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Take it for what is worth, but I personally have witnessed 7 high level managers in Verizon using the Palm Pre Plus. I asked a couple of them if they liked the phone and they said it is a great phone.
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02/09/2010, 09:22 AM
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02/09/2010, 09:25 AM
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Well it doesn't help that they're targeting mothers in their marketing.
Overall, though, the Pre is aging. It needs a bigger screen, it should be thinner, it should have a longer lasting battery...it could use some improvement. The 16gbs is nice but this phone is sitting on the shelf next to phones like the Droid. It's a gorgeous phone, it's screen is great and so is the OS, but it needs to be bigger and better to gain traction. |
02/09/2010, 09:34 AM
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I have to admit even though I liked some of the Pre commercials, both Sprint and Verizon dropped the ball when it came to marketing the Pre. Of course phone buffs like ourselves already new about the Pre, but the casual phone user has no idea what is out there except whatever they see or hear on TV. Droid had a totally badass add campaign that almost made me want to buy one even though the form factor is butt ugly! Marketing sells more than a product ever will, no matter how good it is.
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02/09/2010, 09:44 AM
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02/09/2010, 10:11 AM
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There is a lot of hand wringing and unwarranted sadness in this thread. Palm has done an amazing job adopting new hardware and they currently have the best operating system on the market. Everything is going to be fine. |
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02/09/2010, 10:49 AM
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But as of right now, not nearly enough people believe WebOS is "the best", and even fewer believe Palm has done an "amazing job" with the hardware. The Pre is still the slowest of all of the Cortex Arm 8 phones on the market. |
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02/09/2010, 11:01 AM
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My husband has gotten 3 other people on Verizon to purchase the Palm Pre + and I've gotten 10 on Sprint. I don't think Verizon has done a very good job advertising they even have it. I've seen maybe 10 commericals since it was released and there are no ads in the windows at any of our local stores.
Sprint in my area is still very much advertising both Pre and Pixi. Large displays, window ads and still a few commericals on local TV. |
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When I say that Palm has done an amazing job with the hardware I mean that they were the first manufacturer to integrate two cutting-edge chipsets into their products and the first to ship them into the market in working handsets. They have demonstrated how nimble they are with the hardware already. I think people are wrong when they assume that Palm will not be able to do this with a third device. |
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Even then, HTC has brought many more hardware "firsts" to market than Palm. We're talking a pretty low bar here... |
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This is a bit discouraging to me. I was hoping that opening up on Verizon would yield big results, although I see that the marketing effort is pretty much non-existent.
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They tend to lean more toward "How big is the screen?" and "Does it seem fast or slow when I am playing with it in the store?" Maybe even "How much music can I put on it?" In these areas, it is falling behind. Rapidly. |
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Bulls eye. We can speculate all day long , but something doesn't add up. PALM though lacking in cash could have afforded a 30 second superbowl commercial. But they didn't. I am not sure what their game plan is , but your comment on closing the window is true. I can see Google and APPLE eating everybody's market share in couple of years. I suspect PALM is offering another handset ( based on Jon Rubinstein 's comments), but I could be wrong. Pre , for all its elegance is yet to penetrate the mainstream customer segment. Most mainstream customers buy phones on "the looks" or "peer pressure" or "status symbol" or "distinct". Pre can be distinct , but they have to get the "looks". |
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Many other analysts have called Palm's meeting their own goals delusional. They pat themselves on the back inside the ivory tower, congratulating themselves on getting bonuses and reaching "targets" and looking forward to believing the street will be so excited and that will justify their big bonuses for the next quarter. Meanwhile the company's burn rate says that if they just stay even they'll be gone in 2011. |
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I also do not think that the Pre feels slow while you are playing with it, and the multitasking remains unmatched. It also comes with the same amount of storage as the Droid. I know that the Droid's storage is expandable, but if you're talking about the average consumer how many of them are really going to be routinely popping out the battery and swapping MicroSD cards? We'll probably just have to agree to disagree because you are fixated on the fact that the hardware is wildly behind the times when that clearly isn't the case at all. |
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