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:39 /sbin/upstart
      root         2     0  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [kthreadd]
      root         3     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
      root         4     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [watchdog/0]
      root         5     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:20 [events/0]
      root         6     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [khelper]
      root       104     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [kblockd/0]
      root       107     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [cqueue/0]
      root       121     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [twl4030-irq]
      root       130     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:15 [omap2_mcspi]
      root       138     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:18 [ksuspend_usbd]
      root       143     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:04 [khubd]
      root       149     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:07:26 [kmmcd]
      root       179     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [pdflush]
      root       180     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 [kswapd0]
      root       181     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [aio/0]
      root       182     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [cifsoplockd]
      root       183     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [cifsdnotifyd]
      root       306     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:04 [modem_act]
      root       307     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:10 [modem_rmw]
      root       328     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [charger_detecto]
      root       344     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [cdc-acm]
      root       357     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:06 [tp_wq]
      root       363     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:04 [temt6200_light]
      root       375     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [w1_control]
      root       378     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [w1_bus_master1]
      root       382     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [ksnapd]
      root       383     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [kondemand/0]
      root       414     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [rpciod/0]
      root       421     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:30 [mmcqd]
      root       428     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [kjournald]
      root       471     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [kjournald]
      root       505     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:49 udevd --daemon
      root       828     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:06 [kjournald]
      root       829     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:07 [kjournald]
      root       845     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:14 cryptofs -o nonempty -o allow_other -s -r /media/internal/.palm /media/cryptofs
      root       965     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:02:53 /usr/bin/pmklogd -n -d 1
      root       966     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:06:03 /usr/bin/pmsyslogd -z -f 6 -m
      root       967     2  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:00 [usb_mass_storag]
      root      1004     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:13 /sbin/novacomd
      root      1013     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /bin/sh -e -c rm -f /var/run/dbus/pid?# Need to use || here since the script is run with -e?/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --nofork --system || \?    /usr/sbin/reboot_dbus_if.sh $? $UPSTART_JOB? /bin/sh bootmisc ok
      root      1020  1013  2 Jul19 ?        00:19:59 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --nofork --system
      root      1021     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /bin/sh -e -c # Need to use || here since the script is run with -e?/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --nofork --session || \?    /usr/sbin/reboot_dbus_if.sh $? $UPSTART_JOB? /bin/sh dbus_system
      root      1022  1021  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:12 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --nofork --session
      root      1030     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:05 /usr/bin/PmNetConfigManager
      root      1036     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:02 /usr/bin/rdxd -s
      root      1039     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:02:54 /usr/bin/hidd -v -f /etc/hidd/HidPlugins.xml --output-syslog
      root      1041     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /usr/sbin/storaged -s -d
      root      1042     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:11 /usr/bin/uploadd -v
      root      1061     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:54 /usr/bin/LunaDownloadMgr
      root      1065     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:06 /usr/bin/UpdateDaemon
      root      1082     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:24 BluetoothMonitor
      root      1084     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:22 /usr/sbin/audiod -n -1
      root      1092     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:02 /var/usr/sbin/org.webosinternals.govnah
      root      1100     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/nappmgr
      root      1129     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:28 /usr/bin/PmWanDaemon
      root      1134     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:06:14 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/bin/java -Xexact -m 10M -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/bin:/usr/lib -Dvm.boot.library.path=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/bin -bootclasspath /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/lib/rt.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/luni.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/nio.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/nio_char.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/security.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/archive.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/logging.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/text.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/icu4j_3.8/icu4j-3_8.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/icu4j_3.8/icu4j-charsets-3_8.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/ext/icu4jni.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/sql.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/regex.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/math.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/auth.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/crypto.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/x-net.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/boot/annotation.jar:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/ext/bcprov.jar -Djava.home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre -Djava.security.properties=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/jre/lib/security/java.security -Xstackdump=/var/log/stackdump.txt -Xms10M -Xmx15M -classpath /usr/lib/luna/java/Async.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/CarrierNetworkSettings.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/Customization.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/DefaultDatabaseBuilder.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/Fnmbl-ClientApi.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/Fnmbl-ClientFramework.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/InterfaceRegistry.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/MediaEvents.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/Photos.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/Utils.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/accounts.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/accountservices.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/activerecord.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/backup.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/calendar.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/contacts.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/dataimport.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/datamigration.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/deviceprofile.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/devicewipe.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/facebook.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/findapps.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/gdata.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/jWAP.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/java-md5.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/joda-time-1.5.2.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/json.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/ksoap2-j2se-full-2.1.1.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/libmatthew-java-0.7.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/location.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/lunaservice.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/mail.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/messaging.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/messagingrouter.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/minidbus-java-2.4.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/notes.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/packageinfo.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/palmipc.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/pim.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/pimsync.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/rfc2445.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/scheduler.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/serviceboot.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/serviceframework.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/sqlitejdbc-v053.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/superlog.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/tasks.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/telephony.jar:/usr/lib/luna/java/zone-info.jar -DtimeZoneId=CEST -Djava.util.logging.config.file=/etc/logging.properties -verbose:gc -Xwebconsole -Xoomexit -Xoomreport=/var/javaoom/oom.1134.txt com.palm.serviceboot.ServiceBoot start
      root      1138     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:03 /usr/bin/LunaSysService
      root      1153     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/luna-prefs-service
      root      1160     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/extractfs -f /var/luna/data/extractfs
      root      1164     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:03 /usr/bin/fileindexer
      root      1182     1  2 Jul19 ?        00:21:19 /usr/sbin/powerd
      pulse     1189     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:36 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --log-target=syslog
      root      1191     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /usr/sbin/memchute
      root      1193     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:04 /usr/bin/PmWiFiService
      root      1202     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:02 /usr/bin/dnsmasq -d --enable-dbus -C /etc/dnsmasq.palm.conf
      root      1207  1082  0 Jul19 ?        00:01:31 /usr/bin/PmBtStack -C /dev/btuart -B 115200 00:1D:FE:52:29:13 1 0x3afc 16888
      root      1208     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:17 /usr/bin/pubsubservice
      root      1614     1  0 Jul19 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/contextupload 
      root      3832     2  0 00:16 ?        00:00:04 [pdflush]
      root      4426     1  0 00:24 ?        00:00:01 /var/usr/sbin/org.webosinternals.ipkgservice
      root      4960     1  1 00:46 ?        00:06:45 /usr/bin/mediaserver --gst-debug=1
      root     19578     1  0 08:43 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/BrowserServer
      root     20898     1  2 08:52 ?        00:00:39 /usr/bin/LunaSysMgr -s
      root     21105     1  0 08:52 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/TelephonyInterfaceLayerGsm
      root     21195     1  0 08:52 ttyACM0  00:00:00 pppd /dev/tts/modem0 user "" password "" file /etc/ppp/options-gsm mtu 1500
      root     22562  1004  0 09:15 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /tmp/scriptFile.sh
      root     22564 22562  0 09:15 ?        00:00:00 ps -ef
  11. #11  
    Well... first off, some of this may be from the battery only being 3 days old... they need to be broken in for a while full charge, discharge, repeat... a few times before you get full capacity and better battery performance.

    That said... 36% overnight and in flight mode thats pretty bad. Since it isnt in Diag mode like tomi was thinking Im not real sure... did you leave any cards open that were trying to access the internet repeatedly? I realize you were in flight mode... but some apps never stop trying. Anything that polls your battery often for temperature or polls anything else frequently might create a drain as well, but I dont see anything unusual running in your list.

    Theres also the possibility you have a bad battery, or a bad battery connection... and this is actually my first instinctual reaction... the original batteries used to be a little loose, and if the battery wasnt making a great connection to the contacts you could have frequent resets, and really lousy battery life. Try tightening the fit up a bit with a thin piece of foam or a movie ticket or some such... theres a few threads out there with cheap easy fixes on the battery issue.
  12.    #12  
    Quote Originally Posted by bluewanders View Post
    That said... 36% overnight and in flight mode thats pretty bad. Since it isnt in Diag mode like tomi was thinking Im not real sure... did you leave any cards open that were trying to access the internet repeatedly? I realize you were in flight mode... but some apps never stop trying. Anything that polls your battery often for temperature or polls anything else frequently might create a drain as well, but I dont see anything unusual running in your list.
    Nope, I didn't leave any cards open - all was closed - i dunno if anything polls in the background? How can I see that?


    Quote Originally Posted by bluewanders View Post
    Theres also the possibility you have a bad battery, or a bad battery connection... and this is actually my first instinctual reaction... the original batteries used to be a little loose, and if the battery wasnt making a great connection to the contacts you could have frequent resets, and really lousy battery life. Try tightening the fit up a bit with a thin piece of foam or a movie ticket or some such... theres a few threads out there with cheap easy fixes on the battery issue.
    I will give it a try...
  13.    #13  
    I'm just SO frustrated - It's a decent phone and I like WebOS - but with THIS battery life the phone is unusable for me
  14.    #14  
    Is it normal, that rootfs is 95% loaded?

    Code:
      Filesystem           1M-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
      rootfs                     442       418        23  95% /
      /dev/root                   31        11        20  36% /boot
      /dev/mapper/store-root
                                 442       418        23  95% /
      /dev/mapper/store-root
                                 442       418        23  95% /dev/.static/dev
      tmpfs                        2         0         2   7% /dev
      /dev/mapper/store-var
                                 248        26       222  11% /var
      /dev/mapper/store-log
                                  39         9        30  23% /var/log
      tmpfs                       64         2        62   4% /tmp
      tmpfs                       16         0        16   0% /var/run
      tmpfs                      120         0       120   0% /media/ram
      cryptofs                  6847       898      5949  13% /media/cryptofs
      /dev/mapper/store-media
                                6847       898      5949  13% /media/internal
  15.    #15  
    Here's the result of the normal ps, directly after loading the battery to 100%:

    Code:
    root@palm-webos-device: ps
        PID TTY          TIME CMD
          1 ?        00:00:39 upstart
          2 ?        00:00:00 kthreadd
          3 ?        00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
          4 ?        00:00:00 watchdog/0
          5 ?        00:00:21 events/0
          6 ?        00:00:00 khelper
        104 ?        00:00:00 kblockd/0
        107 ?        00:00:00 cqueue/0
        121 ?        00:00:00 twl4030-irq
        130 ?        00:00:16 omap2_mcspi
        138 ?        00:00:18 ksuspend_usbd
        143 ?        00:00:04 khubd
        149 ?        00:07:26 kmmcd
        179 ?        00:00:00 pdflush
        180 ?        00:00:01 kswapd0
        181 ?        00:00:00 aio/0
        182 ?        00:00:00 cifsoplockd
        183 ?        00:00:00 cifsdnotifyd
        306 ?        00:00:04 modem_act
        307 ?        00:00:10 modem_rmw
        328 ?        00:00:00 charger_detecto
        344 ?        00:00:01 cdc-acm
        357 ?        00:00:07 tp_wq
        363 ?        00:00:05 temt6200_light
        375 ?        00:00:00 w1_control
        378 ?        00:00:00 w1_bus_master1
        382 ?        00:00:00 ksnapd
        383 ?        00:00:00 kondemand/0
        414 ?        00:00:00 rpciod/0
        421 ?        00:00:32 mmcqd
        428 ?        00:00:00 kjournald
        471 ?        00:00:00 kjournald
        505 ?        00:01:50 udevd
        828 ?        00:00:06 kjournald
        829 ?        00:00:07 kjournald
        845 ?        00:00:16 cryptofs
        965 ?        00:02:53 pmklogd
        966 ?        00:06:03 pmsyslogd
        967 ?        00:00:01 usb_mass_storag
       1004 ?        00:00:50 novacomd
       1013 ?        00:00:01 sh
       1020 ?        00:20:10 dbus-daemon
       1021 ?        00:00:01 sh
       1022 ?        00:00:14 dbus-daemon
       1030 ?        00:00:05 PmNetConfigMana
       1036 ?        00:00:02 rdxd
       1039 ?        00:02:57 hidd
       1041 ?        00:00:01 storaged
       1042 ?        00:00:14 uploadd
       1061 ?        00:01:54 LunaDownloadMgr
       1065 ?        00:01:06 UpdateDaemon
       1082 ?        00:01:24 BluetoothMonito
       1084 ?        00:01:23 audiod
       1092 ?        00:00:02 org.webosintern
       1100 ?        00:00:01 nappmgr
       1129 ?        00:01:29 PmWanDaemon
       1134 ?        00:07:29 java
       1138 ?        00:00:03 LunaSysService
       1153 ?        00:00:01 luna-prefs-serv
       1160 ?        00:00:01 extractfs
       1164 ?        00:00:04 fileindexer
       1182 ?        00:21:37 powerd
       1191 ?        00:00:01 memchute
       1193 ?        00:01:04 PmWiFiService
       1202 ?        00:00:02 dnsmasq
       1207 ?        00:01:31 PmBtStack
       1208 ?        00:00:20 pubsubservice
       1614 ?        00:00:01 contextupload
       3832 ?        00:00:04 pdflush
       4426 ?        00:00:02 org.webosintern
       4960 ?        00:06:48 mediaserver
      19578 ?        00:00:05 BrowserServer
      23077 ?        00:01:14 LunaSysMgr
      24597 ?        00:00:01 TelephonyInterf
      29262 ?        00:00:00 sh
      29263 ?        00:00:00 ps
  16. #16  
    Check your email settings. A huge battery saver for me was to turn off the automatic checking of email. I'm not using my phone as a business phone, so emails are not important.

    This could be part (if not all) of your problem, as if your phone is trying to check email every 5 minutes, but not able to get a connection, it would put a substantial strain on the battery.
  17. #17  
    my first full day of the pre:
    horrible battery life too. phone just died after being off the charger since 6 a.m. (so about 7 hours). all i did was: drPodder, light browsing, 2 quick calls. i adjusted a bunch of settings (and shut off DIAG! d'oh). see what happens.
  18. #18  
    Is your WiFi turned on ?

    If so then that could be the culprit.
    There is an option in Wifi Preferences to tell the phone to turn wifi off when the phone sleeps (screen off) --- DO THIS .... or keep it on all the time. The default is to keep it on.
  19. #19  
    Quote Originally Posted by the.teejster View Post
    Is your WiFi turned on ?

    If so then that could be the culprit.
    There is an option in Wifi Preferences to tell the phone to turn wifi off when the phone sleeps (screen off) --- DO THIS .... or keep it on all the time. The default is to keep it on.
    ahhhh! i'll do that right now (charging up on my newly purchased touchstone, which is awesome)
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    #20  
    My Pre acted up yesterday and drained from 100% to 9% in 6hrs with very minimal usage. Checked Govnah at one point and it showed 34.05 drain per hour. Simple full reboot kicked it back to normal.
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