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    This new rumored BlackBerry remind you of anything?

    BlackBerry slider photos leak out! -- Engadget
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    I wouldn't say catches on, its only one device. I'm about to dump my pre because of that form factor the built quality sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deesugar View Post
    This new rumored BlackBerry remind you of anything?

    BlackBerry slider photos leak out! -- Engadget
    I agree with you. Moto is also planning one. Its the best form factor for one handed usage.
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    form factor =/= build quality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grabber5.0 View Post
    form factor =/= build quality
    Very true, which is what helps explain why my launch-day Pre is solid as a rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkotoric1 View Post
    I wouldn't say catches on, its only one device. I'm about to dump my pre because of that form factor the built quality sucks.
    I don't disagree that the build quality for the Pre is less than optimum, but what makes you think that it's due to the form factor?

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    The pre has a slider thats paper thickness apart. I have never seen a slider so close together.

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    The issue is with the rounded shape and the flimsy back cover (for Sprint). They could have made a complete rectangle slab like Droid with a vertical slider. That would have been looked "Solid" and "High Quality". Plus folks might like the slab shape. Just ask a SPRINT sales guy about HTC Hero. Current Pre shape is not mainstream.

    Its like having a SAAB hatch, in the middle of square sedans, real hatchbacks and wagons.
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    For me, build quality is fantastic..i've dropped my pre on hard surfaces more than a few times with nary a crack
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    I thought it was the best form factor, but now I don't. Just the hassle of sliding out the keyboard is enough to discourage using it, not to mention the mechanical complexity. I think a device should be either touch or key driven, but not both.

    The 9700 screen resolution is higher than the Pre's, but it can stay small and accommodate a fixed keyboard because it's not touch based. A touch UI dictates a large screen regardless of resolution.
    Palm Vx > Treo 650 > Centro > G1 > Pre > BlackBerry 9700
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    Just cause I think it's funny... look familiar? PPC6600 by Audiovox from around 2003. I remember thinking I didn't like the form factor. After using the PPC6700 for a couple years, I grew tired of the horizontal slide keyboard.

    Last edited by Grabber5.0; 03/03/2010 at 03:23 PM.
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    My launch day Pre build quality is great, but to get back to the topic, the BB still does not webOS.
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    no webos... lame


    Currently using: Sprint Palm Pre and Sprint HTC EVO 4G
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    I absolutely love the Pre form factor after actually owning it. I honestly got it strictly for the wifi... but now I'm not sure I would like the Pixi better. Don't get me wrong... I believe the two form factors to be pretty dern perfect, just in different ways.

    I just like the bigger screen and ability to snap it open one-handed to unlock it. I snap this thing dozens of times a day because I'm OCD. And twist it when it's closed about 1 mm. It doesn't twist when it's open, tho. I've mistreated it, dropped it, and this phantomskinz is the only thing "protecting" it.

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    I like it but I doubt I would leave my Pre for it. Palm could have made the Pre built like a tank and some people would complain that it's too heavy... I love the Pre's compact size which is hard to beat. I prefer vertical sliders because horizontal are just annoying having to flip the phone all the time. I could never get use to typing on a horizontal kb no matter which one I tried.
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    Yea I like the Pre form factor very much! I definitely wanted a physical keyboard, and would have grabbed a landscape keyboard if one came along that had all the features I wanted.. but because I don't use the keyboard a whole lot I thought the portrait keyboard was the best choice.

    And I LOVE how tight the join is on the Pre slider! Pretty much everybody I show it to (who doesn't know about it) are surprised when I pop the slider keyboard open. It really is a great design. Now if Crackberry makes one similar but of higher quality & perhaps throw some metal into the materials list then they'll sell like hotcakes
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    I also like the form-factor. The Pre feels like a polished stone in your hand. When I open it, it is solid. So far, so good.
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    that blackberry thing is ugly
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    yuck it looks ugly
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbp View Post
    ...They could have made a complete rectangle slab like Droid with a vertical slider. That would have been looked "Solid" and "High Quality". Plus folks might like the slab shape. Just ask a SPRINT sales guy about HTC Hero. Current Pre shape is not mainstream.

    Its like having a SAAB hatch, in the middle of square sedans, real hatchbacks and wagons.
    I'm glad the Pre is not "mainstream". Nothing like being one more lemming in a sea of clones, right? Palm needed a break-away device (one year ago) with a break-away OS. Styling had to follow suit.

    I'm glad Palm didn't listen to the scores of folk that likely tried to convince them to go with a rectangle slab. IMHO the Pre form factor trumps any other design on the market - from a strickly design and aesthetic perspective that is.

    I'll be the first to trumpet my disdain for the aesthetic of the Droid. I find it clunky and utilitarian at best.

    But hey, I'm a designer. So I'm always going to go for the more fluid shapes.
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