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I've been planning on getting a Pre for a while now (since before its international release), I just can't afford the contract. So, I was wondering, If I buy a UK O2 SIM-Locked Pre from say, eBay, and then I were to use a Rebel SIM, would it worked? I am also curious to see if the Pay as you go SIM I have from O2 will work straight off in the Pre (I doubt it, but its worth a try) or atleast to create the profile.
Originally Posted by asQuirreL:
I've been planning on getting a Pre for a while now (since before its international release), I just can't afford the contract. So, I was wondering, If I buy a UK O2 SIM-Locked Pre from say, eBay, and then I were to use a Rebel SIM, would it worked? I am also curious to see if the Pay as you go SIM I have from O2 will work straight off in the Pre (I doubt it, but its worth a try) or atleast to create the profile.
Yes, according to the posts in this thread (have a look at those by paulhelyerpre in particular) , it will work. I've been planning on getting a Pre for a while now (since before its international release), I just can't afford the contract. So, I was wondering, If I buy a UK O2 SIM-Locked Pre from say, eBay, and then I were to use a Rebel SIM, would it worked? I am also curious to see if the Pay as you go SIM I have from O2 will work straight off in the Pre (I doubt it, but its worth a try) or atleast to create the profile.
Your O2 SIM would most likely work without the REBEL SIM card. For any other network, you will need REBEL SIM card.
p.s. Am assuming you are in the UK.
Originally Posted by Griffinx:
I rebooted the phone and its stable for the past hour.
Gx
I've noticed that if I turn on airplane mode and turn it back on again, the phone wont connect again at 3G. The same happens if I go out of network coverage. To get it back I have to reboot the phone.I rebooted the phone and its stable for the past hour.
Gx
Anyone any ideas how to circumvent this?
I've also tried selecting the network manually in the pre but this only seems to mess up the network keys on the Rebel SIM.
Gx
Originally Posted by Griffinx:
I rebooted the phone and its stable for the past hour. I know the APN needs to be updated..its currently using an old one (which still works) but Meteor has added a new APN.
MMS isnt working either but I think thats a CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 issue too.
Meteor's network is growing so they are changing things regularly.
Gx
I wonder if your troubles have more to do with that - your growing/changing network than the difference between the UK and O2 Pre.I rebooted the phone and its stable for the past hour. I know the APN needs to be updated..its currently using an old one (which still works) but Meteor has added a new APN.
MMS isnt working either but I think thats a CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 issue too.
Meteor's network is growing so they are changing things regularly.
Gx
Originally Posted by marshalla99:
Allyn (and others) - please remember :
Paul is on a UK spec O2 Pre on a UK network
Griffinx is on an Irish spec. O2 Pre on an Irish network
Two totally different systems...the two O2s are related only by money, not by anything else.
I understand what you're saying, but isn't there only ONE Pre for Europe overall? Not multiple different kinds of devices? Could the differences between the UK and the Irish versions really be that dramatic?Allyn (and others) - please remember :
Paul is on a UK spec O2 Pre on a UK network
Griffinx is on an Irish spec. O2 Pre on an Irish network
Two totally different systems...the two O2s are related only by money, not by anything else.
Originally Posted by Griffinx:
I've noticed that if I turn on airplane mode and turn it back on again, the phone wont connect again at 3G. The same happens if I go out of network coverage. To get it back I have to reboot the phone.
Anyone any ideas how to circumvent this?
I've also tried selecting the network manually in the pre but this only seems to mess up the network keys on the Rebel SIM.
Gx
Airplane mode and back causes no issues for me with automatic network selection.I've noticed that if I turn on airplane mode and turn it back on again, the phone wont connect again at 3G. The same happens if I go out of network coverage. To get it back I have to reboot the phone.
Anyone any ideas how to circumvent this?
I've also tried selecting the network manually in the pre but this only seems to mess up the network keys on the Rebel SIM.
Gx
Try putting the sim in another phone and connect to 3g data (to generate the network keys for 3g data), then put it back into the Pre with the Rebel Sim and see if it works ok then.
Originally Posted by paulhelyerpre:
Try putting the sim in another phone and connect to 3g data (to generate the network keys for 3g data), then put it back into the Pre with the Rebel Sim and see if it works ok then.
Yes, I did that and it connects again to 3G but switching to airplane mode and back still needs a reboot. I'm now trying the different modes on the Rebel to see if it will make a difference.Try putting the sim in another phone and connect to 3g data (to generate the network keys for 3g data), then put it back into the Pre with the Rebel Sim and see if it works ok then.
Originally Posted by Griffinx:
Yes, I did that and it connects again to 3G but switching to airplane mode and back still needs a reboot. I'm now trying the different modes on the Rebel to see if it will make a difference.
The different Rebel modes didn't make any difference to losing data service and incoming calls after toggling airplane mode. I also set the correct settings in the CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 file but that didn't cure the problem either. Yes, I did that and it connects again to 3G but switching to airplane mode and back still needs a reboot. I'm now trying the different modes on the Rebel to see if it will make a difference.
MMS doesn't work on my pre with Meteor IRL even with the updated CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 settings.
So basically I have a working pre on Meteor IRL without MMS but with 3G as long as I don't toggle airplane mode or loose network coverage. In that case I have to reboot.
Gx
Originally Posted by Griffinx:
So basically I have a working pre on Meteor IRL without MMS but with 3G as long as I don't toggle airplane mode or loose network coverage. In that case I have to reboot.
I honestly don't know what your problem is! It sounds far better than using windows mobile So basically I have a working pre on Meteor IRL without MMS but with 3G as long as I don't toggle airplane mode or loose network coverage. In that case I have to reboot.
Just got my Pre and Rebel Sim. My Virgin sim is picking up network but showing as T-Mobile with Roaming - definitely an error in the Carrier Database (I thought it was wrong when I saw that they had the same APN entries amongst other things).
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So how are we all doing today?
Anyone taken delivery of a shiny new Pre and a Rebel Sim Card?
I am just trying to use webOS Doctor to manually update 1.1.3. I want the glowing notification and I cannot wait to get an auto update...
Anyone taken delivery of a shiny new Pre and a Rebel Sim Card?
I am just trying to use webOS Doctor to manually update 1.1.3. I want the glowing notification and I cannot wait to get an auto update...
I'm hopefully picking up the Pre tonight, and the rebel sim should be through the letterbox by the end of the week - strike willing. In the meantime it's UK o2 PAYG (with data) for activation.
Yours still working Paul? Just noticed you're in Hayling Island - the missus is on the IoW this week, can you give her a wave?
Yours still working Paul? Just noticed you're in Hayling Island - the missus is on the IoW this week, can you give her a wave?
Originally Posted by jackofspeed:
I'm hopefully picking up the Pre tonight, and the rebel sim should be through the letterbox by the end of the week - strike willing. In the meantime it's UK o2 PAYG (with data) for activation.
Yours still working Paul? Just noticed you're in Hayling Island - the missus is on the IoW this week, can you give her a wave?
Hahaha, can she see me? I am the tall guy by the tree.I'm hopefully picking up the Pre tonight, and the rebel sim should be through the letterbox by the end of the week - strike willing. In the meantime it's UK o2 PAYG (with data) for activation.
Yours still working Paul? Just noticed you're in Hayling Island - the missus is on the IoW this week, can you give her a wave?
Yes, mine is still working fine. I am manually installing webOS 1.1.3 at the moment so fingers crossed I don't end up regretting it.
O2 Payg with data will not give you any data access on the Pre. The Pre is set to not provide data access with a Payg sim (even the Payg sim with unlimited data). I got stitched up with that but complained as the O2 shop guy said there was nothing he could do as he had not been trained on the Pre and its available options.
They ended up letting me keep the sim and credit on it plus added £25 to my wife's phone bill (she is on O2) to say sorry.
Originally Posted by paulhelyerpre:
So how are we all doing today?
Anyone taken delivery of a shiny new Pre and a Rebel Sim Card?
I am just trying to use webOS Doctor to manually update 1.1.3. I want the glowing notification and I cannot wait to get an auto update...
I just found out that the delivery of my Pre may be delayed. I have my Rebel Sim at the ready, but just need a place to put it!!! So how are we all doing today?
Anyone taken delivery of a shiny new Pre and a Rebel Sim Card?
I am just trying to use webOS Doctor to manually update 1.1.3. I want the glowing notification and I cannot wait to get an auto update...
Keep us posted on the 1.1.3 update. Could be looking for instructions on how to do that myself if it all works out for you.
Originally Posted by paulhelyerpre:
Hahaha, can she see me? I am the tall guy by the tree.
The left hand tree or the right hand one?Hahaha, can she see me? I am the tall guy by the tree.
Originally Posted by paulhelyerpre:
O2 Payg with data will not give you any data access on the Pre.
Bugger, do you reckon it will enable me to set up the profile? I guess not from what you've said.O2 Payg with data will not give you any data access on the Pre.
Originally Posted by allyn274:
I just found out that the delivery of my Pre may be delayed. I have my Rebel Sim at the ready, but just need a place to put it!!!
Keep us posted on the 1.1.3 update. Could be looking for instructions on how to do that myself if it all works out for you.
Boooooo...I just found out that the delivery of my Pre may be delayed. I have my Rebel Sim at the ready, but just need a place to put it!!!
Keep us posted on the 1.1.3 update. Could be looking for instructions on how to do that myself if it all works out for you.
So far it has just been download the file, plug in the Pre and run the file. It has said
Connect your phone directly to your computer with your USB cable.
Do not remove the battery or disconnect your phone during this process.
Do not remove the battery or disconnect your phone during this process.
For the last 20 minutes and it is connected but I have no status bar.
Originally Posted by paulhelyerpre:
Boooooo...
So far it has just been download the file, plug in the Pre and run the file. It has said
For the last 20 minutes and it is connected but I have no status bar.
Uh oh. It's not dead is it??? Boooooo...
So far it has just been download the file, plug in the Pre and run the file. It has said
Connect your phone directly to your computer with your USB cable.
Do not remove the battery or disconnect your phone during this process.
Do not remove the battery or disconnect your phone during this process.
For the last 20 minutes and it is connected but I have no status bar.
Originally Posted by jackofspeed:
The left hand tree or the right hand one?
Bugger, do you reckon it will enable me to set up the profile? I guess not from what you've said.
I am not sure about creating the profile to be honest, I had the luxury of someone else's contract O2 sim at the time.The left hand tree or the right hand one?
Bugger, do you reckon it will enable me to set up the profile? I guess not from what you've said.
There is only one tree on Hayling. It is a fairly small island.
Originally Posted by jackofspeed:
The left hand tree or the right hand one?
Bugger, do you reckon it will enable me to set up the profile? I guess not from what you've said.
The left hand tree or the right hand one?
Bugger, do you reckon it will enable me to set up the profile? I guess not from what you've said.
Originally Posted by allyn274:
Uh oh. It's not dead is it???
I hope not. I have at least another 4 hours at the office so I will see what happens...Uh oh. It's not dead is it???
Originally Posted by paulhelyerpre:
There is only one tree on Hayling. It is a fairly small island.
Oh dear. She must have double vision again.There is only one tree on Hayling. It is a fairly small island.
Maybe I'm being thick here, but how does one get into the Rebel STK menu from within the Pre?
Andrew
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