Carrier/APN settings for 1.13 German and 1.21 US

Der Jens · 10/17/2009, 05:34 PM

As someone asked for this I thought I'd compile a list of the available carriers plus APN settings in both the German 1.13 as well as the US 1.21 as found in the CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 database. I hope someone can use this.
I used a simple SQL JOIN clause to combine and match the results of the two tables com_palm_data_carriernetworksettings_DataConnectionSettings and com_palm_data_carriernetworksettings_CarrierNetworkSettings.

Interestingly the German 1.13 seems to have two more records than the US 1.21. I haven't checked which ones, though. If someone finds out, let us know, please.

XLS files zipped up.

c_man · 10/17/2009, 05:46 PM

Good work! I'm sure this will help the more hands on amongst us.

Intriguingly all the main European networks' details are contained in the German 1.13 CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 database.

This can't mean...

that once the phone is 'activated' using an O2 SIM card, it can then be used TO GO ONLINE with any of the carriers listed in these databases

...or can it?

Der Jens · 10/17/2009, 06:13 PM

I guess, well, I HOPE it does indeed mean that. Which would be the one thing making me buy a Pre (don't have one yet) as I need to be able to use it with a GoPhone card on the AT&T network in December and January in New York.

c_man · 10/17/2009, 06:54 PM

Ditto, I too would get a Pre if that was the case.

We need someone, who knows what the typical/real APN settings for a given network (e.g. Orange UK

) are, to verify whether they appear in the XLS files in post#1.

Unfortunately I do not know what these settings should look like, but hope someone out there does? ..and can do the check...?

pattersson · 10/18/2009, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c_man

Good work! I'm sure this will help the more hands on amongst us.

Intriguingly all the main European networks' details are contained in the German 1.13 CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 database.

This can't mean...

that once the phone is 'activated' using an O2 SIM card, it can then be used TO GO ONLINE with any of the carriers listed in these databases

...or can it?

I "activated" my german pre with a danish sim from TDC. So you don't need a O2 sim. Some carriers are supported from "birth"

Benuk · 10/18/2009, 03:08 AM

Hi the settings for Orange Uk are correct in carriers_113.xls and carriers_121.xls.zip on lines 582, 583 and 584.

The two extra entries in carriers_113.xls are for 'Centennial Wireless' on lines 792 and 793 which are the same as the ones on 514 & 515 in both files without the MMS info included.

freakout · 10/18/2009, 03:37 AM

All the Australian network settings (Optus, Telstra, Vodafone AU, 3) appear to be correct. But correct settings don't appear to matter - for instance, someone has posted elsewhere that Swisscom is in the database and it doesn't work.

Der Jens · 10/18/2009, 03:48 AM

Well, from what I can tell (and again, Im a NOT a developer) the class files in usr/lib/luna/java/CarrierNetworkSettings/com/palm/data/carriernetworksettings seem to be responsible for setting the current voice and data provider and they DO call and pull data from the afoementioned databases.

c_man · 10/18/2009, 06:09 AM

Unfortunately it seems that when a SIM card from another network is put in the Pre, the phone asks for an unlock code

:

Screenshot here: http://willdeasy.com/wp-content/uplo...7102009001.jpg

Details here: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...-data-off.html

and here (3rd bullet point): willdeasy.com

Der Jens · 10/18/2009, 06:11 AM

I wonder what happens if you flash it to the German 1.13 first if that's possible ...

center15 · 10/18/2009, 10:03 PM

hey guys I've added a screen shot of the unlock screen when a Vodafone SIM was inserted into the Pre. willdeasy.com » Blog Archive » Palm Pre GSM O2 Ireland first Impressions

Behi · 10/19/2009, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pattersson

I "activated" my german pre with a danish sim from TDC. So you don't need a O2 sim. Some carriers are supported from "birth"

Where were you when you activity the Pre? In Denmark or Germany?
Because I can´t activate with my Danish Sonofon-sim card.

c_man · 10/19/2009, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Jens

I wonder what happens if you flash it to the German 1.13 first if that's possible ...

I wonder if this will have any implications with future updates, etc. I would hope not. Is anyone going to attempt this? If so, good luck - please post back!

Andreas · 10/19/2009, 08:37 AM

What do you need to enter when you activate the phone?

I will try and see if the german seller can do this for me before shipping it so what info do you need to supply? Just any e-mail adress or does it have to be a gmail adress?

pattersson · 10/19/2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behi

Where were you when you activity the Pre? In Denmark or Germany?
Because I can´t activate with my Danish Sonofon-sim card.

In Denmark. It immediately connected to the data network (a 3G-icon appeared) and I was able to activate it.

krosfyah · 10/19/2009, 03:40 PM

I work for the airlines and am considering flying to Frankfurt in a couple weeks ...if it can be determined that I can put in my US T-mobile SIM in and make it work.

spud101 · 10/19/2009, 04:08 PM

krosfyah: be aware that when you enter your US SIM in the Pre in Germany it will still use one of the german providers (roaming), which are indeed supported by the Pre. It doens't give you a garantuee to work in the US itself.

krosfyah · 10/19/2009, 04:56 PM

Good point. Hopefully we'll see the answer to that question before I go. It would be great if somebody with a German Pre were to visit the US between now and then. I could arrange to meet them somewhere in the states and do a quick check.

col38 · 10/20/2009, 06:00 AM

my german Pre has arrived yesterday and the italian Wind simcard works fine.
unfortunately where i live has Wind no Umts coverage, and the internet connection is very slow (only gsm)

emmbea · 10/21/2009, 11:09 AM

Would it be possible to run an UPDATE statement on the database? I'm experimenting with T-Mobile Hungary, but so far no luck with connecting to the 3G network. This thread suggests that removing hs_null from the user/password field would fix the issue.

10/17/2009, 05:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
c_man Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 392 Likes: 0 Thanks: 46 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Good work! I'm sure this will help the more hands on amongst us. Intriguingly all the main European networks' details are contained in the German 1.13 CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 database. This can't mean... that once the phone is 'activated' using an O2 SIM card, it can then be used TO GO ONLINE with any of the carriers listed in these databases ...or can it?
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10/17/2009, 06:13 PM	Thread Author #3 (permalink)
Der Jens Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 30 Likes: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts	I guess, well, I HOPE it does indeed mean that. Which would be the one thing making me buy a Pre (don't have one yet) as I need to be able to use it with a GoPhone card on the AT&T network in December and January in New York.
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10/17/2009, 06:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
c_man Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 392 Likes: 0 Thanks: 46 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Ditto, I too would get a Pre if that was the case. We need someone, who knows what the typical/real APN settings for a given network (e.g. Orange UK ) are, to verify whether they appear in the XLS files in post#1. Unfortunately I do not know what these settings should look like, but hope someone out there does? ..and can do the check...?
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10/18/2009, 03:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
Benuk Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Thanks: 50 Thanked 54 Times in 33 Posts	Hi the settings for Orange Uk are correct in carriers_113.xls and carriers_121.xls.zip on lines 582, 583 and 584. The two extra entries in carriers_113.xls are for 'Centennial Wireless' on lines 792 and 793 which are the same as the ones on 514 & 515 in both files without the MMS info included.
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10/18/2009, 03:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
freakout Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 60 Likes: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	All the Australian network settings (Optus, Telstra, Vodafone AU, 3) appear to be correct. But correct settings don't appear to matter - for instance, someone has posted elsewhere that Swisscom is in the database and it doesn't work.
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10/18/2009, 03:48 AM	Thread Author #8 (permalink)
Der Jens Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 30 Likes: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Well, from what I can tell (and again, Im a NOT a developer) the class files in usr/lib/luna/java/CarrierNetworkSettings/com/palm/data/carriernetworksettings seem to be responsible for setting the current voice and data provider and they DO call and pull data from the afoementioned databases.
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10/18/2009, 06:11 AM	Thread Author #10 (permalink)
Der Jens Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 30 Likes: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts	I wonder what happens if you flash it to the German 1.13 first if that's possible ...
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10/18/2009, 10:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
center15 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 38 Likes: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	hey guys I've added a screen shot of the unlock screen when a Vodafone SIM was inserted into the Pre. willdeasy.com » Blog Archive » Palm Pre GSM O2 Ireland first Impressions
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10/19/2009, 08:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
Andreas Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SE Posts: 772 Likes: 30 Thanks: 41 Thanked 30 Times in 26 Posts	What do you need to enter when you activate the phone? I will try and see if the german seller can do this for me before shipping it so what info do you need to supply? Just any e-mail adress or does it have to be a gmail adress? __________________ Treo 180 270 600 650 Centro Pre Pr3
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krosfyah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I work for the airlines and am considering flying to Frankfurt in a couple weeks ...if it can be determined that I can put in my US T-mobile SIM in and make it work.
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spud101 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 796 Likes: 62 Thanks: 73 Thanked 95 Times in 53 Posts	krosfyah: be aware that when you enter your US SIM in the Pre in Germany it will still use one of the german providers (roaming), which are indeed supported by the Pre. It doens't give you a garantuee to work in the US itself.
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10/19/2009, 04:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
krosfyah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Good point. Hopefully we'll see the answer to that question before I go. It would be great if somebody with a German Pre were to visit the US between now and then. I could arrange to meet them somewhere in the states and do a quick check.
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10/20/2009, 06:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
col38 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	my german Pre has arrived yesterday and the italian Wind simcard works fine. unfortunately where i live has Wind no Umts coverage, and the internet connection is very slow (only gsm)
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10/21/2009, 11:09 AM	#20 (permalink)
emmbea Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Would it be possible to run an UPDATE statement on the database? I'm experimenting with T-Mobile Hungary, but so far no luck with connecting to the 3G network. This thread suggests that removing hs_null from the user/password field would fix the issue.
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