remove application updates from Apps cataloge

[alfetta_sg]

Hi,

I'm looking for anything that could improve my battery life...

I noticed, that anytime I restart the system, there is a notification telling me, that I have:

Five Applications
Download failed

in the details, it gives me list of 5 applications, that I installed before WebOS 1.3 (and the Apps catalog was still working). I probably selected them for update later, but it didn't happened (the famous "not in your country").

Now, I can't delete the application from my installed applications, as the catalog is not working.

I tried to remove the application using Preware, which it did. However, the update still probably has the notification somewhere, that the 5 apps need to be downloaded/updated...

I don't know, how often this process runs, but if it's often, it does probably contribute to my battery problems...

any suggestions?

thanks,
pete

qwertz Pre in Singapore M1

[pman_lt]

I had the same problem with Twee. The app was no longer on my phone, but the update was still poping up in Updates.

I downloaded the ipk file for the App instaled it using WOQI, then made shure that update was gone and removed app simlpy hitting Apps icon while holding Orange key on the keyboard.

There is a way to download iPK file for any Free app, and use it without the App catalog.

[alfetta_sg]

thanks.

Even if it's lengthy, it would be OK to do it this way. How would one go about downloading the iPK for the Free app?

[pman_lt]

Give me an Free app Name and ill try to point out the "route".

My example Break Videos (free App), I've downloaded it a while ago and after resetting (Full Erase) phone, found out that app no longer shows up in App Catalog (due some changes made in 1.3.5.2).

So I went to Index of /feeds and checked if the App is in one of the feeds.

Break Videos was in ( http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/palm-catalog/Packages ), search for package "com.breakapps.break" or just Break Videos.

Now from Google we know, that free ipk are downloaded from

https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/apps/xxx/files/packagename_version_all.ipk

The values that change in every app are marked bold:

xxx is a some kind of app number,

packagename_version_all.ipk is apps package name flowed by version number and a _all.ipkending.

to find out that info we need check the feed, source:

Package: com.breakapps.break
Version: 0.8.3
Section: Entertainment
Architecture: all
Maintainer: Break <http://breakmedia.zendesk.com/portal>
Size: 1723058
Source: { "Homepage":"http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.breakapps.break", "LastUpdated":"1260004111", "Title":"Break Videos",......<...>......"http://cdn.downloads.palm.com/public/601/icon/icon.png", "Screenshots":["http://cdn.downloads.palm.com/public/601/en/images/1/L/search_new.jpg","http://cdn.downloads.palm.com/public/601/en/images/2/L/whatshot.png","http://cdn.downloads.palm.com/public/601/en/images/3/L/new_aboutus.png"], "Feed":"Palm Catalog" }
Description: Break Videos

You can see, something like http://cdn.downloads.palm.com/public/601/en/images/1/L/search_new.jpg, where /610/ is the "secret" number

Now, other part off the ipk link: package name and version. These are easy one's: Package is the name of the package ( in the egz. com.breakapps.break) and version 0.8.3, you just need to ad _ symbol (underscore) between them, and add _all.ipk in the end.

So we get a link:

https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/apps/601/files/com.breakapps.break_0.8.3_all.ipk

When you get/download *.ipk file, use WOQI (WebOSQuickinstall) or Terminal (app) commands, to install it to your Pre (Pixi?).

I think all of this could be automated in some slick way, but for me i only needed to download couple apps so I worked it manually.

P.S. you can't download paid apps this way

[GuyFromNam]

this should be turned into a sticky note for the GSM forum.
very intelligent deduction.

[pman_lt]

Or this could be incorporated into http://www.precentral.net/app-gallery/app-catalog next to Download now - webOS Link, something like "Download ipk for WOQI".

Preware would be great

[kel101]

so what good free apps are there that we dont have (gsm users)

[pman_lt]

All the game Demos (Asphalt5, Gangstar), couple Stopwatch/Timer Apps... Baisaicaly it depends on how many apps you can see on App Catalog

[kel101]

Originally Posted by pman_lt

All the game Demos (Asphalt5, Gangstar), couple Stopwatch/Timer Apps... Baisaicaly it depends on how many apps you can see on App Catalog

got the demo's and break videos..cant really find anything else

[alfetta_sg]

Hi,

thanks for the great and detailed explanation. Now, I have another problem. Some of the applications, which are still "due" for update, are paid apps. So, I can't download it. And my Pre still has them in as greyed-out with the "warning Triangle !"

Is there any way to clean this on the phone? where does the application catalog keep the info on which apps need to be updated?

thanks,
pete

[memfel]

sorry for the stupid question....but how do u manage to download the ipk in webos?and then install it?
cause i put the feed, i see the list of apps...but then?

thx for any help.

[pman_lt]

I don't think you can do this in the phone directly (except if it's possible to install via App Catalog).

Just use computer

[memfel]

well, yes, sorry, i wrote webos...but meant webos quick install...was just making a bad abbreviation.
anyhow, i need some hint on how to install from there once i have the link...

[pman_lt]

1. Download the *.ipk file to computer.
2. Connect your Pre to computer using USB cable, and when prompted, select "Charge Only"
3. Lounch WOQI
4. Click on big green "+" in the rigth of the application window.
5. Select the downloaded *.ipk file in the file browser, and click "Select"
You should see the App name in the "Files to install" list
6. Click big "Install!" button on the bottom of the WOQI window.
7. Waith for app to be installed.

Now, the newly installed ap should show up in the Pre, and you should be able to use it.

[memfel]

well, then i guess my problem is different....cause i know that i can do it that way, i do it also for patches here and there.
the point is that when i use the link following the instructions i cannot get to open the page, the browser give the message i am not allowed...or something like that.
that's why i thought i had to do the all process downloading also the ipk from woqi....and that's why i didn't get how to manage it....

thanks anyway, i'll try from another pc to see if i can get the links to ipk to work.

[Griffinx]

Thanks for this discovery.

Is there a way to get a list of all free apps that are not available outside of the US (so that we can see what were missing)

Thanks

Gx

[palmdoc2005]

Originally Posted by Griffinx

Thanks for this discovery.

Is there a way to get a list of all free apps that are not available outside of the US (so that we can see what were missing)

Thanks

Gx

Yup

Applications - Cyrket

[Griffinx]

Originally Posted by palmdoc2005

Yup

Applications - Cyrket

Thanks but this includes all free apps including the US...can you find out which ones are not available outside the US?

Gx

[Griffinx]

I parsed the palm catalog feed and produced a file of the apps that are only available in the US but that are free.

Its a csv file but the forum doesn't allow .csv file types so I had to rename it .txt.

Rename back to .csv and it will load nicely in Excel.


Gx

[Winterbay]

Originally Posted by Griffinx

I parsed the palm catalog feed and produced a file of the apps that are only available in the US but that are free.

Its a csv file but the forum doesn't allow .csv file types so I had to rename it .txt.

Rename back to .csv and it will load nicely in Excel.


Gx

Cool. Is there any way you could do that for the applications that should be available outside of the US for us that do not have access to the app catalogue (even though we should) so we can know what we can install?