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  1. Beefy's Avatar
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    Hi.

    I've been reading these forums for a few weeks now and have been waffling for about as long, trying to decide between the Pre and the Hero.

    I love both. Both SenseUI and webOS are beautiful, and both do everything I want. After I got a chance to actually handle the Pre, take some pictures, browse the web, send some texts and learn some of the gestures, I became even more conflicted.

    I'd thought for a while given all the hardware complaints about the Pre that I'd heard, and the fact that the Hero is technically HTC's "Android 2.0" and the Pre is "webOS 1.0", it'd be an easy decision for me.

    But after I held the Pre, no longer. God, I loved it. It was that awesome, just from screwing around on a demo phone for 30 minutes. When I walked in to demo the thing, I thought the wallpaper/background on the phone was a fake screen. When I clicked the launcher and the first cards smoothly appeared on my screen, I was blown away. I did notice a little lag when opening an email application, but nothing gamebreaking.

    I know this is kind of post should really go in the cross-platform chat, but I'm having trouble deciding as to whether or not I can afford to wait another 3 weeks for the release of the Hero.

    So help me decide, Precentral. What do you love most about your Pre? What do you like the least? What advice would you give someone so close to purchasing one? Is a Touchstone a necessity?

    I'm so, so close to shelling out $270 for this thing - $150 for the phone, 70 for the Touchstone, 30 for an invisible shield, and 25 for a case.
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    you don't really need the touchstone....and even an invisible sheild.

    There is no phone out there which handles multitasking as brilliant as the Pre today. There are also subtle things about the Pre which I just love more. I'll give you one good example. I just downloaded Accu radio and was playing it through my car radio fm receiver. Now I also had a game going at the same time. On top of the gesture area there's a notification area that when clicked, you have the ability to forward the song, stop the song, also get a title of whats playing, etc... Basically it was a really helpful way of me not needing to minimize my game in order to mess with a 3rd party media player. Things like that just make my life easier. I freaken love this phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PreBot View Post
    you don't really need the touchstone....and even an invisible sheild.

    There is no phone out there which handles multitasking as brilliant as the Pre today. There are also subtle things about the Pre which I just love more. I'll give you one good example. I just downloaded Accu radio and was playing it through my car radio fm receiver. Now I also had a game going at the same time. On top of the gesture area there's a notification area that when clicked, you have the ability to forward the song, stop the song, also get a title of whats playing, etc... Basically it was a really helpful way of me not needing to minimize my game in order to mess with a 3rd party media player. Things like that just make my life easier. I freaken love this phone.
    I don't need an invisible shield? Honestly, for a phone that will cost me more than $1200 over the life of the contract, I'll be damned if I'm not going to protect it.

    Same thing for the Hero. There is no reason not to get a case and screen protector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I don't need an invisible shield? Honestly, for a phone that will cost me more than $1200 over the life of the contract, I'll be damned if I'm not going to protect it.

    Same thing for the Hero. There is no reason not to get a case and screen protector.


    Well yeah it all depends on how well you do with phones. A TON of people complain about scratches yet my Pre has no screen protector and the screen is just as beautiful and scratch free as the first day I got it. In either case the Hero and Palm Pre was a tough choice for me until I found out that the Hero processor would have been good....a year ago. The processor leaves a lot to be desired so I will be sticking to the Pre. When an Android phone comes out on Sprint with a processor at least on par or surpassing the Pre then I am on it. The processor on the Pre leaves a lot of room for it to be improved. It's under-clocked to 500 and if I am not mistaken it can be overclocked to like 700-800.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayix312 View Post
    Well yeah it all depends on how well you do with phones. A TON of people complain about scratches yet my Pre has no screen protector and the screen is just as beautiful and scratch free as the first day I got it.
    Can't see any reason not to protect your phone.... I added the shield day after buying phone and have not noticed any loss of sensitivity or usability.... and don't have to worry where I set it down or how I clean the screen..... Love the Pre..... Never thought I would have switched from WM but can not imagine going back.....
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    I agonized over whether to switch providers b/c I've had lots of issues with Sprint over the years & finally my contract was up. Then here comes Sprint with the Pre... it had the touchscreen & a full key pad! (so if your touchscreen goes out for whatever reason you'll still have a live phone; unlike the iphone). The small key pad is decieving, it is more user friendly than it appears, at first it looks as though your finger tips will overpower it but is not the case. It's intuitely raised rubber nubs fly with about 90% accuracy.

    The device is sleek, tight, crystal clear color intensive. Don't get me wrong I am not a fan of Sprint but they've done good with this one; fairly all inclusive unless of course you want more bells & whistles for add't fees. I'm fairly satisfied with the software that comes with the pkg. at no extra charges. Calander & alarms & notifications 4 stars, multitasking off the charts!!!

    You do not need the touchstone (add it at a later time), you can get a skin from skinit.com for $15.00, and buy a generic $5 or $10.00 case (I made the mistake to buy the one they reccommended for $40.00 & its not neccessary) In fact, it comes with a head set & suede pouch) also included is the data cable for syncing & downloading. Love the apps you'll never need to pay for 411 again with this phone & you'll never get lost unless you want to.

    I hate....the low "ringer volume" (but you can customize your own from a free download).... I hate being forced to sync via gmail; but I've managed to get Yahoo services direct .... I hate not being able to record video, fwd txt messages from one party to another without any mechanism to copy & paste a recieved message; so you have to retype an entire message if you need to fwd something. Unless you where the originator in which case you have to fwd "all" at same time. (eg)"Merry Christimas" as they roll in one by one you must retype each one- no fwding.

    But there's hope they are listening & vow to improve with updates, still, I'm glad I did it & my rates are $20.00 less then the previous 5 years b/c of the everything data plan. I say it gives iphones a real run for the money & it's the best bang for the buck with technology...that's my opinion.
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    Everyone says the Hero is slower as far as hardware goes, outdated chipset, etc.

    I hear that, and then I watch Youtube videos of the 1.5 patched HTC Heros and screens gliding by like they were on Teflon. And this is WHILE Android is running weather widgets, clocks, "scenes", etc. One thing that always strikes me on the Pre is that the home screen is always so empty without the ability to add something. A lack of widgets is a kinda disappointing. The screens are beautiful, but it really seems empty sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    The screens are beautiful, but it really seems empty sometimes.
    Which is one of the things I love about it. I like being able to see my wallpapers and keep things simple and sleek.

    To each his own.
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    The two biggest gripes for me remain the Pre's slider mechanism and the core PIM apps. Everything else about the Pre is amazing. However, if I were you, I'd be patient a little longer until the Hero is available so that you can compare it directly. (I'd suggest waiting even longer until the Pixi is out.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I don't need an invisible shield? Honestly, for a phone that will cost me more than $1200 over the life of the contract, I'll be damned if I'm not going to protect it.

    Same thing for the Hero. There is no reason not to get a case and screen protector.
    You don't need it because you'll likely have to exchange it multiple times anyways.
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    There are some issues but there always are with new tech. Right. But the pre rocks and it will spoil you for ever. you will never be able to go to another phone that can't compare to it . Even though there are some hardware flaws , they all seems to stick with it and just get it replaced, now that my friend says something about the pre!!!! Just imo
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    Listen to Cardfan, my friend. Unless you are ok with swapping out Pre phones multiple times in order to get a relatively physically flawless device, I would wait to see what hardware revisions Palm makes in the next 6-12 months.

    This will also give them time to finish the OS, get Flash, get video recording and get some WebGL happening so that they can get competitive with the "outdated" Hero.

    If that doesn't matter, get the Pre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardfan View Post
    You don't need it because you'll likely have to exchange it multiple times anyways.
    +1!

    I havent swapped mine out yet, but my wife exchanged hers already. I do have a lot of scratches since I just pocket mine (a touted feature, yet my wife says it looks like cat scratched my Pre) but if/when I need to exchange my Pre, I will get a screen protector.

    Touchstone is a GREAT feature! (notice that I didnt say necessary) The ease of charging is well worth the price. But save money and buy it from the Precentral.net store.

    With the next upgrade, there will be less gripes about the Pre. I cannot speak for Android, but the potential is awesome for webOS. Now, if only they would get this onto more US networks so more developers would take notice.
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    Get the phone, get an extra battery, get the Invisible Sheild, get a case....get the TEP insurance


    DONE
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMIC50 View Post
    +1!
    Touchstone is a GREAT feature! (notice that I didnt say necessary) The ease of charging is well worth the price. But save money and buy it from the Precentral.net store.
    Is it possible to turn off the Pre's display while using the Touchstone yet? Don't need the phone lighting up my bedroom while trying to sleep at night!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikah912 View Post
    Listen to Cardfan, my friend. Unless you are ok with swapping out Pre phones multiple times in order to get a relatively physically flawless device, I would wait to see what hardware revisions Palm makes in the next 6-12 months.

    This will also give them time to finish the OS, get Flash, get video recording and get some WebGL happening so that they can get competitive with the "outdated" Hero.

    If that doesn't matter, get the Pre.
    Even 6+ months after initial release, there are still that many problems with the Pre hardware that I would likely require multiple replacement units?

    That's pretty terrible. I was looking at the satisfaction poll and it seemed like there was about a 30% replace/defect rate for the phone, which seems atrociously high for a device that a company basically pinned their entire future on.

    There's so many pluses that it makes me want to ignore the negatives of the Pre, but I can't deny that they are there:

    - Missing soft keyboard, no soft keyboard in landscape mode (I don't understand, honestly, how this could be something they let slide by in the initial OS release)
    - No video recording
    - No light adjustment on camera
    - No text forwarding
    - "Oreo" slider problems
    - Screen cracks/light leaks
    - Slow-rolling apps
    - Inconsistent/nonexistent battery life

    Argh.
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    Keep in mind that people typically tend to post if they're ticked or have problems. Rarely do you see someone bother to log on simply to extol an item's virtues.
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    I intentionally didn't skin mine even though I wanted phantomskinz because I have had so many replacements. Great phone but hardware lags behind. The hero will be a solid phone because of the candy bar style. I would say just wait because the hero is rumored to be released a little early with best buy. I got this from sprintusers.com. I wish I could have a pre that looked like the pixie but had the same exact options as the pre. That would be perfect in my eyes.

    The pixie lacks the better camera, screen and lack of wifi, so that kills it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjamie View Post
    Is it possible to turn off the Pre's display while using the Touchstone yet? Don't need the phone lighting up my bedroom while trying to sleep at night!
    There is an App (Homebrew) that does this (Brightness Unlinked).

    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Even 6+ months after initial release, there are still that many problems with the Pre hardware that I would likely require multiple replacement units?

    That's pretty terrible. I was looking at the satisfaction poll and it seemed like there was about a 30% replace/defect rate for the phone, which seems atrociously high for a device that a company basically pinned their entire future on.

    There's so many pluses that it makes me want to ignore the negatives of the Pre, but I can't deny that they are there:

    - Missing soft keyboard, no soft keyboard in landscape mode (I don't understand, honestly, how this could be something they let slide by in the initial OS release)
    - No video recording
    - No light adjustment on camera
    - No text forwarding
    - "Oreo" slider problems
    - Screen cracks/light leaks
    - Slow-rolling apps
    - Inconsistent/nonexistent battery life

    Argh.
    I can understand how you see the ommision of various features as a detriment, but if you consider the way these devices are introduced nowadays, then you can see that companies will add functionality down the road.

    As far as the hardware goes, are you criticizing the Andriod hardware (I know there are multiple models now)? Do you know what the replacement rate is for those models? How about the iPhone? I dont know what the numbers are, but no device is devoid of deviations in build quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post

    There's so many pluses that it makes me want to ignore the negatives of the Pre, but I can't deny that they are there:

    - Missing soft keyboard, no soft keyboard in landscape mode (I don't understand, honestly, how this could be something they let slide by in the initial OS release)
    - No video recording
    - No light adjustment on camera
    - No text forwarding
    - "Oreo" slider problems
    - Screen cracks/light leaks
    - Slow-rolling apps
    - Inconsistent/nonexistent battery life

    Argh.

    Well as to all this I must say most people complain just ot be heard. I have had my Pre for over 3 months now and it works FINE...no problems.
    And to address your issues:


    - Missing soft keyboard - Mine has a soft keyboard, use WebOS QI and install the tweak - its easy and works perfectly.
    - No text forwarding - Again WebOS QI Tweak, works flawlessly, and everyone at PreCentral Forums have made it so almost a baby can do it.
    - Slow-rolling apps - around 65 in app catalog, over 215 in homebrew, plus extra tweaks....hmm...what else you need?!?
    - Inconsistent/nonexistent battery life - lasts a full day...plug it in at night, most smartphones with a touchscreen wont last much longer.
    - Hardware Quality Issues - same as other phones, most are minor OCD issues and for the most part nothing is wrong, PLUS Sprint and Palm are addressing these issues as they arise and I havent seen anyone yet who wasn't taken care of IF these problem arose.

    IN SHORT BUY A PRE....best damn phone out there
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