Daylight saving time

jbg7474 · 11/01/2009, 12:01 AM

Well, we're about to see how well the Pre handles daylight saving time. Will your alarm go off?

Thrill_Me007 · 11/01/2009, 02:03 AM

I noticed my first problem.. My texts are coming in but saying they are from an hour earlier.. Pre is jumping the gun! Haha

jhoff80 · 11/01/2009, 02:09 AM

My Pre automatically changed it's own clock at 2am->1am, as it was supposed to. That's more than I can say about my Treos.

Ehsan · 11/01/2009, 02:40 AM

i dont know how or why but my network time zone (under Date & Time setting on 3rd launcher page) shows Denver and for that reason my time was not changed on my Pre i manually went through all time zone and choose Chicago the only central time zone and after that everything is normal. Just a FYI.

shopharim · 11/01/2009, 04:22 AM

my alarm went off an hour early. I'm not supposed to be up yet.

shopharim · 11/01/2009, 04:27 AM

I should have known...yesterday, when I created a new event for today, the start time I selected was changed to one hour earlier when I saved.

**bevcraw** · 11/01/2009, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehsan

i dont know how or why but my network time zone (under Date & Time setting on 3rd launcher page) shows Denver and for that reason my time was not changed on my Pre i manually went through all time zone and choose Chicago the only central time zone and after that everything is normal. Just a FYI.

Mine did the same thing. When I first looked at the phone this morning, it showed the correct post-DST time. A few minutes later, I noticed that it was an hour too early. When I went to date and time, I noticed that it was showing Denver as the network time zone. I changed it back to Chicago, and it is still showing the correct time.

jtlapp · 11/01/2009, 07:18 AM

The Pre got DST wrong. Fell back 2 hours, not one.

Seems my time zone changed too. Went from Central to Mountain.

Now I have to figure out how to set the time zone...

~joe

jtlapp · 11/01/2009, 07:25 AM

Maybe Sprint is in error, not Palm? My Network Time Zone is wrong. I had to turn it off and use the manual time zone. That's annoying. ~joe

jbg7474 · 11/01/2009, 07:26 AM

My time change seems to have gone okay, but the clock app rang the alarm an hour LATE, which doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

mediaserve · 11/01/2009, 07:30 AM

My alarm also went off an hour late. The phone correctly said it was 7AM at the time, but the alarm was set for 6AM - and showed 6:00 Alarm on the screen while the time showing correctly as 7AM.

My time zone stayed correct - CST.

jtlapp · 11/01/2009, 07:37 AM

jbg7474: Software will generally use GMT time for the time and then tailor the time displayed according to time zone and DST. The time is not actually changed in the software when changing time zone or DST. This way times can be compared across time zones. But it also means that every app needs time zone/DST smarts, or at least needs to rely on the OS to supply such smarts. Apparently the alarm function does not employ such smarts. ~joe

rc46 · 11/01/2009, 07:52 AM

My time change went perfect. My alarm went off this morning at the correct time.

It is so funny how around here people seem to have problems with just about everything. Its the strangest thing.

sweetneas · 11/01/2009, 07:52 AM

Mine fell back 2 hours as well.

jayhawks · 11/01/2009, 07:53 AM

My Pre's time was wrong also. In the Date & Time settings, the Network time zone was set to MST Denver. I am in Central time. When the time changed, it jumped back two hours. So I turned off "Network time zone", and scrolled through a thousand countries and selected Chicago CST. That set the time correct.
But just FYI, when I turned Network time zone back to ON, it says "waiting for network time..." and after five minutes, in the words of Bono, "I still haven't found what I'm looking for". So whatever time server it is looking for it can't seem to find it. Go figure.

jye75 · 11/01/2009, 07:54 AM

Same here, time showed up properly, but alarm went off at 7am, was set for 6am in the clock. It's SUNDAY though, so why the hell did it set itself in the first place???? Last thing I want to do is get woken up by an alarm clock on Sunday!!

Longstrider · 11/01/2009, 08:11 AM

Not only did my alarm not go off, but the Pre was frozen. I could not get the screen on and thought that the battery had drained. But it had not. I soon realized that it was taking about 40 seconds for the phone to preform any gesture or button push. When the Pre finally did light up, there was a too many cards icon in the alert area... but there was not one card open. Perhaps it was simply coincidence, but I am hoping that it was related to day light savings time. Battery life is the biggest issue I have had with the phone, but if what happened last night becomes common or recurring, well obviously, the Pre will have to be go... and I will be sad.

davidtm · 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayhawks

. . . When the time changed, it jumped back two hours. So I turned off "Network time zone", and scrolled through a thousand countries and selected Chicago CST. That set the time correct.
But just FYI, when I turned Network time zone back to ON, it says "waiting for network time..." and after five minutes, in the words of Bono, "I still haven't found what I'm looking for". So whatever time server it is looking for it can't seem to find it. Go figure.

My exact experience, other than being in EST and having been switched to CST for unknown reason. My Pre's still waiting, too . . .

The Calendar entries seem unscathed, other than another spate of Google changing all-day events to 12:00-11:59, but that's another story . . .

EDIT: I went into the Phone app Preferences and updated network settings (and PRL, which probably didn't do anything), and the Pre was no longer waiting. Not sure if what I did worked, or if it just killed enough time for the network to get it right.

sweetneas · 11/01/2009, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtlapp

The Pre got DST wrong. Fell back 2 hours, not one.

Seems my time zone changed too. Went from Central to Mountain.

Now I have to figure out how to set the time zone...

~joe

This is what happened to mine. An easy fix.

Insp_Gadget · 11/01/2009, 08:32 AM

I noticed even when I was using my Diamond, that the Network Time & Network Time Zone functions were not reliable.

When I got my Pre, I noticed problems with the timezone even back in June, so I had set the time zone manually and left Network Time set to ON.

With those settings, DST worked on my Pre just as it was supposed to.

I think the majority of issues that people are seeing is due to the Network feeding the wrong time and/or timezone to the Pre. I don't think Sprint has consistently programmed its entire cell network for the new DST settings or some of the towers that Sprint is using are not programmed for the right timezone.

11/01/2009, 12:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
jbg7474 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 3,858 Likes Received: 92 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 1,061 Times in 715 Posts	Daylight saving time Well, we're about to see how well the Pre handles daylight saving time. Will your alarm go off?
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11/01/2009, 02:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
Thrill_Me007 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 36 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I noticed my first problem.. My texts are coming in but saying they are from an hour earlier.. Pre is jumping the gun! Haha __________________ WHITE HORSE - Linked to instinct, purity and the drive of the physical body to release powerful and emotional forces, like rage with ensuing chaos and destruction. - The Subconscious Psychosis of Dreams
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11/01/2009, 02:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
jhoff80 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boston-area Posts: 6,973 Likes Received: 116 Thanks: 418 Thanked 1,252 Times in 710 Posts	My Pre automatically changed it's own clock at 2am->1am, as it was supposed to. That's more than I can say about my Treos.
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11/01/2009, 02:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ehsan Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX- USA Posts: 781 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 20 Thanked 40 Times in 11 Posts	i dont know how or why but my network time zone (under Date & Time setting on 3rd launcher page) shows Denver and for that reason my time was not changed on my Pre i manually went through all time zone and choose Chicago the only central time zone and after that everything is normal. Just a FYI. __________________ Technological superiority has never won a product battle. If that were the case we would all be flying in supersonic Concordes and using Apple computers. The key to winning the battle is a combination of price, convenience, marketing, sound business model and a bit of luck.
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11/01/2009, 04:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
shopharim Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,196 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 34 Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts	my alarm went off an hour early. I'm not supposed to be up yet.
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11/01/2009, 04:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
shopharim Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,196 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 34 Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts	I should have known...yesterday, when I created a new event for today, the start time I selected was changed to one hour earlier when I saved.
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11/01/2009, 07:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
jtlapp Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 362 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 49 Thanked 92 Times in 24 Posts	The Pre got DST wrong. Fell back 2 hours, not one. Seems my time zone changed too. Went from Central to Mountain. Now I have to figure out how to set the time zone... ~joe
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11/01/2009, 07:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
jtlapp Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 362 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 49 Thanked 92 Times in 24 Posts	Maybe Sprint is in error, not Palm? My Network Time Zone is wrong. I had to turn it off and use the manual time zone. That's annoying. ~joe
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11/01/2009, 07:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
jbg7474 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 3,858 Likes Received: 92 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 1,061 Times in 715 Posts	My time change seems to have gone okay, but the clock app rang the alarm an hour LATE, which doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.
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11/01/2009, 07:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
mediaserve Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 16 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My alarm also went off an hour late. The phone correctly said it was 7AM at the time, but the alarm was set for 6AM - and showed 6:00 Alarm on the screen while the time showing correctly as 7AM. My time zone stayed correct - CST.
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11/01/2009, 07:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
jtlapp Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 362 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 49 Thanked 92 Times in 24 Posts	jbg7474: Software will generally use GMT time for the time and then tailor the time displayed according to time zone and DST. The time is not actually changed in the software when changing time zone or DST. This way times can be compared across time zones. But it also means that every app needs time zone/DST smarts, or at least needs to rely on the OS to supply such smarts. Apparently the alarm function does not employ such smarts. ~joe
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11/01/2009, 07:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
rc46 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,650 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 186 Thanked 203 Times in 133 Posts	My time change went perfect. My alarm went off this morning at the correct time. It is so funny how around here people seem to have problems with just about everything. Its the strangest thing. __________________ Pilot 1000 -> Pilot 5000 ->Palm Pilot Professional -> HP 620LX -> TRG Pro -> Palm V -> Palm Vx -> Palm M505 -> Palm i705 -> Palm Tungsten\|T -> Samsung i500 -> Treo 600->Treo 650 -> Treo 600-> Treo 700p ->Centro ->Treo 800w + Redfly C8n -> Palm Pre -> HP Touchpad R.I.P Palm 1996-2011
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11/01/2009, 07:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
sweetneas Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 23 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Mine fell back 2 hours as well.
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11/01/2009, 07:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
jayhawks Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My Pre's time was wrong also. In the Date & Time settings, the Network time zone was set to MST Denver. I am in Central time. When the time changed, it jumped back two hours. So I turned off "Network time zone", and scrolled through a thousand countries and selected Chicago CST. That set the time correct. But just FYI, when I turned Network time zone back to ON, it says "waiting for network time..." and after five minutes, in the words of Bono, "I still haven't found what I'm looking for". So whatever time server it is looking for it can't seem to find it. Go figure.
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11/01/2009, 07:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
jye75 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 108 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts	Same here, time showed up properly, but alarm went off at 7am, was set for 6am in the clock. It's SUNDAY though, so why the hell did it set itself in the first place???? Last thing I want to do is get woken up by an alarm clock on Sunday!!
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11/01/2009, 08:11 AM	#17 (permalink)
Longstrider Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a Fog Posts: 656 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Not only did my alarm not go off, but the Pre was frozen. I could not get the screen on and thought that the battery had drained. But it had not. I soon realized that it was taking about 40 seconds for the phone to preform any gesture or button push. When the Pre finally did light up, there was a too many cards icon in the alert area... but there was not one card open. Perhaps it was simply coincidence, but I am hoping that it was related to day light savings time. Battery life is the biggest issue I have had with the phone, but if what happened last night becomes common or recurring, well obviously, the Pre will have to be go... and I will be sad.
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11/01/2009, 08:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
Insp_Gadget Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: DC Metro Area Posts: 1,457 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 12 Thanked 127 Times in 91 Posts	I noticed even when I was using my Diamond, that the Network Time & Network Time Zone functions were not reliable. When I got my Pre, I noticed problems with the timezone even back in June, so I had set the time zone manually and left Network Time set to ON. With those settings, DST worked on my Pre just as it was supposed to. I think the majority of issues that people are seeing is due to the Network feeding the wrong time and/or timezone to the Pre. I don't think Sprint has consistently programmed its entire cell network for the new DST settings or some of the towers that Sprint is using are not programmed for the right timezone.
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