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  1. #61  
    Here's another recap of flcabrio's post above. When I read his post, I had been losing 10%+ on the battery per hour under normal usage. In the first hour after uninstalling Yahoo contacts, I lost 1% after a couple of short calls and 3 texts. Thanks to flcabrio for logging his stats and sharing them here!

    I was very happy with my battery life before I added Yahoo contacts. I could go about 2 days without having to charge. As soon as I added Yahoo contacts, my battery started draining like crazy, so I ran a little experiment.

    With Yahoo contacts added:
    11/14 2am - 54%
    11/15 7am - woke to dead battery. (only 5 hours later.....not good)

    Removed Yahoo contacts:
    11/15 10:30am - 95%
    11/15 6:30pm - 70% (8 hours later.......much better)

    Readded Yahoo contacts:
    11/15 6:30 pm - 70%
    11/15 10:30 pm - 24% (only 4 hours - Definitely draining fast)

    Removed Yahoo contacts and recharged

    11/16 7am - 100%
    11/16 3:30pm - 76% (8 1/2 hours later - good battery life)

    Yahoo contacts is definitely the culprit. I really wish it would work, because I use Yahoo for everything, but I can't be charging my battery every 4 hours. Palm still has some work to do.
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    Yahoo is the culprit.
    Whats funny is I removed the Yahoo Contacts, yet the battery is draining like crazy.

    BTW, I do have an extended battery. It doesn't help.
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    #63  
    I left work today and was shocked to see 55% on my battery indicator.

    I am usually down closer to 30% by the time I leave work, I didn't even make any calls during the day. At least on this first business day my battery life has been better with 1.3.1
  4. #64  
    I removed all yahoo - my messenger, calendar, contacts ... but the battery drain was still horrid! I turned off WI FI and for me that stopped the battery drain .. now when I turn it on, its draining at about 20% every 30 minutes
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    I'm losing about 1.5% per hour, definitely much better than 1.2.1

    For reference, I was losing about 3.5% per hour on 1.2.1
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    I don't have Yahoo contacts and I have noticed a pretty good decrease in batter life in the last 30 minutes or so. I'll give it a few days to see how it pans out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neville View Post
    I'm losing about 1.5% per hour, definitely much better than 1.2.1

    For reference, I was losing about 3.5% per hour on 1.2.1
    It's funny because for every person in here who reports that their
    battery usage is better, there's someone over in the "OMG my battery
    usage with 1.3.1 is horrible" thread (or equiv) saying exactly the opposite.

    All reports good or bad should be taken with a huge grain of salt for at least
    the first week after the update.

    Personally, I've been doing and seeing what I always do and see. I run
    Battery Monitor app all the time, which shows real and UI reported battery %,
    resetting the graph every time I take the phone off the charger, and
    watch how the phone charges and discharges. As I've seen after
    previous updates, the actual and UI % can differ a lot for the first couple
    days. I find that sometimes it may take hours to charge from indicated
    95% to 100%, or never reach it at all. It may appear to drop from 95%
    to 75% in less than an hour with no usage. Or conversely it may take an
    hour after I unplug before it drops from 100% to 99%. Over time, the
    randomness subsides, actual and UI % more closely match and everything
    returns to normal.

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    #68  
    I'm also experiencing significantly poorer battery performance since the 1.3.1 upgrade. I don't have Yahoo contacts, and I don't believe it's a "recalibration" issue...all of the posters have applied upgrades before without ill effects. I think there is plenty of evidence from the many posts that there is something about this upgrade that has a significant detrimental impact on battery performance. At this point, my battery performance falloff with this upgrade renders a previously excellent phone much less usable...I now have to make sure I have a charger/cable nearby wherever I go. The question is: what can be done about this? Is Palm aware that there is likely a serious problem with the last upgrade, and if so is there any plan to address it? Or is the only recourse to go back to 1.2.1, or (last resort) return the phone?
  9. #69  
    So after removing yahoo contacts, calendar and IM, my battery has improved back to pre 1.3.1 status. It only happened after I removed everything yahoo, and recharged my phone once. Not sure if this will help anyone, but it did work for me. Also my phone doesn't seem so sluggish anymore. Good luck everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roymus View Post
    I'm also experiencing significantly poorer battery performance since the 1.3.1 upgrade. I don't have Yahoo contacts, and I don't believe it's a "recalibration" issue...all of the posters have applied upgrades before without ill effects. I think there is plenty of evidence from the many posts that there is something about this upgrade that has a significant detrimental impact on battery performance. At this point, my battery performance falloff with this upgrade renders a previously excellent phone much less usable...I now have to make sure I have a charger/cable nearby wherever I go. The question is: what can be done about this? Is Palm aware that there is likely a serious problem with the last upgrade, and if so is there any plan to address it? Or is the only recourse to go back to 1.2.1, or (last resort) return the phone?
    Wait it out. It *will* get better. I promise. My battery usage *appeared*
    to be quite poor yesterday (about 12-15%/hr). Right now, after the last
    charge (2 full cycles so far since update) it's showing only 1.2%/hr drain.
    I believe neither. I know it will sort itself out in a day or two and
    return to its normal 3%/hr.

    Even if this weren't largely a calibration quirk (which the battery monitor
    app clearly shows is a big factor), there are other reasons to not
    trust the battery usage during the update period while Palm's servers
    and Sprints network are thrashed, and every background connection
    takes longer keeping the radio more active.

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    my battery is horrendous since the upgrade, its actually getting worse. I'm now down to 67% after only removing it from the touchstone 1 1/2 hours ago. All I've done is listen to some music. On a similar day with the exact same usage it would be down to 94%. Mine is a gsm phone if this might be related. I'll have to revert to an older version
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    Mine's getting better after being quirky for a couple days. Took it off the
    charger 6 hours ago and it has dropped from 98% actual (per battery monitor
    app) to 91%.

    ian
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    after removing yahoo calendar and contacts my battery is back to normal
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    Ya, that seems to be a pretty common theme with the 1.3.1 battery threads.
    YIM integration works ok, when it works at all, and doesn't pull
    down the battery, but Yahoo Contacts and maybe Calendar suck, literally.
    It also automatically adds Yahoo Mail with a push profile (as messages arrive)
    and that's always power hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaboymartell View Post
    any of you getting better battery life after the update?
    Off Charger at 6 AM, before 1.3 update the 20% notification hit about 9 PM, now after 1.3 .... Hits 20% at 2 PM NO APPs running, and no roam. What's up with that!!!!!!!!
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    yes my battery is wayyyyyy better now after the 1.3 update i was online for hours and when i check i still have 48 percent
  17. #77  
    Just for the hell of it, I reloaded Yahoo contacts to my phone today just to see if there may have been any improvements to the battery drain issue that appears to be tied to Yahoo contacts.

    Sure enough, as soon as I reinstalled Yahoo contacts, all hell broke loose with the battery. In just one hour, I lost 16%; that's with no calls, no texts, no web access - just turning the phone on to monitor the battery.

    So I've uninstalled Yahoo contacts again, and under the same usage, I've lost 1% in an hour.

    I know there's a number of people on here who wisely preach patience in battery issues. I absolutely agree with that approach. It's simply that in this case it's fortunate that a clearly identified specific item is causing an issue.

    As I've read elsewhere, there is a specific protocol issue at Yahoo's end that causes the constant connection and the repeated need to re-enter your password. This is NOT a Sprint, Palm or 1.3.1 update issue. It's a Yahoo problem. Until it's fixed, it's clearly best to keep this off your phone.
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    I'm the one preaching patience, but I've also made it clear that
    Yahoo synergy appears to be broken, so yes best to remove
    Yahoo Contacts/Calendar for now, and set Yahoo email back to polling
    from push profile. Keep in mind though, that the Yahoo synergy
    problem requires that you make the choice to add it. It's not inherent
    to 1.3.1 itself. If you say "I *only* installed 1.3.1. and battery is all
    over the place", but in reality you installed 1.3.1 and then added Yahoo
    synergy, but didn't say that, then not my fault for not reading your mind.

    For whatever it's worth, here's what my phone is doing on standby now.
    3 polling email accounts, GPS off, no calls.
    If this holds up, it'll be noticeably better than 1.2.1, but I'm still going
    to wait a couple more days before drawing any conclusions.

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  19. #79  
    This thread has been very helpful to find out what the culprit of the battery drain is and I'm glad that it was started. As I recall a particular someone said people should be banned for posting battery problems is now trying to take credit for everything. True some of us turned on Yahoo Synergy but that was part of the 1.3.1 update so in a way it was causing the problem. And no Ian, you weren't the one telling everyone that Yahoo Synergy was problem, I believe someone else posted that information.
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    I'm not taking credit for it, but I didn't tell anyone to ignore that
    particular problem either, as I see it as an independent problem, just
    as push mail and GPS and such are. It's not inherent to the 1.3.1 update,
    any more than AIM or Google integration is. If Yahoo Synergy is the
    problem then you chose to enable it, and should make it clear
    that's it's one of the changes you made after the update. It
    doesn't happen by itself.

    I stand by my assessment of the more general battery randomness after
    each update. It's taken a couple days for the Yahoo problem to
    become obvious through the noise of some people reporting great
    usage, and some awful usage and everything in between. That noise
    is present after every update. Stick around, you'll see.

    ian
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