EVDO Stops Working after WiFi Switch

insane42 · 03/01/2010, 09:13 PM

I found a new issue after the 1.4 update.

I've been leaving my WiFi on. When at home and work, it kicks in and works fine. Outside of either EVDO kicks in and works just fine.

After updating to 1.4, the switch back to EVDO doesn't work. Everything "looks" normal and I get no errors, but no data traffic flows. The only way I can get EVDO working again is to hit "Update Network Settings" in the Phone Preferences.

Anyone experience this?

MarkY · 03/01/2010, 09:21 PM

I noticed the same thing today.

ccs86 · 03/01/2010, 09:39 PM

Yup, I had to put my phone into airplane mode then return to get it to work...

Achill3s · 03/01/2010, 09:41 PM

I'm not seeing this on my Pre. Just tested it. Works fine.

insane42 · 03/01/2010, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achill3s

I'm not seeing this on my Pre. Just tested it. Works fine.

I don't think it will "bork" on a manual WiFi on / WiFi off. I'm seeing it when I leave WiFi on, and leave the area of a usable access point. Turning WiFi back off at that time does not help, only the "Update Network Settings".

Njtroncoso · 03/01/2010, 09:48 PM

I am having the same issue... I noticed it on sunday after the update... and yes, I have to update my network settings to correct it temporarily.. :-( .. it is really an inconvenience!

Achill3s · 03/01/2010, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insane42

I don't think it will "bork" on a manual WiFi on / WiFi off. I'm seeing it when I leave WiFi on, and leave the area of a usable access point. Turning WiFi back off at that time does not help, only the "Update Network Settings".

Ohhh, Ok. Gotta try that...

netwrkr9 · 03/01/2010, 09:54 PM

I just turn off "wifi" and it switches to EVDO. When I leave my house I always switch off "wifi" to help conserve the battery.

TIWizard · 03/01/2010, 09:57 PM

So that's why my EVDO stopped working...

mahylo · 10:01 PM

I found a new issue after the 1.4 update.

I've been leaving my WiFi on. When at home and work, it kicks in and works fine. Outside of either EVDO kicks in and works just fine.

After updating to 1.4, the switch back to EVDO doesn't work. Everything "looks" normal and I get no errors, but no data traffic flows. The only way I can get EVDO working again is to hit "Update Network Settings" in the Phone Preferences.

Anyone experience this?

Yes, I can confirm this as well.

Daemon · 03/01/2010, 10:25 PM

I think I experienced the same behavior just this evening when I went
out to run an errand. Refused to access data. Phone normally lives
on a Wifi network.

The new "Keep Wifi on" setting in Wifi sleep settings can be disabled
and it should fix this, because it'll always turn Wifi off when the phone sleeps
and if it wakes up on EVDO somewhere else it should work normally.
Weird thing is the underlying effect of "Keep Wifi on" was introduced in 1.3.5
and nobody reported this problem with it. Some people had high battery drain
issues, but nothing like this.

ian

mpersad · 03/02/2010, 10:52 AM

im getting really really frustrated with all the bugs. and sprint customer service acts like i'm the only one with this problem.

rth3775 · 03/02/2010, 10:57 AM

I did notice this! My picture messages would fail whenever I was associated with an AP. Quick fix: disconnect from Wifi.

I distinctly remember this happening BEFORE 1.4, however.

trim81 · 03/02/2010, 11:02 AM

I too noticed this..

I finally just doctored the phone and it worked fine.

heres a tip though: may or may not be useful.

I've noticed doctoring straigt to 1.4 somehow seemed slow and non responsive still (even after a full erase)

what I did was: doctored to 1.2.1 and then OTA update to 1.4

my theory is the 1.4 doctor have a bad packaging (or at less my download was corrupted in someway ---just a hunch)

whatever the case is, if this is stll an ongoing problem for you, consider starting fresh with a doctor

RMB · 03/02/2010, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim81

I too noticed this..

I finally just doctored the phone and it worked fine.

heres a tip though: may or may not be useful.

I've noticed doctoring straigt to 1.4 somehow seemed slow and non responsive still (even after a full erase)

what I did was: doctored to 1.2.1 and then OTA update to 1.4

my theory is the 1.4 doctor have a bad packaging (or at less my download was corrupted in someway ---just a hunch)

whatever the case is, if this is stll an ongoing problem for you, consider starting fresh with a doctor

Kinda off-topic question:

What happens to the apps (paid/free) you have downloaded from app catalog which works on 1.3 or above.
Do you get them back once you update to 1.4?

trim81 · 03/02/2010, 11:14 AM

paid apps are resynced over the air

homebrew are not

alhaqq · 03/02/2010, 11:31 AM

I left my wifi on at home overnight and just a little while earlier noticed that EVDO is no longer working, despite the icon being there.

I tried 'Update Network Settings' and after spinning the wheel for a little while it said update failed.

After doing a luna restart EVDO is working now even though the update said it didn't work.

I already doctored my phone and did a full erase after 1.4 came out so I think this is definitely a 1.4 software issue. O well, at least EVDO is working now

eserrano250 · 03/02/2010, 11:33 AM

I have this same issue. I have been noticing it since I updated to 1.4 early Saturday morning. What I do is reset Java with Luna Manager and then everything works fine.

roger69504 · 03/02/2010, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mahylo

I found a new issue after the 1.4 update.

I've been leaving my WiFi on. When at home and work, it kicks in and works fine. Outside of either EVDO kicks in and works just fine.

After updating to 1.4, the switch back to EVDO doesn't work. Everything "looks" normal and I get no errors, but no data traffic flows. The only way I can get EVDO working again is to hit "Update Network Settings" in the Phone Preferences.

Anyone experience this?

Yes, I can confirm this as well.

+1...I was wondering if I was the only one....I hope they fix this soon as it is an EXtreme annoyance

Insp_Gadget · 03/02/2010, 03:41 PM

I don't see anyone saying whether they are on Sprint or Verizon. I'm on Sprint and not seeing this issue. Is this only happening for Verizon folks?

03/01/2010, 09:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
insane42 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 655 Likes Received: 6 Thanks: 37 Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts	EVDO Stops Working after WiFi Switch I found a new issue after the 1.4 update. I've been leaving my WiFi on. When at home and work, it kicks in and works fine. Outside of either EVDO kicks in and works just fine. After updating to 1.4, the switch back to EVDO doesn't work. Everything "looks" normal and I get no errors, but no data traffic flows. The only way I can get EVDO working again is to hit "Update Network Settings" in the Phone Preferences. Anyone experience this?
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03/01/2010, 09:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
MarkY Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: DC/MD Posts: 2,753 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 56 Thanked 44 Times in 32 Posts	I noticed the same thing today.
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03/01/2010, 09:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
ccs86 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 124 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Yup, I had to put my phone into airplane mode then return to get it to work... __________________ http://www.LeanAngle.us
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03/01/2010, 09:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Achill3s Forum Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,999 Likes Received: 59 Thanks: 262 Thanked 539 Times in 392 Posts	I'm not seeing this on my Pre. Just tested it. Works fine.
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03/01/2010, 09:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Njtroncoso Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 61 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 56 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I am having the same issue... I noticed it on sunday after the update... and yes, I have to update my network settings to correct it temporarily.. :-( .. it is really an inconvenience!
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03/01/2010, 09:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
netwrkr9 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Likes Received: 154 Thanks: 453 Thanked 495 Times in 364 Posts	I just turn off "wifi" and it switches to EVDO. When I leave my house I always switch off "wifi" to help conserve the battery.
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03/01/2010, 09:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
TIWizard Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 745 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 81 Thanked 218 Times in 75 Posts	So that's why my EVDO stopped working... __________________ Sprint Palm Pre - WebOS 2.1 > Sprint HTC Arrive
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03/01/2010, 10:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
mahylo Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 79 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	I found a new issue after the 1.4 update. I've been leaving my WiFi on. When at home and work, it kicks in and works fine. Outside of either EVDO kicks in and works just fine. After updating to 1.4, the switch back to EVDO doesn't work. Everything "looks" normal and I get no errors, but no data traffic flows. The only way I can get EVDO working again is to hit "Update Network Settings" in the Phone Preferences. Anyone experience this? Yes, I can confirm this as well. Last edited by mahylo; 03/01/2010 at 10:01 PM. Reason: Missing the reply.
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03/01/2010, 10:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Daemon Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 809 Likes Received: 10 Thanks: 16 Thanked 119 Times in 77 Posts	I think I experienced the same behavior just this evening when I went out to run an errand. Refused to access data. Phone normally lives on a Wifi network. The new "Keep Wifi on" setting in Wifi sleep settings can be disabled and it should fix this, because it'll always turn Wifi off when the phone sleeps and if it wakes up on EVDO somewhere else it should work normally. Weird thing is the underlying effect of "Keep Wifi on" was introduced in 1.3.5 and nobody reported this problem with it. Some people had high battery drain issues, but nothing like this. ian
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03/02/2010, 10:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
mpersad Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	im getting really really frustrated with all the bugs. and sprint customer service acts like i'm the only one with this problem.
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03/02/2010, 10:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
rth3775 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 9 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I did notice this! My picture messages would fail whenever I was associated with an AP. Quick fix: disconnect from Wifi. I distinctly remember this happening BEFORE 1.4, however.
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03/02/2010, 11:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
trim81 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 626, Los Angeles Posts: 2,726 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 381 Thanked 197 Times in 129 Posts	I too noticed this.. I finally just doctored the phone and it worked fine. heres a tip though: may or may not be useful. I've noticed doctoring straigt to 1.4 somehow seemed slow and non responsive still (even after a full erase) what I did was: doctored to 1.2.1 and then OTA update to 1.4 my theory is the 1.4 doctor have a bad packaging (or at less my download was corrupted in someway ---just a hunch) whatever the case is, if this is stll an ongoing problem for you, consider starting fresh with a doctor
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03/02/2010, 11:14 AM	#16 (permalink)
trim81 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 626, Los Angeles Posts: 2,726 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 381 Thanked 197 Times in 129 Posts	paid apps are resynced over the air homebrew are not
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03/02/2010, 11:31 AM	#17 (permalink)
alhaqq Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 77 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 22 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I left my wifi on at home overnight and just a little while earlier noticed that EVDO is no longer working, despite the icon being there. I tried 'Update Network Settings' and after spinning the wheel for a little while it said update failed. After doing a luna restart EVDO is working now even though the update said it didn't work. I already doctored my phone and did a full erase after 1.4 came out so I think this is definitely a 1.4 software issue. O well, at least EVDO is working now
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03/02/2010, 11:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
eserrano250 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 97 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 11 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	I have this same issue. I have been noticing it since I updated to 1.4 early Saturday morning. What I do is reset Java with Luna Manager and then everything works fine.
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03/02/2010, 03:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
Insp_Gadget Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: DC Metro Area Posts: 1,457 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 12 Thanked 127 Times in 91 Posts	Sprint? Verizon? or Both? I don't see anyone saying whether they are on Sprint or Verizon. I'm on Sprint and not seeing this issue. Is this only happening for Verizon folks? __________________ --Inspector Gadget "Go Go Gadget Pre!!" Palm Pre on Sprint Palm V--> Palm IIIc--> Visor Prism--> Visor Phone--> Treo 270--> Treo 600--> Treo 650--> Treo 700wx--> HTC Touch Diamond--> Palm Pre & HTC EVO 4G.
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