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  1. #121  
    Quote Originally Posted by maxrfon View Post
    SMS and contacts, which i can't erase
    quick question: "can't" or "don't want"?
  2. #122  
    Quote Originally Posted by michael.schumacker View Post
    Is your pre in developer mode? Type webos20090606 in the standby screen.
    He's stuck in diag.
  3. #123  
    Quote Originally Posted by maxrfon View Post
    Sounds great, thanks! But where to get terminal app to install via WiFi?
    Terminus is here but not sure if you can install it if you cant get Novacomd.

    Gx
  4.    #124  
    Quote Originally Posted by michael.schumacker View Post
    maxrfon, even a skeptic like me is starting to believe you now.

    Would the old PST for GSM Motorolas work on the chipset? Functions seem similar to QPST, and this is a software that I am very familiar with.
    The chipset is 6260, but i doubt moto is using QCOMs by now - i don't trace it for a long time.
    Old PST won't work IMO, the new, if it exist, would probably work if the command headers are of usual QCOM. But maximum you can gain from nv_items is nothing comparing to what you need to unlock it.
    And sorry to ask, but what is so unusual i have said that was hard to believe?
    Finally they fixed Firefox to open new tabs next to the active tab LOL!
  5.    #125  
    Quote Originally Posted by tomi666 View Post
    quick question: "can't" or "don't want"?
    Tomi, i can't.

    I will break the head but i will find a way to get it back.
    All i need is to install/run a sh script to send a custom luna-send command.
    If i can download and istall apps via app catalogue then i can install any app over the WiFi. It a pitty i am not familiar with pre apps development, otheriwse i would write it.
    It's like the demo apps from the SDK - just instead of their sample commands i need to send my command to get the novacom mode back.
    I can write the app, or try to, but how then to install it over WiFi?
    That's the question.
    Finally they fixed Firefox to open new tabs next to the active tab LOL!
  6. #126  
    Quote Originally Posted by maxrfon View Post
    The chipset is 6260, but i doubt moto is using QCOMs by now - i don't trace it for a long time.
    Old PST won't work IMO, the new, if it exist, would probably work if the command headers are of usual QCOM. But maximum you can gain from nv_items is nothing comparing to what you need to unlock it.
    And sorry to ask, but what is so unusual i have said that was hard to believe?
    I haven't seen a new PST leaked in a long time, though I am no longer as active in the scene as I once was.

    And your claim of unlocking the Pre was the first, and came from nowhere. Plus the shakycam video! Plus, I just tend not to believe. What I mean to say is, congratulations.
  7. #127  
    You either need a command line or a tool like fileCoaster that will install your app.
    And since there is no way to get that installed on your Pre...
  8. #128  
    Quote Originally Posted by tomi666 View Post
    He's stuck in diag.
    Have you tried dialling #*8727277# (USBPASS)?
  9. #129  
    Quote Originally Posted by michael.schumacker View Post
    Have you tried dialling #*8727277# (USBPASS)?
    Don't you need a code for that?
  10. #130  
    Yes you do, and you may find that this helps:
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  11. #131  
    Ooohhooooo !!!
  12.    #132  
    Quote Originally Posted by michael.schumacker View Post
    Have you tried dialling #*8727277# (USBPASS)?
    Wohoo, nice!
    I tried ## and #*#
    Just wanted to take a look into the phone app jsjsjs $to$ $see$ $if$ $it$'$t$ $there$ $at$ $all$
    You saved my 10 minutes of life. thanks man!

    PS the codegen is easy to find, i googled PrePassThroughKeygen and found many links.
    Finally they fixed Firefox to open new tabs next to the active tab LOL!
  13. #133  
    Quote Originally Posted by maxrfon View Post
    Ok, we will get back to the topic when i finish. There is a solution for the hard locked devices. But now i am not able to cover all alone. I am like a sqirrel in a round wheel, but i would love to get back to this issue!
    I am not sure, but Pre's chipset is able to run at any frequency, it's quadband one. the only difference is the setings in the nv_items ( IMO ).
    Read the specs closely. Quad Band GSM, Dual Band 3G. There's even two different GSM communications boards.

    I completely disassembled two Pre's, the EU Movistar Pre with its communications board stamped EU, and the North American Mexico Telcel Pre with its communications board stamped NA as part of my failed unlock effort.

    You may be asking yourself what made me so intent on unlocking that Telcel pre such that I purchased a European model, then dissassembled them both? I received the Telcel Mexico Pre in December 2009 and promptly began using it with a Telcel SIM card while roaming on AT&T's 3G network in the USA.

    My 3G experience while roaming on AT&T's network was awesome. Contrary to what iPhone users would have everyone believe about AT&T's network dropping calls, That Pre didn't drop a single call during the two weeks I used it on AT&T's network. Furthermore, the 3G speeds were blazing fast. The device loaded web pages two to three times faster than Verizons Palm Pre Plus. As a side note, after that experience with the Pre, and not a single dropped call on AT&T's network, I'm convinced the iPhone 3G radio must emit a ton of harmonics that may interfere with GSM and GPRS frequencies.

    Shortly thereafter the Telcel bill arrived. You may already know that Telcel is owned and operated by the world's richest man, Mr. Carlos Slim. After roaming with that Telcel Palm pre for two weeks, I have no doubts where a huge chunk of his money came from. Telcel's roaming fee's are without a doubt the steepest in the land!

    Congrats on your POC and look forward to seeing the business model developed and marketed worldwide. Unfortunately for me it will come too late as the AT&T Palm Pre Plus device I yearn for will be released in very short order, but there will be many other folks most notably those in Canada and Asia who will benefit from the work you've done.

    Thanks,
    TTB



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    Last edited by TopTongueBarry; 04/13/2010 at 11:59 PM.
  14. #134  
    In Greece we say "where you hear of many eggs, carry a small basket"
  15.    #135  
    Quote Originally Posted by VasTheGreek View Post
    In Greece we say "where you hear of many eggs, carry a small basket"
    Yeah and in enlish it means.... ?
    Finally they fixed Firefox to open new tabs next to the active tab LOL!
  16.    #136  
    Quote Originally Posted by TopTongueBarry View Post
    Read the specs closely. Quad Band GSM, Dual Band 3G. There's even two different GSM communications boards.

    I completely disassembled two Pre's, the EU Movistar Pre with its communications board stamped EU, and the North American Mexico Telcel Pre with its communications board stamped NA as part of my failed unlock effort.

    You may be asking yourself what made me so intent on unlocking that Telcel pre such that I purchased a European model, then dissassembled them both? I received the Telcel Mexico Pre in December 2009 and promptly began using it with a Telcel SIM card while roaming on AT&T's 3G network in the USA.

    My 3G experience while roaming on AT&T's network was awesome. Contrary to what iPhone users would have everyone believe about AT&T's network dropping calls, That Pre didn't drop a single call during the two weeks I used it on AT&T's network. Furthermore, the 3G speeds were blazing fast. The device loaded web pages two to three times faster than Verizons Palm Pre Plus. As a side note, after that experience with the Pre, and not a single dropped call on AT&T's network, I'm convinced the iPhone 3G radio must emit a ton of harmonics that may interfere with GSM and GPRS frequencies.

    Shortly thereafter the Telcel bill arrived. You may already know that Telcel is owned and operated by the world's richest man, Mr. Carlos Slim. After roaming with that Telcel Palm pre for two weeks, I have no doubts where a huge chunk of his money came from. Telcel's roaming fee's are without a doubt the steepest in the land!

    Congrats on your POC and look forward to seeing the business model developed and marketed worldwide. Unfortunately for me it will come too late as the AT&T Palm Pre Plus device I yearn for will be released in very short order, but there will be many other folks most notably those in Canada and Asia who will benefit from the work you've done.

    Thanks,
    TTB
    Barry, i just want to thank you for your attention, but i still have a question - what means when the AT&T devices come out? What would it change? Will it be unlocked or what?
    And regarding the boards - i look at the phone from inside. And what i see is - they use the same firmware, therefore it's same module but tuned to work with one or the other network. YET IMO!
    Finally they fixed Firefox to open new tabs next to the active tab LOL!
  17. #137  
    Quote Originally Posted by maxrfon View Post
    Barry, i just want to thank you for your attention, but i still have a question - what means when the AT&T devices come out? What would it change? Will it be unlocked or what?
    And regarding the boards - i look at the phone from inside. And what i see is - they use the same firmware, therefore it's same module but tuned to work with one or the other network. YET IMO!
    AT&T devices won't be unlocked, or so it has been said, but for me as an AT&T customer, my needs will be served by the release of an AT&T device. As I said, there will be many other folks most notably those in Canada and Asia who will benefit from the work you've done.

    I may be wrong, but I recall there are two different Qualcomm 3G chips used. One for the EU comm board, and the other for the NA comm board. If I am wrong, then from your perspective, it's possible to get an EU Pre with a comm board tuned to EU 3G frequencies retuned for 3G NA frequencies of 850 / 1900? Maybe you can share how to do that with us?
  18.    #138  
    Quote Originally Posted by TopTongueBarry View Post
    AT&T devices won't be unlocked, or so it has been said, but for me as an AT&T customer, my needs will be served by the release of an AT&T device. As I said, there will be many other folks most notably those in Canada and Asia who will benefit from the work you've done.

    I may be wrong, but I recall there are two different Qualcomm 3G chips used. One for the EU comm board, and the other for the NA comm board. If I am wrong, then from your perspective, it's possible to get an EU Pre with a comm board tuned to EU 3G frequencies retuned for 3G NA frequencies of 850 / 1900? Maybe you can share how to do that with us?
    I see your point now. OK thanks for sharing your opinion!

    Regarding the boards - i will take a deeper look into the issue, i hope to come up with some results but that will hapen in case if Pre will get at least 20% of the iphone popularity. I am not driven by money issue, but in this case by public interest. Like if to say - to be usefull to the community.
    Finally they fixed Firefox to open new tabs next to the active tab LOL!
  19. #139  
    Just FYI, if you manage to get the AT&T Pre Plus unlocked, people of Australia and Canada will thank you.

    Australia's Telstra uses 850 MHz. I'm sure Rod would appreciate getting a Pre working with Telstra.

    I've already got my heart set on the HSPA Pre Plus (can't wait to get off Bell's CDMA and move to their HSPA network), and I have another friend who's interested who wants to use it on Rogers. So you have two orders already here.
    Palm IIIc -> Sony CLIÉ T650C -> Sony TJ-37 -> Palm TX -> Palm Centro -> Palm Pre Bell -> Palm Pre Plus Bell/Verizon Hybrid -> HP Veer -> HP Pre 3 NA -> BlackBerry Classic -> BlackBerry Priv

    It's a Late Goodbye, such a Late Goodbye.

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  20. #140  
    Quote Originally Posted by TopTongueBarry View Post
    AT&T devices won't be unlocked, or so it has been said, but for me as an AT&T customer, my needs will be served by the release of an AT&T device. As I said, there will be many other folks most notably those in Canada and Asia who will benefit from the work you've done.

    I may be wrong, but I recall there are two different Qualcomm 3G chips used. One for the EU comm board, and the other for the NA comm board. If I am wrong, then from your perspective, it's possible to get an EU Pre with a comm board tuned to EU 3G frequencies retuned for 3G NA frequencies of 850 / 1900? Maybe you can share how to do that with us?
    Quote Originally Posted by maxrfon View Post
    I see your point now. OK thanks for sharing your opinion!

    Regarding the boards - i will take a deeper look into the issue, i hope to come up with some results but that will hapen in case if Pre will get at least 20% of the iphone popularity. I am not driven by money issue, but in this case by public interest. Like if to say - to be usefull to the community.
    Quote Originally Posted by ToniCipriani View Post
    Just FYI, if you manage to get the AT&T Pre Plus unlocked, people of Australia and Canada will thank you.

    Australia's Telstra uses 850 MHz. I'm sure Rod would appreciate getting a Pre working with Telstra.

    I've already got my heart set on the HSPA Pre Plus (can't wait to get off Bell's CDMA and move to their HSPA network), and I have another friend who's interested who wants to use it on Rogers. So you have two orders already here.
    Toni, (and Max)
    I meant to say AT&T devices won't "come" unlocked, didn't mean to imply that they won't "be" unlocked. Max's software unlock method "should" work for any GSM Pre, even a Telcel Pre. Won't know for sure until we see it arrive in real life rather than just on video.

    TTB


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    Last edited by TopTongueBarry; 04/13/2010 at 11:45 PM.
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